Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumNOT limited to DU: On ANY message board, why would you put someone on ignore?
I have gone from priding myself on not putting anyone on ignore, to putting one incredibly annoying and persistent poster on ignore, to, most recently enjoying just the simplyu act of hitting the ignore button. So, I got curious. On any message board, what prompts you (no pun intended) to use ignore as to a poster?
Sample answers
Often inaccurate, intentionally or not
Posts tediously predictably
Trolls almost every thread with some one line, dumb ass post, often an ad hom
Rarely posts anything useful.
Post serious replies and/or just have fun with it--your choice.
This is not a poll because I want the responses to be anything you feel, believe, want to fabricate, want to laugh at, etc.
Besides, internet polls don't count. http://www.democraticunderground.com/128083341
ladjf
(17,320 posts)I believe in an open board policy.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Land of Enchantment
(1,217 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)From none to modestly massive in weeks...in fact most of my ignore list is since Sunday morning.
merrily
(45,251 posts)potone
(1,701 posts)It was because she was spouting false accusations of racism against Bernie supporters. Then I decided that I didn't want to put anyone on ignore because I didn't want to only read the comments of people who agreed with me. That resolution went out the window after the last primaries. I now have a list of Hillary supporters whose comments have been so unjust and dishonest, or just plain hostile, that I see no point in reading what they have to say.
I still would like to debate the merits of the candidates with Hillary supporters, but they avoid discussing policy and only want to smear Bernie (witness the ridiculous thread about Bernie's supposed mistreatment of his wife), demoralize Bernie supporters and pressure us to give up. That is not something that I think should be the purpose of a political message board.
merrily
(45,251 posts)without ignore for the most part.
It's gotten dead boring, though, especially since many of my most favorite posters have left in disgust and/or been banned.
bigbrother05
(5,995 posts)Have seen most in concert
merrily
(45,251 posts)Trajan
(19,089 posts)You would admonish the administrators for ejecting conservatives ...
Because, you know you would never want to ignore a rating, raving lunatic tRump supporter ...
ladjf
(17,320 posts)the market place will deal with it. A "rigged" political discussion board cannot endure the negative
reactions of the posters, particularly the disaffection.
Trajan
(19,089 posts)Nuff said ... Enjoy your day ...
thereismore
(13,326 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Mine tends to run low as it is, but I do like to avoid nausea or boredom.
questionseverything
(9,654 posts)i have also found trashing threads makes life better
what's the question about?
i probably missed it because the culprit is on ignore???
lol
merrily
(45,251 posts)Is what I would have posted if I had been able to see your post.
ladjf
(17,320 posts)Aren't we all Americans? Aren't we all humans? Aren't we all in this Global mess together?
Response to ladjf (Reply #10)
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Stardust
(3,894 posts)ladjf
(17,320 posts)Stardust
(3,894 posts)ladjf
(17,320 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Then again, I laugh as often as I can without getting myself arrested.
JudyM
(29,236 posts)questionseverything
(9,654 posts)good morning judy!
JudyM
(29,236 posts)Reading threads feels better already. I might target another 2 or three before too long... anticipating a tougher fight between B&H will bring out more harsh attitudes. Hoping for that, actually, since it'll mean Bernie continues to score big wins!
Nay
(12,051 posts)peace13
(11,076 posts)...ignorant of the law, refuses to educate oneself as a post evolves. Oh, and supports a different Presidential candidate than I do with the gusto of a paid unthinking goof.
Edited to add that I used to be more elastic but this has gone on entirely too long.
merrily
(45,251 posts)angstlessk
(11,862 posts)why should I?? Remember the adage...keep your friends close, but your enemies closer?
