~@*The Official Miami Florida Debate Bernie Sander Group Thread! PART 2*@~

[retrowire]

Here it is THE SEQUEL.

We've got some people with bandwidth issues so let's carry on in here folks! Here's your video!

Huddle together!

[chknltl]

1. Thank You nt

[retrowire]

2. You're welcome! nt

[SamKnause]

3. Thank you.

[RKP5637]

4. Thanks!!!

[SamKnause]

5. She knows what all Americans need.

Really ???

[nc4bo]

8. Oh Hillary knows best....check her donors list! nt

[retrowire]

9. Empty ass words...

We need to create jobs, and we will.

BUT WE'LL ALSO PUT FORTH TRADE AGREEMENTS THAT GO AGAINST THAT.

LMAO

[RoccoR5955]

6. Bernie is proud of his record

as am I!

[SamKnause]

12. Me too.

[mak3cats]

7. Verbal vomit; that's all I think right now... (eom)

[retrowire]

10. She's proving what an establishment politician is.

We need to create jobs, and we will.

BUT WE'LL ALSO PUT FORTH TRADE AGREEMENTS THAT GO AGAINST THAT.

LMAO

The moderator said, everything you said was a generic statement and doesn't address latinos.

And she's continuing with the generic answer. Christ.

[SamKnause]

11. Excellent description.

[mak3cats]

13. I'm pretty pleased with these moderators... (eom)

[retrowire]

14. Yeah, I feel like they're the best ones yet. nt

[bkkyosemite]

15. Bernie talking unemployment

[RKP5637]

16. Damn snappy remark. Time is Up! Let Bernie Talk like Hillary does!!!

[SamKnause]

17. Tell it like it is Bernie !!!

[retrowire]

18. Man the moderators really didn't wanna let Bernie finish?!

WTF, Hillary goes on for fucking ever and he gets maybe 3 sentences in and "time is up."

I was cool with the moderators but then, that! what the fuck.

[RKP5637]

21. That was too damn snappy. He just started and got told Time is Up! F that!!!

[retrowire]

22. seroiusly! nt

[Cassiopeia]

28. I was screaming at Bernie

He can't waste time with applause for "YUGE"

This is a debate, not a speech.

[cyberpj]

19. Someone has clearly told her to smile when Sanders is talking about her problems and lies. It looks

ridiculous. As if she thinks it's funny.

(Still catching up on Tivo viewing here... I'll be with you soon, lol)

[Cassiopeia]

35. It looks defensive

Like she's waiting for a brick to hit her in the face.

[TBF]

20. Labor for Bernie

Labor for Bernie ‏@LaborForBernie 1m1 minute ago
"We should combat climate change" says @HillaryClinton, but she thinks fracking is okay... SMH #univisiondebate

[RKP5637]

27. They want to frack in Florida. That should go well with that fragile eco-structure in the

Everglades. Yet another WTF.

[retrowire]

33. NO! The everglades are beautiful!!!! nt

[RKP5637]

40. There's a fight going on. Heard about it recently. It's insanity at its best!

[TBF]

23. Thom Hartmann tweets

Teachers For Bernie Retweeted
Thom Hartmann ‏@Thom_Hartmann 25m25 minutes ago
Bernie Sanders Gets Immigration Policy Right http://nyti.ms/1T6owsW . NY Times editorial board calls Sanders the gold standard.

[retrowire]

24. They're trying to knock Bernie's free tuition thing by

"WOULD YOU LET THE RICH GO TO COLLEGE FOR FREE!?!?!?"

Why not? They'd be paying for everyone elses.

[RKP5637]

32. Yep, it would be fair.

[retrowire]

37. See, everybody thinks we're villainizing the rich.

No, we just want them to pay their share. That's all.

[Cleita]

36. +1000

Little secret though. When we had free college in California many of them couldn't meet the requirements to be accepted into the state college and university system,

[cyberpj]

44. And that's usually a public school problem due to 'no child left behind' mandatory testing.

So yes, that needs fixing as well.

