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(5,066 posts)
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 10:47 PM Mar 2016

well fellow bernie supporters

I think it may be time for me to leave both DU and democratic party which i have been voting for since i turned 18 in 1992.

I refuse to support corporate neocon kissinger/reagan/bush lover clinton.I refuse to support a party anymore that is fine with
Clinton voter fraud just like bush did in 2000 and 2004.and who supports clintons who call us like tea party.

we knew clinton would win florida and NC.but losing 56% to 43% In ohio that really stings.dems were fine supporting free trader clinton as all those union bosses who sold out working class to support pro-nafta pro-tpp CLinton.

Bernie's 41% In NC is only decent showing throughout the south.

now bernie may pull off win in my state of Missouri.he's ahead 51 to 48 at present.and he's down 48 in illinois

basicly it's been proven this isn't the democratic party.it's the clinton party.too many are blind to her.and DU shows suspposed dems will support anything she does.

Winning Mo alone isn't going to blunt this.

I don't care if clinton or trump wins.both are enemies of progressives and what dems used to stand for.

Democratic party isn't progressive party.it's corporate neocon party.they fool progressives just like GOP fools relgious voters.

When trump wins they can't say we didn't warn them.

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well fellow bernie supporters (Original Post) Robbins Mar 2016 OP
NO - give it one more week. Stay in here, don't go out there. She has to get to 2383 delegates & jillan Mar 2016 #1
Problem is Robbins Mar 2016 #7
don't forget the old saying Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2016 #14
My consence doesn't leave me with supporting Robbins Mar 2016 #16
looking at the votes and delegates Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2016 #18
if he doesn't get enough by june Robbins Mar 2016 #19
Ya gotta stop with the negativity. retrowire Mar 2016 #2
Exactly shanti Mar 2016 #17
don't leave yet - please!! dana_b Mar 2016 #3
I'm so sad tonight, Robbins. And I do believe you are correct. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #4
Why are you quitting on us now?? RepubliCON-Watch Mar 2016 #5
Take it easy. Cassiopeia Mar 2016 #6
Don't give up yet. TM99 Mar 2016 #8
ya fall down and get a grass stain on your knees Pharaoh Mar 2016 #9
See You When You Come Back noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #10
Bernie isn't quitting Old Codger Mar 2016 #11
I will not quit. grasswire Mar 2016 #12
March 22 and beyond is Bernieland. in_cog_ni_to Mar 2016 #13
Don't worry too much about it Hydra Mar 2016 #15
Please Don't Give Up - It's NOT OVER - Really Impedimentus Mar 2016 #20


(39,451 posts)
1. NO - give it one more week. Stay in here, don't go out there. She has to get to 2383 delegates &
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 10:49 PM
Mar 2016

she is not there yet.

Hang on. Just one more week.


(5,066 posts)
7. Problem is
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 10:54 PM
Mar 2016

after possibly losing 4 out of 5 states tonight we really can't afford anymore big loses.new york and california come to minds.
Bill clinton shut down polling places in MAss,Ohio,and Illinois.

fact is too many dems are blindly supporting clinton.bernie is doing as well as he is because of independents.

illnois just got closer 51 to 49.so maybe miracle will happen and bernie takes 2.he likely took missouri but they will wait till last possable second to call it for him.

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
14. don't forget the old saying
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:07 PM
Mar 2016

a week is a long time in politics. Things will change. The idea is that we also try to get some like minded people elected into the House and Senate. You don't have to leave DU!


(5,066 posts)
16. My consence doesn't leave me with supporting
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:12 PM
Mar 2016

those who supported CLinton in primarys.plenty proved they aren't real progressives.

In my state of Missouri we likely was only state tonight bernie won but too many dems supported clinton.

so many dems don't support us or progressive ideas only what clintons and their donors want.

yeah bernie will defently have some victorys coming and this race likely won't be over till june

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
18. looking at the votes and delegates
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:16 PM
Mar 2016

Bernie got a heck of a lot of votes. He has picked up a lot of delegates.