Though I don't see Hillary supporters as my enemy, just my opponent, but it holds true just the same.
merrily
(45,251 posts)angstlessk
(11,862 posts)After all, it was his song
merrily
(45,251 posts)angstlessk
(11,862 posts)And knowing Dylan was there makes it that much more greater (sic?)
merrily
(45,251 posts)angstlessk
(11,862 posts)Thanks, nostalgia is what we old folks love!
merrily
(45,251 posts)angstlessk
(11,862 posts)Thanks for that
VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)Because fuck trying to slog through that crowd.
astrophuss42
(290 posts)I've never blocked anyone but I'm warming up to the idea. For me it's the incessant posting of gotcha threads. Luckily they are easily trashed. I also trashed the HRC group. Thanks for the tip whoever that was.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Good times.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,611 posts)Why? Because this member said something truly ugly to me some time ago, and I don't want to see it if I should look at my thread again.
The post disturbed me so much that I resorted to this to keep from having so much pain at the post.
I should have alerted on the post but it was late and I was tired. So I locked the thread and got out of there.
Funny--that poster hasn't been back since s/he wrote the post that hurt me so much.
merrily
(45,251 posts)CaliforniaPeggy
(149,611 posts)The person is not a troll, actually. X is a member in good standing and we used to be friendly.
Not any more.
Such is life...
Thank you for the hug.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Dead to me, too! And, you're very welcome for the hug. Here's a bigger, better one.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,611 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)I'm seldom kind to unkind posters.
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)Well screw you!!!!
merrily
(45,251 posts)Yes please!
merrily
(45,251 posts)dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)Even when I got my hold back of the plot, I didn't have my ignore list filling again... And then the anti-Semitic horseshit went around. First ignore in a week, and then after that, they all piled on. Dropped two group subscriptions, blocked people for trying to defend it, and took back up my habit of blocking people I consider not worth my time.
Land of Enchantment
(1,217 posts)allow them to get under my skin. Maybe it's ignorance or an abysmal lack of information. Who knows their motivation but getting a valid point across is like trying to nail jello to the ceiling. I wish them well but will not engage them anymore. I have at least 75 on Ignore.
merrily
(45,251 posts)and counting. Counting happily, I might add.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,014 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,014 posts)and it was essentially another version of the Cave. The clincher was when the second, insulting "other site" formed - that's when I realized I wanted nothing to do with them
merrily
(45,251 posts)VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)Ugh. Those kinds are just as reprehensible as their propaganda feeder, Brock.
merrily
(45,251 posts)But... it was a green bird. A beautiful shade of green.
ETA: Just looked it up. The bird in the video I saw looked green, but other images do look like the bird in your post. Sorry!
Land of Enchantment
(1,217 posts)that we have out here--it has the most beautiful song and it reminds me of you!
and in case you have not seen this one..
merrily
(45,251 posts)I am so flustered; I require smelling salts.
JudyM
(29,236 posts)hollysmom
(5,946 posts)Needless to say,I am not a troll. and I did not want to see their name again. My mental health is better than having toput up with shit.
merrily
(45,251 posts)only any poster who criticizes Third Way Democrats from the left. It's not what "troll" means and it's certainly not what "Republican" means. Then again, why expect accuracy from such types?
Donkees
(31,392 posts)observing crazy-making behavior
merrily
(45,251 posts)Trajan
(19,089 posts)My DU existence is pretty mellow, considering ...
I figure it this way - I have a fixed amount of time remaining in my life .. Why would I waste a single, solitary second on listening to another blowhard spew nonsense?
I simply don't have time for that kind of b.s. ...
merrily
(45,251 posts)the first time is the hardest. Something similar may be said of using the ignore feature for more than just one moran.
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)Bad video but great song...
merrily
(45,251 posts)dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)I just went to check how many I had on ignore, so I absent-mindedly hit a button on my profile and I got a bright yellow banner that said "You can't ignore yourself."
Yes I bloody well can!!!
merrily
(45,251 posts)unapatriciated
(5,390 posts)I watch a lot of the ID channel and he swears I'm taking notes.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)I now have over 50, and my life is much cheerier. It amuses me to see a post with allegedly 60 replies and I only have to see 20 of them. I don't hide Hillary supporters who are civil, who expound on why they like her, but if they start going after Bernie or his supporters for ridiculous reasons, they're outta here.