[Cleita]

68. Back when we had free college in California we didn't have that NCLB program.

So you could get a decent education in public school. Most of the rich kids went to private school. But much of your eligibility rested on how well you did in your SATs.

[cyberpj]

39. She's a pro at taking half of things and disregarding the rest to make her point.

"I don't want Trumps kids or my kids or anyone who can afford it to get free college"

She knows they'd be paying for it with more taxes.

And besides, the kinds of colleges those kids go to wouldn't be in the "free college" network, I'm sure.

It doesn't mean Yale, Harvard and others would be free tuition colleges.

Sometime I just want to smack her.

[Cassiopeia]

42. I've been saying this for months

Sure, they have every right to do so if they choose. Just like they have every right to public education K-12 now.

[Cleita]

25. She spends most of her time talking to Latinos?

Who? the domestic help? She has little understanding of their problems.

[retrowire]

26. DAMN nt

[SamKnause]

29. Good one !!!

[TBF]

34. I'm assuming Latino bankers. nt

[d_legendary1]

59. Carlos Slim comes to mind

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-09-03/hillary-clinton-follows-christie-to-mexico-for-carlos-slim-event

"Billionaire Carlos Slim’s contribution to the Clinton Foundation is paying off."

And that's just the first line.

[TBF]

30. On free college -

Bernie Sanders ‏@BernieSanders 23s24 seconds ago
Why does @HillaryClinton think it's okay for Trump's kids to go to elementary, middle, and high schools for free, but not colleges?

[cyberpj]

57. Truth is, those kids DON'T go to free elementary, middle and high schools; they go to private school

while the public school system has degraded.

Those particular kids would also be going to expensive private colleges.

[SamKnause]

31. FUCK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Get her Bernie !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MissDeeds]

45. Kick her butt with the truth, Bernie

Sweet mother of god I loathe her!

[SamKnause]

52. Me too.

[SamKnause]

38. Here comes more lies from the master.

[TBF]

41. #DangerousBernie

Twitter loves it:

Texas Women Retweeted
Stephanie Wimbish ‏@SKWimbish 9m9 minutes ago
"I am dangerous for Wall Street." Hell yes, @BernieSanders. #DemDebate #DebateWithBernie #FeelTheBern #NotMeUS
2 retweets 3 likes

[SoapBox]

43. Point! Clinton/Trump kids can attend free public school...

So they would be free to attend a PUBLIC college...but of course, they would go to an expensive school.

I thought that was such a great point.

[retrowire]

58. It really was. nt

[RKP5637]

46. Hillary looks soooo republican with her goofy smiles. n/t

[SamKnause]

47. Man he really rattled her.

If looks could kill.

[Babel_17]

98. Thanks for pointing that out, saved me the trouble :)

Little things like that keep Sanders supporters fed, and the more observant undecideds will pick up on it.

The press loves those moments because it helps them frame a narrative. Secretary Clinton is respected for her intellect, but her negatives are very, very, high for a reason.

[TBF]

48. Bill McKibbon tweets

Believe In Bernie Retweeted
Bill McKibben ‏@billmckibben 7m7 minutes ago
What he said: "I don't take money from the fossil fuel industry, because they are destroying the planet" @BernieSanders #DemDebate

[Cassiopeia]

49. Bernie needs to stand up for Obamacare

It will remain IN PLACE as is until it can be replaced with a better program.

We don't lose anything, we fight for more!

[Blus4u]

50. Best debate evvvvahhhhh

Bernie is cutting to the point with concise answers.

[think]

53. He's nailing the issues tonight! Bamm!

[chknltl]

55. plus 1!!! nuff said

[winter is coming]

63. I wonder whether the adviser who convinced HRC to agree to more debates (so she

get one in before NH) has been fired yet.