(5,066 posts)
19. if he doesn't get enough by june
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:25 PM
Mar 2016

the crooked establishment will push clinton over top

i disagree that movement will survive because if bernie doesn't win establishment defeated it.and there is no pushing clinton left.


(10,345 posts)
2. Ya gotta stop with the negativity.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 10:50 PM
Mar 2016

We've been expecting this for weeks. Michigan gave us a big head. We weren't meant to WIN ANYTHING tonight, and yet here we are!

Get a grip pal, the negativity is contagious and it only fuels their fire.


(21,666 posts)
17. Exactly
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:13 PM
Mar 2016

I had to talk down my brother, who is very pro Bernie. I will only concede when Bernie does.


(11,546 posts)
3. don't leave yet - please!!
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 10:50 PM
Mar 2016

first off, Bernie did not lose everything tonight. He is winning MO and coming closer in Illinois. Also, look here:

There is STILL hope!!


(6,282 posts)
4. I'm so sad tonight, Robbins. And I do believe you are correct.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 10:50 PM
Mar 2016

When you see the "inclusive" "identity politics" that the Democratic establishment loves playing, this is the same wool over the voters' eyes that the GOP play with religious voters. It really is no different in end result, just a slightly different tack.

Not enough people think about the real issues facing the country, and project themselves into a race when it should be about ideas not personality.



(559 posts)
5. Why are you quitting on us now??
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 10:51 PM
Mar 2016

Look, I know the DNC is corrupt as ever, but we need to represent a democratic movement and take our nation back. Bernie has worked tirelessly to fight for our own issues and fight for the 99%. Now it's time to give him a chance and hang in there. We can do this, we're sooooo close!


(2,603 posts)
6. Take it easy.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 10:52 PM
Mar 2016

We were supposed to lose Michigan and all 5 of them tonight. Missouri is looking good, and Illinois is going to be close.

Also, see this:


It's not over.



(8,352 posts)
8. Don't give up yet.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 10:54 PM
Mar 2016

This is a marathon not a sprint.

Tonight is not surprising. Clinton wins conservative states. NC, FL, and OH are not progressive, they are conservative.

MO is going to go for Sanders and IL may as well. Even if it doesn't he picks up lots of delegates there due to the closeness of the race. Moving forward, we have many states that are strong Sanders.

There is a push yet again for the inevitability of Clinton. They are pushing for us to 'grow up', be serious, fight Trump, blah blah, bullshit, yada, yada, etc. Let them rant and rave and act like arrogant snarks all they want. Pay them no attention. Focus on what is in front of us.

Clinton did not secure enough delegates tonight to win. Sanders has to take more delegates and it is not insurmountable either.

I agree with what you are saying. The progressive truly does not have a party any longer. The Clinton DLC Machine has almost fully taken over. Most American voters are ignorant and easily swayed by rat-fuckings, artful smears, and lies. And you better believe it, Clinton is the queen of all three of those.

Stick around if you can. You are always welcome to come over to JPR for breaks from the jerks here.



(8,209 posts)
9. ya fall down and get a grass stain on your knees
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 10:54 PM
Mar 2016

and your too weak to get up again? ...................Get a grip man! We need you! Tomorrows another day. 1 Battle in a long war. Surprises happen in life and war. Keep the faith brother.....

Besides' we are about to take Missouri and Illinois is close!


(1,890 posts)
10. See You When You Come Back
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 10:55 PM
Mar 2016

The rest of us aren't going anywhere. We'll be here when you get back. We've known for weeks this was going to be a tough night and yet here we have MO & IL CLOSE. That wasn't predicted. We are having a better night than what we thought was going to happen. THINK.


(14,459 posts)
15. Don't worry too much about it
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:10 PM
Mar 2016

It is disturbing that Clinton lied or put both feet in her mouth just about every day this week and still did this well...but consider this: Bernie is now considered to be a serious contender both by Team Hill and the MSM.

That's a huge change, and it didn't happen by accident.


(898 posts)
20. Please Don't Give Up - It's NOT OVER - Really
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:29 PM
Mar 2016

The worst is behind us after tonight. IT WILL GET BETTER - wait a few weeks and see.

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