On Facebook, a few people have unfriended me, but generally my friends are Bernie supporters.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)Those are the ones abounding on my list, too. I bet we have a lot of the same people on ignore.
merrily
(45,251 posts)alittlelark
(18,890 posts)noretreatnosurrender
(1,890 posts)when people post:
Often inaccurate, intentionally or not
Posts tediously predictably
Trolls almost every thread with some one line, dumb ass post, often an ad hom
Rarely posts anything useful.
If I don't want to respond I skip over the comment and post somewhere else. In other words if I want to ignore someone I just ignore them. I've never used the ignore feature on any message board. I'm too much of an information junkie to ever use the ignore feature because I might miss something interesting.
There are some people who post here who I know will not have anything of value to offer so I usually just skip the entire thread and go on to a more interesting one. Life is too short to be drawn into discussing the same topic over and over and over with the same predicable result. Some threads whose only goal is to disrupt and divide just deserve to have people turn their back on them and let them whither from lack of interest.
merrily
(45,251 posts)noretreatnosurrender
(1,890 posts)I wish I could have been there....Wow...Dylan, Petty, Clapton, McGuinn, Young & Harrison. Wow. Helluva show! I smiled through the whole video and listened to it twice. Thanks for posting it.
merrily
(45,251 posts)noretreatnosurrender
(1,890 posts)A lot of Dylan's lyrics are certainly just as on point during this election as they were when he wrote them (Masters of War, The Times They Are A-Changin, The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carol, etc.). Big fan of his. The sheer number of really meaningful songs that he wrote is just stunning.
merrily
(45,251 posts)I love his lyrics, too. I know the Times They Are A Changing, but not the others you mentioned. I will look them up after I finish "parenting" this thread.
I got tolove Definitely Fourth Street because one of my most favorite restaurants when I lived in NYC was on Fourth.
Thanks.
noretreatnosurrender
(1,890 posts)to choose from. I think you meant to say Positively Fourth Street unless he wrote another song that I'm not aware of?
merrily
(45,251 posts)noretreatnosurrender
(1,890 posts)to all of us. I was posting in a thread about Dolores Huerta and spelled her name wrong. Some nice person corrected me and I fixed it. I've probably made all kinds of errors trying to multi-task while I'm on line. Thanks again for the video. I really enjoyed it and I hope you get a chance to listen to the songs I mentioned. I think you will like them.
merrily
(45,251 posts)roody
(10,849 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)Though like you, Ignore is new to me. 14 years on DU and I used it for the first time last last year. Now, I have no hesitation to use it
retrowire
(10,345 posts)If you approached me as if you were interested in having a serious conversation, but then quickly pivoted to twisting my words and accusing me of things then I would in all seriousness think that you're insane and I would turn around and walk out of the room.
Basically, the people on my ignore list are there because I'd ignore them in real life as well. There's no time to suffer fools. Not everyone online is who they say they are anyways!
That's my policy.
However, if we argue and get in shouting matches just because we disagree it's fine! That's passionate debate. But if it keeps happening and we can never seem to agree on a middle ground, that might get you on the ignore list as well.
merrily
(45,251 posts)How's the new job going?
retrowire
(10,345 posts)It will last 7 weeks and it consists of lessons, classes with instructors and tests...
THEN I can get to repairing robotic machines. Until then, I have a sweet cubicle to cry inside of silently. lol
I'm just getting driven mad waiting to actually get my hands on stuff that's all! Thanks for asking. It's just good to be employed again.
merrily
(45,251 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)my coworkers are real laid back and easy going. My boss is as well and THAT is taking some getting used to.