[TBF]

51. Regarding whether the banks have paid back the taxpayers:

Guerrilla Socialists ‏@GuerrillaDems 25s25 seconds ago
Hillary just lied to the American people. We were not completely paid back: http://bit.ly/1OHGJtT
#univisiondebate #hispandering #Latinos

[napi21]

54. If she thinks we're anywhere even near universal HC, she's insane!

Universal HC doesn't cost $1,000 a month like many now have to pay!

[leftcoastmountains]

56. Good question about climate change!

[TBF]

60. Do Emails matter?

GrassrootsForSanders Retweeted
Elizabeth Bruenig ‏@ebruenig 1h1 hour ago

mod: Do Hillary's emails matter or not
Bernie: what matters is my econ platform. that is what matters. thank you

[RKP5637]

61. Yea!!! We need a revolution!!! There's gonna be a revolution. Go Bernie!!!!!! Millions support you

for a Political Revolution!

[TBF]

62. MM: Bernie's on Fire!

Michael Moore ‏@MMFlint 34s35 seconds ago
Bernie is on fire!

[MissDeeds]

64. This is a debate between the most ethical politician

of my lifetime and the least ethical politician of my lifetime.

I'll be sending money to Bernie tonight and signing up to volunteer on the ground for Bernie in Missouri.

[malletgirl02]

75. Bernie Sanders

is incorruptible!

[840high]

180. +10

[SoapBox]

65. And she won't shut up!

She's talking over Bernie and she's talking over the crowd.

[TBF]

66. Sorry guys gotta go - we share computers in this house

will catch up tomorrow.

[elehhhhna]

95. That's what hrhs work emails said!-1!

[TBF]

185. Right?

[SamKnause]

67. She just told another BIG LIE.

You can tell from Bernie's facial expression.

[retrowire]

69. Hillary returned the "Excuse me"

I hope that she and her supporters feel better now and everyone can shut up about it. lol

[Cassiopeia]

78. Returned when she was already well over her time

and the moderators were trying to direct to Sanders.

This one was different by many magnitudes.

[RKP5637]

70. Hillary's losing it!!!

[Cassiopeia]

71. Hillary's excuse me moment

Wow. She won't be called on it in the national MSM, but fucking wow.

[SamKnause]

72. He just called out the Fracking Queen.

Loud applause !!!!!!!

[retrowire]

74. And the deadliest BOO's we've heard all night. nt

[Cassiopeia]

87. They want to frack in the Everglades here

it's being sold as a way to cut our power bills.

However, we can't use solar here in the sunshine state. TPTB created laws against solar plants to save on our power bills because 'wait for it' There's not enough sun. Yes SUN, in the sunshine state. We don't have enough.

[retrowire]

89. My fucking mind is blown. nt

[Cassiopeia]

92. Seriously.

I want them to either plan solar plants or change all those pretty signs at the border that welcome us to The SUNSHINE State.

It's fucking insane.

[SamKnause]

91. Sickening.

Bernie is our only hope.

[Blus4u]

73. Babbling on like a bobble head

About rising tides in Florida and Bernie calls her ot on fracking

[SamKnause]

76. This is the best debate ever.

Hillary is the biggest liar on this planet.

[retrowire]

79. The moderators are deadly.

Both Hillary and Bernie are at their most aggressive.

[SamKnause]

84. Both are aggressive.

One is lying.

One is not.

[RoccoR5955]

77. These moderators are the best

Not holding back punches.

[d_legendary1]

85. No surprise there

If Ramos appeared to favor Clinton the latins would definitely know about it. They're not easily fooled.

[SoapBox]

88. I wondered how Ramos would be, as his daughter works for Camp Weathervane.

http://fusion.net/story/153677/a-note-from-jorge-ramos/

[SamKnause]

94. He announced that at the beginning of the debate.

[RoccoR5955]

80. Cinton will not answer whether or not she will appoint a banker.

She simply changes the topic, and NEVER answers the question!

