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nashville_brook
(20,958 posts)TDale313
(7,820 posts)DamnYankeeInHouston
(1,365 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)coverage. She hadn't been on the air for 6 weeks, so she quit.
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Rhiannon12866
(206,154 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)Rebkeh
(2,450 posts)I think it's a cynical/skeptic thing though. Not skeptical of the solution, just that not enough people will show up and push their Senators and representatives.
'08 cured me of that, I didn't think America would show up for a black president but they did. Twice!
Nyan
(1,192 posts)FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)Thank you for the direct poke into DWS' eye.
Mufaddal
(1,021 posts)Gabbard has ties to Modi's fascist BJP and is a total hawk on Palestine.
http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/curious-islamophobic-politics-dem-congressmember-tulsi-gabbard
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)She's giving up the vice-chair to support Bernie based on his platform.
That said, the optics look great after a loss: DNC Vice-Chair Resigns Over DNC's Thumb-Scaling for Hillary.
(BTW, my son is half Palestinian. We should start pressuring her to move from that position. Many automatically take Israel's side without knowing much about what really is going on there. We can hope that's why she took that position and will re-think it).
Mufaddal
(1,021 posts)The sad truth is that she's not the first person who is nominally progressive on many things, but then aligns with violent neo-fascist extremists like the BJP, whose officials openly admire Hitler, on other areas. The bottom line--to me, at least--is that a friend of Modi and the BJP has no right to the "progressive" label, period. Anyone willing to smile and pose for a photo with BJP members while wearing their sash--this is the equivalent of snapping pics with Klansmen.
Now, she's been treated poorly by the DNC, and that's a separate issue, but it certainly doesn't forgive her BJP support. If she publicly disavowed her support for the BJP and their violent Hindu nationalism and supremacist rhetoric, then I'd be more comfortable even in spite of her sad view on Palestine.
As for the Palestine issue, this is a failing of Warren as well. She is a total hawk on this subject (or a "PEP," as it's known--Progressive Except on Palestine).
erlewyne
(1,115 posts)Things have a way of opening rays of light.
I have recently discovered BERNIE SANDERS and I am damned near
his age.
jillan
(39,451 posts)be making policy decisions for Bernie.
About Palestine, Bernie is not going to let her influence his long held beliefs that we need a 2 state solution & both countries are responsible for the mess they created.
Mufaddal
(1,021 posts)and I'm all for her giving the DNC its comeuppance in public. But honestly, her support for the BJP is actually much more disturbing than her views on Palestine--which, like Warren's, are at least typical, in spite of being incredibly disappointing. I think most Americans are simply unfamiliar with the BJP and that's why this hasn't been an issue already.
jillan
(39,451 posts)He has proven to be steadfast in his beliefs throughout the decades.
Hopefully she will just be there to support him, and not her own views.
Mufaddal
(1,021 posts)because they understand that nobody in the US (outside of desi communities) know who the BJP are, or anything at all about Modi.
The sad thing is, at the rally for Bernie in San Jose yesterday, I saw a big Sikh contingent. Probably a lot of the same Sikhs who organized a big anti-Modi rally when he was visiting here in Silicon Valley. I'm guessing those people are waking up today to the news about Gabbard will not be thrilled, and it may hurt his support in Muslim communities as well if they find out about her views on, and relationship with, the BJP and Modi.
Of course, the votes of the Muslim community don't count for much, for better or worse, and CAIR did a poll indicating that Hillary has something like a 30% lead among Muslim voters over Bernie (which is baffling and sad, especially since I've never met a Muslim who supports Hillary, but met plenty who like Bernie).
Still, if the Clinton campaign was not its own worst enemy, the first thing they would be doing now is getting ad packages together with quotes from Modi and BJP politicians, including pictures of Hindutva textbooks, praising Hitler and drawing connections between Modi and the anti-Muslim rioting in Gujarat in 2002 that left 800 Muslims slaughtered by his Hindu nationalists.
jillan
(39,451 posts)this plays out.
Mufaddal
(1,021 posts)So that's probably another reason for them to leave it. I think they don't want to look like sore winners right now, coming out of SC. I wouldn't worry too much about it. It upsets me a lot on principle however.
TBF
(32,102 posts)I don't see that changing anytime soon.
Mufaddal
(1,021 posts)The two state solution remains the international consensus; his view on that is not a problem at all. Apartheid is the issue. And yeah, he lived there, and then later he publicly advocated cutting off arms sales. He used to be publicly on the right side of this, and his brother, Larry, still is. I don't have a lot of questions, personally, about whether Bernie will introduce better policy when it comes to Israel-Palestine. I fully expect him to, and moreover I expect him to be much more receptive to the anti-apartheid movement than Hillary, who goes out of her way time and again to demonstrate that she is a total hawk on Israel/Palestine.
Anyway, the issue here is not just Gabbard's position on Palestine, which is at least the standard (albeit morally queasy) position. Like Warren, she's a PEP. It's her support for a fascistic, violent Hindu supremacist movement in India that is responsible for the deaths of hundreds if not thousands of people in the Gujarat riots, and which actively promotes Hitler as a great guy--and that she takes their money, and also happens to vote for Modi's interests.
TBF
(32,102 posts)I will need to read up on this. I'm ashamed to say I don't know much about India. If she does support such an effort she certainly isn't my choice for VP or anything. Is there a good source you recommend on this? Thank you in advance.
Mufaddal
(1,021 posts)and I can't honestly blame them; they have no real reason to know anything about Indian politics. It's not like I was paying attention myself until Modi came along.
In general, Loonwatch (an Islamophobia tracking site) had a superb series about the rise of Modi:
http://www.loonwatch.com/2014/04/narendra-modi-and-the-rise-of-indias-neo-fascist-far-right-the-facts/
http://www.loonwatch.com/2014/04/nazism-and-narendra-modi-the-ideological-influence-on-indias-next-prime-minister/
http://www.loonwatch.com/2014/06/triumph-of-the-will-narendra-modi-the-rss-and-the-big-lie-propaganda-technique/
Most of those articles contain links to a number of major papers on the subject of the fascist origins and outlook of the BJP & RSS (the latter being the paramilitary of the former), and the threat of Modi rule.
In the context of Gabbard:
http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/curious-islamophobic-politics-dem-congressmember-tulsi-gabbard
Geronimoe
(1,539 posts)thrown at her.
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in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)during this election.
Good for her!
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Gene Debs
(582 posts)simply make my endorsement of Sanders and then let them push me out. I think the publicity would have been better.
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