My last boss openly mocked my vegan beliefs and butted heads with me on news events...
he also once said the infamous line, "Trump will never win, but he is yelling it like it is" to the ire of me and my fellow democratic coworkers.
ghostsinthemachine
(3,569 posts)on message boards. She STILL trolls me, after 12 years not being married. I've changed my names so many times and she always finds them out. (Not this one yet)..... All over the internet.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)Posts tediously predictably
Trolls almost every thread with some one line, dumb ass post, often an ad hom
Rarely posts anything useful
Then are those who want to incite a flame war. Every effing time. And I believe a few do it just to incite a flame war and would be okay with doing it for the other candidate.
A lot I of my ignores came with the fly swatter. I just thought that was mean spirited. And not like a snicker in the back of the class but up front and confrontational.
Then there are the martyrs....
merrily
(45,251 posts)And, yes, I now ignore him or her.
HubertHeaver
(2,522 posts)I don't need another myocardial infarction.
Most were added to the list after the "jailbreak".
merrily
(45,251 posts)Great reason! Take good care of yourself.
HubertHeaver
(2,522 posts)The miscreants were suddenly out and running amok.
merrily
(45,251 posts)HubertHeaver
(2,522 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Oh, well, it's his board.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)Secondly, I'd like to see if I can put more people on ignore than the HRC group has excommunicated.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)I am sure firefox has a version too though.
merrily
(45,251 posts)I think DU's internal settings provide that option, though.
VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)although I understand your aversion, I feel the same way about it. Cleared 225 or so yesterday, and honestly I have moments where I have to ask, "did you slip through a crack? is the ignore feature breaking?"
BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)I spent my first several days here without seeing one substantive post on issues from a Hillary Clinton supporter. It was the latest poll, gloating, baiting, etc. Once I decided several hundred posts from dozens of Hillary supporters constituted a reasonable sample size, I started putting them on ignore the minute I see them and have continued that to now. I might be missing a few reasonable people, but I think the signal to noise ratio is much higher without them. Anybody who originates a loyalty oath thread (which are always tilted to Hillary) goes on ignore, along with a few others for individual reasons.
And I would guess that the vast majority of Hillary Clinton supporters have me on ignore. I have no problem with that at all. I am guessing there are basically 2 different conversations going on here on many different threads. One of the great features about ignore at DU is that not only do you not see a post from somebody you have on ignore, but you don't see responses to them.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Maedhros
(10,007 posts)1. Posters who only respond to other people with 2-3 lines of snark, followed by . These posters are useless - they add nothing to any conversation.
2. Posters who do not argue in good faith, who do not back up their assertions with links or evidence, yet continue to insist that they are "right."
3. Posters who use race to drive a wedge between Democrats.
4. Posters who repeat stale, tired arguments that I've debunked a thousand times.
5. Posters who blame the 2000 debacle on Nader. Because stupid.
merrily
(45,251 posts)A poster who fits your description #2 to a T is the only poster I've made an ignore "announcement" about.
The kind who stalls and stalls and, once you do blow him or her out of the water, changes the subject without skipping a beat--then accuses you of ducking the issue. As amusing as that may be the first few hundred times, it gets dead boring.
Misusing any issue in the category sex, sexual or gender orientation, skin color, religion for wedge politics is distasteful at best, whether Republicans do it or Democrats do it. And when a Democratic politician running for President or his or her campaign surrogates do it, ugh. I've seen only one two it--and in two Presidential primaries to boot. Then again, I wasn't around when Wilson ran.
djean111
(14,255 posts)finally sent me an obnoxious private message. I saw no need to even recognize their existence after that. after all, the same disjointed list of polls and utterances, post after post, gets really old.
A couple of weeks ago, it seemed to me that a lot of posters were only posting crap designed to needle. I am sure the crap was meant to dishearten - but, dudes, this is an internet message board, the stuff meant to dishearten is so easily recognizable it is kind of funny, really. And then there was the sheer nasty stuff, which made me think oh, I hope I don't know any of these people in real life! ugh.