[bkkyosemite]

81. She is a &$$$&#*%&#&$(&*(#

[retrowire]

82. Ahh the, "Bernie hates Obama" card.

Raise your hand if you give a shit if anyone critiques a president. ANY president.

[nc4bo]

83. They try to shut him up but he gets his messages out anyway! Go Bernie! Nt

[retrowire]

86. DAMN, they did NOT want to let him continue on about the damage the 90's did to our economy.

They really didn't want him talking about the Clinton machines legacy!

[SamKnause]

90. Let Bernie finish his rebuttal after she lies for minutes on end !!!!!!!!!!!!

[Blus4u]

96. He cuts quick, makes the point and gets out

She babbles for ten minutes

[Impedimentus]

93. Lower the Cone of Silence on Clinton, She Constantly Abuses Her Time

[SamKnause]

97. Clinton's don't follow the rules.

[cyberpj]

124. "I'm not a natural politician" LOL. nt

[djordan]

99. She talks a LOOOOT...does she not know

that the more people hear her the more they are turned off

[Baobab]

100. Documents on Financial Regulation Deregulation and Reregulation - Preventing another 2008

http://www.consumersinternational.org/media/1402116/tacd-finance-resolution-on-trade-rules-and-financial-regulation-green.pdf

http://citizen.typepad.com/eyesontrade/2011/05/new-memo-on-wto-conflict-with-measures-to-fight-too-big-to-fail-banks.html

https://www.citizen.org/documents/memo-gats-conflict-with-bank-size-limits-may-10-2011.pdf

https://www.citizen.org/documents/FinanceReregulationFactSheetFINAL.pdf

http://www.democracynow.org/2014/6/20/a_plan_only_banksters_will_love

https://www.citizen.org/documents/FinanceReregulationFactSheetFINAL.pdf

[Blus4u]

104. Hang around,

I'll be right back, lol

[RKP5637]

101. Well F, they cut him off again.

[marlakay]

102. I love how he stays with what he believes

No matter the state, like cuba.

[Cassiopeia]

103. Not a moment of calculation, Bernie answers the video immediately

Nothing to hide from, nothing to deflect, nothing to spin.

[leftcoastmountains]

105. Fearless!

[SamKnause]

106. Indeed he is.

[retrowire]

107. Anybody think the Cuban question was simply to try and paint Bernie as a

Communism apologist?

I sincerely, see NO other purpose to the question.

He answered it very well and avoided any marks but... did anyone else see the point?

[SamKnause]

110. Yep, but it is not going to work.

[Blus4u]

138. he sounded to me like he was for the people in that clip

and he's still saying the same thing. He did good. If they had thrown in the honeymoon, maybe a gotcha

[Fawke Em]

108. This line! This!!!

[malletgirl02]

109. No question about Honduras?nt.

[retrowire]

111. Oh fuck, Hillary is jumping on the "Bernie is a communist" bandwagon.

Please let Bernie answer this shit.

[SamKnause]

113. He did.

He didn't hesitate after they showed the clip.

[retrowire]

120. He didn't answer what Hillary added to it.

Whatever that movement was? Did he really praise that?

[SamKnause]

125. They won't give him time to answer.

He pointed out several times that the U.S. has caused

many of the problems in Latin America.

He mentioned the Monroe Doctrine.

[retrowire]

133. That's true, but I want to know what really happened.

Because if he did support it, then we've got another anti bernie meme to fight against.

[SamKnause]

146. That's to be expected.

[retrowire]

149. Well we supporters need counter info.

I wanna see a transcript soon so I can see what movement she was referring to.

[hopemountain]

181. what i got from is response, retrowire,

is he believes we don't have any business telling other countries how to govern themselves as long as people are not harmed. thus, he pointed out some of the good things from cuba - a stellar medical school, for example. if you don't know about their medical school, many med students from the u.s. and other countries attend this school. in addition, american physicians and other medical care providers from the u.s. have participated in the staffing of these schools as teachers - via mexico and other latin american countries during the travel sanctions.

