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[Betty Karlson]

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[fleur-de-lisa]

1. K&R

[Betty Karlson]

2. Update: thread remains locked.

Because... it is like it is, or some such status quo argument. I don't know. Reasons weren't even given.

[LiberalArkie]

3. I think it is best for Bernie supporters to think of themselves as a poor black person in the 50's

south and the system here is the system there. Sure the rules apply to everyone the same. If a black person punches a white man, the black man will rot in jail. If a white man punches a black man then no one sees anything.

The same rules apply to everyone equally don't they.

[Betty Karlson]

4. Or a gay person in the 1980s and 1990s

"Those creeps were asking for it. We panicked when they were so openly different."

- "The defendants are hereby cleared of all charges and exonerated."

[LiberalArkie]

6. Yes, We are visitors here in a HRC paradise. We have to play by the rules

they do not. That's just the way it is, the way it has always been. As we used to say It never helps to piss off the system.

[RoccoR5955]

9. Or the Irish or Italians of the early 20th Century. n/t

[Betty Karlson]

11. Amazing how many analogies can be found.

Must be because Bernie is bringing all people together

[Hiraeth]

5. There is a difference between "time out" and banning by admin.

five hides did not have to serve their full 90 day time out.

Banned by admin is banned forever.



Sorry.

I have a couple of those posters above on ignore.

[Betty Karlson]

7. Until the thread was locked, we were discussing the possibility that maybe the ban

was up for review. It was a mostly productive discussion. Which is probably why the thread was locked; so it would stop trending.

[Hiraeth]

10. well, unless you were talking with admin and they are actually considering it. Sorry

Did not read the thread, were admin actually in the thread?

[LiberalArkie]

8. I was on a jury that got TruMad timed out. He was back the next week.

[Hiraeth]

13. I replied to one of his OPs this morining and then put him on ignore. Suggest you do the same.

It is not worth it. Dust off your feet and move on. We have work to do. Do not let them distract you. They are gone for HRC and that is their right.

[LiberalArkie]

22. Yep, I generally can't get into arguments anyway as the arthur in hands make it

difficult to type long posts, so I generally just post articles from other sites. I don't think well enough any more to carry on a debate any more. I may not be able to express myself but my brain still knows right from wrong and still thinks it is back in the 60's.

[Hiraeth]

23. Ole Arthur sure gets around.

Hang in there.

[merrily]

12. I thought "disruptive meta" was a reason to lock a thread, not a reason to hide.

That was a totally arbitrary, partisan hide. Nothing in the TOS prohibits mentioning MannyGoldstein or referring to enforced vacations from posting as "purgatory." In light of Skinner's recent post about removing blatant partisans from jury service, I would alert on the notice of hide.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10135098

[Betty Karlson]

14. How do I do that?

[merrily]

16. There should be a spot to alert at the bottom of the notice of hide.

There is when I get results of my jury duty. If not, post in ATA.

[Betty Karlson]

18. Found it. And trying to use it too.

[merrily]

19. Go for it. Use the links you posted, too.

No one should even have alerted, let alone voted to hide. Sheer bs.

[Hiraeth]

15. depends on the jury. yes, alert on the verdict. good luck

[Rebkeh]

17. Sometimes I wonder

I didn't know Manny, I am too new here.

As for the Bernmentum, I am confident the pendulum will swing back at least once before the convention. Momentum still matters, math is not the final determining factor, not until all votes are cast.

But I wonder ...

The whole 'disruptive meta' thing reminds me of the humanities vs science clashes in college. Liberal arts v sciences, because poli sci people are not sociology people. This is why politics is constantly riddled with conflict, it's an intersection of the two. That the political scientists claim ownership and expertise of politics in general doesn't help at all. When they win, they only win half. But when they lose, we all lose. Yet they won't step up, they want us to conform instead. Which never works, I don't know why they think it will work this time.

Add that to the whole insider/outsider bullshit they are doing now, which, incidentally, is the very crux of the problem in Washington. That's not even college it's high school, maybe even grammar school.

I'm with you though, on the pro-Bernie train.

[merrily]

20. Disruptive meta in an OP here is a reason to lock a thread, not to hide.

Besides which, nothing in her post violated the terms of service or was disruptive. It's a ludicrous, partisan hide.

[Rebkeh]

21. I didn't see any reason to hide it either nt

[Betty Karlson]

24. locking this for now.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027690674

This is now considered "disruptive meta". Meanwhile, the following threads were allowed to stand. Like an inverted gravedancing.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027691035
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027689077
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027690470

So I petitioned the administrators to show some even-handedness. They are "looking into it". With about the same speed and alacrity as their preferred candidate is looking into the release of those transcripts, presumably. No results so far.

So here is what I am going to do: I am going to write some OPs about gay issues. Because I know that Sanders has always been on the right side of history. He cares about these issues as much as I do.

And thus, I hope to lift some of the anger from my mind, and poor it into appreciation of the best Democratic candidate in a very long while.

Senz, earlier today, had a most kind conversation with me about love and understanding. We used Latin phrases. I want you all to know how much I appreciate this group, and especially the kindness and the intellect that you leave here for all to see.

Bernie would be proud of your achievement here. It is bringing people together.

With great love,

Bettie.