I used to feel like that stuff was amusing, but it got boring - the nasty stuff, the verbose and condescending stuff, the authoritarian stuff, the dollar-store psychoanalytic stuff, the dementedly repetitious stuff - and I just thought well, no matter how many times I read it, I will still think it is crap, so why keep reading it? And, really, Hillary is Hillary, records are records, deeds are deeds, issues are issues - and since I am never going to feel war and fracking are GOOD, and I will never support someone whose policies are distasteful to me, just because of their gender, I thought why even keep reading the bullshit?
So now, full ignore is wondrous, and I am absolutely certain I am not missing anything but pointless blather. I was astounded that they believed what they were spouting. Time to say see ya.
Adding something here - one thing I did get from the ugliness was the realization that just maybe the Democratic Party has morphed into something else. There seems to be a mean junior high mentality to it, and this is supposed to be something that helps people and makes their lives better, not threats and jeers and insults. So lots of thinking to do about that.
merrily
(45,251 posts)I can't imagine who fits that description. However, that poster sure does sound as though he or she should be on the ignore list of every supporter of Sanders, even those who don't ignore any other poster. Actually, that sounds like a candidate for banning, but good luck with those dreams if the person also slams Bernie.
merrily
(45,251 posts)BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)I am very forgetful about them.
merrily
(45,251 posts)It's the latest recycling program.
DemocracyDirect
(708 posts)They have earned an ignore by only publishing one line factless messages that only demean or dismiss.
If anyone posts a fact, even if it's incorrect or false, they do not deserve an ignore.
merrily
(45,251 posts)delrem
(9,688 posts)I mean jeez, I cheated on my own ignore file so I quit pretending.
I ended my ignore file and instead I try to use my head a little bit and recognize, for example, BrockPAC trolls for what they are, coordinated all the way up the chain to the top by professionals feeding them lines. BrockPAC trolls feed on racial division, they ratfuck "white progressives", and most recently they jumped right onto the "Bernie is a wife abuser" meme. They aren't necessarily "smart" as individuals, but they're following a professionally written program that has a purpose. Brock coordinates directly with Hillary Clinton's campaign.
I wouldn't call such people Dems in any case -- I don't accept the "evolutions" of people like David Brock and Robert Kagan and a whole slew of other weasels. That might bother some people, that I wouldn't call such people Dems, but I prefer not to tarnish the name. At least so long as Bernie Sanders is sweeping the remaining states.
Even Skinner pretended that he didn't understand what Jonathan Capehart was about, in Capehart's sick column denying that Sanders was Sanders in his youth, all of this immediately preceding the southern state primaries and after a campaign of racial division attacking "Bernie supporters" as being somehow "racist" and "misogynist" and "sexist" "BernieBros" everywhere on the internet, and all having connections with David Brock. So even BrockPAC trolling goes way deep. How can one participate on the forum and at the same time put THAT much on ignore.
merrily
(45,251 posts)I've heard of it. Ignorance may not be bliss, but ignoring ignorance comes close!
delrem
(9,688 posts)So there's that: to know ones enemy.
merrily
(45,251 posts)did not get on this board via Brock. However, if Brock does post at DU, I am sure I either have already ignored him or will soon. So, ignore function wins, no matter what.
delrem
(9,688 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)delrem
(9,688 posts)I was replying to your OP! It was kind of an abstract question about a forum option.
I related my experiences with using the gadget and that after having used the 'ignore' gadget I stopped (tho' I have a handful of people on 'ignore PMs' - I have a zero tolerance policy there).
Read back to my first reply.
I know who the assholes are, on DU - the trolls.
The ones who couldn't talk policy, issues, for the life of them.
The ones who follow their leader in saying that a $12/hr minimum wage is more "realistic" and "pragmatic" than the $15/hr demanded by the recent employee uprisings, and who would roll back California and New York, apparently, for just now legislating $15/hr. That couldn't be "real", to them. The fuckers. They're so unthinking. So regressive that they can't even keep up with today.