[retrowire]

182. yeah, i just realized that Hillary

wasnt referring to a specific movement, bit rather painting the fact that Bernie praised some good things about how they ran their government as if Bernie supported all those bad things as well.

she was smearing as hard as she could essentially.

the transcript cleared that up for me.

[hopemountain]

183. cool! nt

[TBF]

186. I just looked it up because I missed that part:

From transcript:

Univision plays a tape of Sanders praising Fidel Castro. There are scattered boos from the audience.

Sanders skirts the issue of Castro. He says he was against U.S. military adventures in Latin America.

Clinton tries to make an issue of Sanders’ support for Castro’s Cuba. She also calls for Congress to relieve Puerto Rico’s debt crisis. Sanders says that vulture capitalists should take a hit in the island’s debt restructuring.


^ As a socialist myself (and arguably more left than Sanders) there are some things about Cuba everyone can envy. They did pretty well for some 50 years in a little country that was blockaded off. You could do a search about the doctors - the monthly review had a good article about that. Here is just one article I've read: http://mrzine.monthlyreview.org/2012/fitz071212.html MR is a socialist periodical that has written a lot (and done reviews of books) dealing with medicine in Cuba and Venezuela.

I doubt Bernie was praising authoritarian regimes (nothing in his record suggests he would do so) - like most of us in this country he really does want a democratic model. He also is likely very disgusted at the way US has overtly and covertly involved itself in Latin and South America. Hillary is very hawkish in this area (evidence - her love of Kissinger and his reactionary policies).

The loudest red-baiting I'm hearing is coming from the Clinton camp. But if he does run in the general we certainly will hear more. It's easy to debunk because we have Bernie's record for many years to look at. You can pull up Bernie on You Tube from years ago and he was saying the same things he's saying now. Remember also that calling someone a "communist" is what the right wing does. Hillary is trying to say he is this extreme person and she's not - but when push comes to shove they will use the same label on her because that's what they do.

[retrowire]

189. thank you! nt

[chknltl]

168. How can one have a populist revolt when...

...the population likes many of the things their government does for them? Sure, it would be great if Cuba was a democracy but Castro had done enough 4 his citizenry that it did not make sense to push for that populist overthrough....but we went 4 it anyway. Bernie thinks it best to allow countries to choose their own paths, to let the US lead by example. Instead, Kissinger's history with regime change has fostered much animosity directed our way. That is how i interpreted what Senator Sanders said and yried to explain in detail.

[malletgirl02]

119. Bernie needs

to take the gloves off now in response.

[bkkyosemite]

112. They threw at him the he loves Castro meme

a FB friend thinks he is communist because her husband is from Cuba and thought Bernie liked Castro...Bernie explained it pretty well.

[retrowire]

114. Ugh, did Bernie really praise that bad movement because he didn't defend it very well.

God damnit here comes another meme, can we get the data?

[TBF]

187. Retrowire, I will do some looking into this for you -

I promise you that on any day of the week I and others (here in the socialist progressives group) have probably said more extreme things than Bernie ever has, and there aren't many folks I know of in this country who want an authoritarian model. Most of us are saying the same thing as Bernie - let's try redistribution, let's see what works in these Scandanavian and Latin America countries to see what we could improve here, at the most let's rein in corporations a bit so they don't have more power than people. No one wants a dictatorship. Folks like their religious and individual freedoms above all in this country and Bernie has shown he agrees with that and wants this process to be democratic.

What I need to find for you is some recent articles articulating Bernie's positions that are easy for you to use. I will work on this and bring it here to the Bernie forum.

[retrowire]

188. no worries

I read the transcripts and confirmed that Hillary wasn't referring to a specific movement.

she was equating Bernie's few positive comments of Cuba to him approving of ALL that happened in Cuba.

she's terrible basically.

[highprincipleswork]

115. Notice that Hillary called us "consumers". Think that is the POV of her political spectrum.

[Cassiopeia]

118. That's the kind word she uses for those not in the top 1%

[Baobab]

136. I see that ahead too-UNFORTUNATELY thats all Americans will be after their TiSA and automation.

Seriously..

