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Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:22 AM

Bernie can win the nomination with 41% of the pledged delegates

There are 4051 pledged delegates and 713 super-delegates: total = 4764.

(4764/2) + 1 = 2383 to win the nomination.

Suppose Bernie wins 1670 (approximately 41%) of the 4051 pledged delegates.
That means that Clinton will win 2381 pledged delegates; not enough to clinch the nomination.

That leaves Bernie (and us) 7 weeks before the convention to convince the super delegates that HRC can't win the GE. I think this may be Bernie's best chance.

The important thing to remember is: Even if Bernie "loses" every primary, he can still win enough delegates to put up a fight at the convention. So don't give up.

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Reply Bernie can win the nomination with 41% of the pledged delegates (Original post)
jg10003 Mar 2016 OP
revbones Mar 2016 #1
k8conant Mar 2016 #3
Glamrock Mar 2016 #2
k8conant Mar 2016 #4
Glamrock Mar 2016 #7
jg10003 Mar 2016 #9
Glamrock Mar 2016 #12
Politicalboi Mar 2016 #5
99th_Monkey Mar 2016 #6
Glamrock Mar 2016 #8
k8conant Mar 2016 #10
99th_Monkey Mar 2016 #11

Response to jg10003 (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:24 AM

1. Time would possibly be on Bernie's side for this type of strategy

 

I doubt he would push a floor fight, but prolonging the primary is in the party's best interest given the possibility of Clinton's email woes coming to fruition.

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Response to revbones (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:27 AM

3. Bernie's staying in for the long run...

and that may be where Hillary falls down (as in, has to drop out).

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Response to jg10003 (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:27 AM

2. Fuck that!

If Hillary pulls that shit, I can't vote for her. Period. Same goes for Bernie. I'm shocked this is even being floated here.

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Response to Glamrock (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:30 AM

4. I disagree with the OP that we should spend our time doing that...

but I still think we stay in the fray until the convention.

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Response to k8conant (Reply #4)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:35 AM

7. Absolutely.

If the voters choose Hillary, they've spoken. I'm not down with ignoring the will of the peeps. But yeah, I do want him to stay in. He's got my vote, and I've gotten a bunch of others and am working on more.

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Response to Glamrock (Reply #7)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:44 AM

9. The DNC created every rule with the goal of giving HRC an advantage

If we can use those same rules to our advantage then I think we should.

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Response to jg10003 (Reply #9)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:52 AM

12. Cool man

But I can't get behind that. If she wins the most delegates, the people have spoken. I don't feel you ignore that for any reason. Like I said earlier, if Bernie were to win the most delegates and Hillary got the nom due to the supers, would you vote for her? I wouldn't. Why? Because the Democratic party would be ignoring the people. My candidate doing the same ain't cool with me. I have a very strong aversion to hypocrisy.

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Response to Glamrock (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:33 AM

5. Hillary has so many land mines coming up

 

We need Bernie to stay in. It's not that he's a sore loser, it's for us if he were to stay in.

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Response to Glamrock (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:34 AM

6. Those SUPER delegates are there, and will count for either Bernie or Hillary

 

nothing will change that. Hillary's already got 95% (estimate) of these pledged delegates
in her hip pocket. Why not level the playing field by getting a bunch of SUPERS for Bernie?

I see no reason to say "fuck that" to an all-out effort to win the super-delegates over (or just
enough of them) to get Bernie as our nominee..

I don't understand your aversion to this ... help me out.


ON EDIT: I meant SUPER-delegates in my post, not 'pledged' delegates.

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #6)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:38 AM

8. See post 7

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #6)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:44 AM

10. I think you're calling superdelegates "pledged delegates" here...

which they are NOT.

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Response to k8conant (Reply #10)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:50 AM

11. You're absolutely correct. thank you.

 

I'll correct it right away. thanks again.

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