Sanders will push the jobless future forward 15-20 years if he can make all education free through PhD level, but its inevitable, that by midcentury almost all jobs will be done by machines, and totally apolitical.. But bear in mind, he is PRETENDING GATS NEVER HAPPENED.. he's being too nice to Hillary, he should be tearing her apart n these 3 new and the huge 20 year old nightmare trade deal GATS.

(Hillary is hiding it and its effects)

[hopemountain]

184. yes, because to her, the presidency will be like

running a corporation. she has the business model mindset.
a local politician running for an elected office referred to our local community as consumers of his "product". when he was reminded that he would be "elected" and thus, "hired" by citizens who are his employers, he backtracked his verbiage. hillary needs someone to call her on this, too. we are citizens of these united states. we are the taxpayers and the employers and the government and its officials work for US.

[awake]

116. Well F can not stop herself from cutting Bernie off while letting Hillary go on and on....

[nc4bo]

123. He must stay aggressively on his message even by overtalking them. Nt

[Impedimentus]

126. So Damn Obvious

Really rude.

[MissDeeds]

127. +1000000

She apparently has no time constraints, but Bernie does.

The rules are different for the 1%.

[cannabis_flower]

135. I say let her talk

the more she talks the bigger the hole she digs.

[awake]

143. thank you good point

[Kall]

117. I assume it's 2 hours?

[Cassiopeia]

129. yep

[Impedimentus]

121. She Can't help Hiding Behind Obama, Again and Again, She Can't Speak For Herself

She not Hillary, She's BillHillBarack.

[New Earth]

141. lol!

[RoccoR5955]

122. Cenk says Bernie is KILLING her! n/t

[bkkyosemite]

128. Bernie is not hesitating tonight. MI gave him confidence to fight and not let

her get him at a debate.

[xloadiex]

130. WTF?

Courtesy of reddit.

Last 10 response times (including applauses) from most recent to when I started timing:
Commercial break
Hillary: 1 minute 19 seconds
Bernie: 51 seconds
Hillary: 1 minute 34 seconds
Bernie: 45 seconds
Bernie: 1 minute 18 seconds
Bernie: 35 seconds
Hillary: 1 minute 40 seconds
Commercial break
Bernie: 52 seconds
Hillary: 1 minute 35 seconds
Bernie: 39 seconds

[SamKnause]

132. WTF indeed.

[cyberpj]

140. I'm glad there is proof of what we noticed. nt

[New Earth]

145. total bullshit!

[nc4bo]

148. Ha, Mr. My Daughter works for HRC or whatever. It's obvious. Nt

[Cleita]

131. YESSSS!!!! He brought up,the Monroe Doctrine and how it

has given the likes of Henry Kissinger carte blanche to do anything they want to do all over Latin America, but the moderators are not following up on it. However they are probably part of the elite who benefitted from American companies raiding and plundering their countries.

[SamKnause]

139. Yes, I was glad he mentioned that.

[cyberpj]

134. Commercial Break... Anyone brave enough to look in on the CLINTON Thread coverage? nt

[bkkyosemite]

137. And he is getting more info out in less time...Go Bernie...ending comments

finally he will be last this time!

[retrowire]

142. Thank GAWD. nt

[Blus4u]

152. Standing O for the Berrnster

Woo hoooo

[bkkyosemite]

144. More Clinton supporters in the audience.

[retrowire]

151. Listen to that crowd for Bernie though! :D

Somebody yelled FEEL THE BERN at the end!

[nc4bo]

153. Bernie got a really loud round on his final statement. Nt

[Cassiopeia]

147. Thank you retrowire for setting up the threads tonight

and being so passionate through this primary.

You are a true asset to the Bernie revolution and I'm glad I was able to spend the night here with you and my fellow DU'ers talking about this awesome debate.

[saltpoint]

155. Seconded. eom

[retrowire]

158. Oh thank you so much, you're very gracious.

It's my pleasure. It's good to consolidate the conversation in a thread where we can all digest it together.

[Impedimentus]

174. Thanks Much !

Much appreciated !

[awake]

150. Bernie nails it on the questions not asked about the 1%

[SamKnause]

154. DID YOU SEE THAT LOOK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That was priceless.

Hillary didn't like the clapping and cheering for Bernie.

[saltpoint]

157. Agree. She just flat-out didn't care

for it one little iota!

[retrowire]

159. And that's 2wice I heard people in the crowd shout FEEL THE BERN!!!

Sorry Hillary, this will NOT be made easy for you.

[leftcoastmountains]

164. Yes boy was that telling!

[cyberpj]

156. Yes, Thank you. And did Bernie REALLY just get the last word? Wow. nt

[shanti]

163. finally.

[cyberpj]

160. Oh! And I'd really like to end my posting here tonight by saying "I'm not a natural politician"!

Can't wait to see THAT headline tomorrow.

Night all.

[Old Crow]

161. This is a silly observation, but I can't help myself.

The woman in the middle, María Elena Salinas, has the brightest, whitest teeth I have ever seen in my life.

[nc4bo]

162. Omg were they just chanting BERNIE!? Cool! Nt

[Kittycat]

165. And CNN just tried to say they were cheering Hillary.

Apparently we can't hear now.

[nc4bo]

171. Thanks for the confirm. Mhey, WE ALL KNOW what a BERNIE BERNIE chant sounds like

And 2 syllables does not sound like 3 and a B will never EVER sound like an H and there is no L in BERNIE!

[retrowire]

172. Oh sure,

They were definitely shouting "FEEL THE BERN!" and then transitioning to a Hillary chant. No doubt.

LMAO

Can ANYONE deny hearing the Feel the bern shout outs?

[nc4bo]

173. LMAO! Only in Bizarro World. Listening to Hillary post debate show. Ugh.nt

[Blus4u]

166. Great job with a great debate

Moderator's should handle the Trump et al crowd.

[Svafa]

167. Did anyone watch the Washington Post cast? Their pundits are horrible.

[Old Crow]

170. Agreed. (N/T)

[zentrum]

169. She redefined Progressive!

She keeps saying that Progressive means moving forward.

So by this definition, just walking out of my door each morning—I'm a Progressive!

It was the most insulting vaseline on a hugely important concept that I've yet heard.

She opened using all his issues—she's come to Jesus in her public appearances.

We're never going to see those transcripts. And it's not just Goldman. It's millions and millions worth of hidden transcripts.

His best debate yet.

Do vote in the debate polls:

http://heavy.com/news/2016/03/poll-who-won-democratic-debate-cnn-univision-bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton/


http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/03/poll_who_won_the_cnn_democratic_debate_3916_how_di.html

[Stardust]

179. Bernie's at 93% in both polls right now.

[SoapBox]

175. David Axlerod Tweet...

Alright

David Axelrod
David Axelrod‏ @davidaxelrod

She did it again and I'll say it again. It's misleading to imply that TARP II was an auto bailout bill. #DemDebate
Mar 9, 2016, 6:49:50 PM from Arizona, USA

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176. She did do it again, and she did it on

purpose, and she did it low-down and dirty.

Shame on her. Shame on her for doing it and shame on her again for not ever hiring anybody for her staff to tell her not to do it.

[SoapBox]

177. Isn't amazing...

That someone can be so low down, to keep repeating crap that has been shot down repeatedly.

That's just dirty politics.

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178. It is. Something like the

unethical treatment by Ralph Reed and many other conservatives on Max Cleland, or the swiftboaters' treatment of John Kerry.

It's a deliberate smear job.

I don't think Hillary can pull this off. I think she loses more votes than she wins when she tries it. Sanders' fundraising since Michigan now exceed 5 million bucks.