But I've been reading and contributing to DU for a long time before these absurd primaries, with the absurd "inevitable establishment candidate" Hillary Clinton. I don't have to actually *read* a person's post, if they aren't on ignore, and I often don't, when at the same time I scroll down and look for responses from people who I admire somewhat. I know most of these posters' usernames from years of acquaintance. There are a few of them who post to promote Hillary Clinton who I still admire and enjoy reading, though they are few and far between. A problem with my discussing anything with them is the "Ostrich Syndrome", where I can't even mention that a million dead Arabs paid for war profits that kept the US war economy going, in large part through Hillary's doing. And on part of her friends. But I don't imagine that kind of conversation could ever happen on DU, anyway.
merrily
(45,251 posts)trolling one liners to discussion.
DU is the first board on which I used the ignore function, this board is my only personal experience with it. But, yes, my OP indeed inquired about ignore on all boards, not only DU. I think some of the answers were very good. I never know what might end up being a good thread.
jillan
(39,451 posts)Someone that I never met but our paths have crossed in political forums.
Well he served on a jury, and you can imagine my surprise when I saw he posted a post that I had hidden by jury on facebook.
Above the post he boasted how he voted to hide my post.
Then he would make snarky comments on threads I started here, comments that added nothing to the conversation & were more of a dig at me.
A little too creepy for me.
As far as people who post here, I can ignore them without placing them on ignore.
BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)I would recommend sending the stalking posts on to whoever runs this place. That is beyond creepy.
jillan
(39,451 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)My attitude is fuck it, if they are going to act like that I don't have to read their shit.
merrily
(45,251 posts)HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)with the utility of DU as a news source.
I'm approaching steadily DU being too dysfunctional to provide service.
merrily
(45,251 posts)DU is a pretty good news source. It used to also be a pretty good place for me to get insights into issues behind the headlines, but that morsel has all but vanished. Posters like you, The Kentuckian, Marr, Maedhros, Lasher, woo me with science,djean and so many others now post here rarely, if at all. I miss the wisdom, insights and knowledge.
One line ad homs about posters, fact free smears of politicians and bad faith "discussion" "strategies" just don't do it for me. However, I may be in the minority when it comes to political discussion boards because those things do seem to compromise the majority of replies. It's less discussion posting and more hit and run posting.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)I got in the habit of DU as news back when no one could post breaking political news before him
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)...or the poster and I just don't get along.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)Right now I have three people ignored, and I'm seriously considering two or three others.
It's my opinion that those specific posters are vile piles of excrement, and I don't understand why at least one of them hasn't been tombstoned. My time here is much more pleasant now that I never see their crap.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Well, for those of us who are not being paid.
If it's not a pleasant way of using time, we should take up crocheting, perfecting the soufflé or building ships in bottles.
NV Whino
(20,886 posts)Are the ones who post pointless, silly posts and have nothing productive or informative to say. This excludes the Hillary crew, because on occasion they actually have something interesting to say.
merrily
(45,251 posts)without posting a single interesting thing. Many simians at many keyboards have a better shot because they don't let bad intentions mess up the random odds.
OK, this post is now enough of an excuse, albeit a very slim one, to post one of my most favorite gifs
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Posts tediously predictably
Trolls almost every thread with some one line, dumb ass post, often an ad hom
Rarely posts anything useful.
I took everyone off my ignore list and that is really how a lot of Hillary supporters look to me. Not all of them of course I can think of two I actually like.
There are those who post OPs that I just trash upon seeing their handle. And there are posters I see their avie and skip over their posts. But, I like to see what the daily outrage is. So, no one is on actual ignore.
Your list is the criteria I use on other message boards though the not political ones.
merrily
(45,251 posts)have been lax in even my stepped up use of ignore.
BTW, I haven't missed knowing the outrage du jour. It was only ever good mostly only for mockery and the eyeroll emote, anyway--occasionally followed by
Fronkonsteen
(75 posts)Mostly Bernie bashers, naturally.
merrily
(45,251 posts)However, I know of no way to help them anyway.
I was once babysitting--for a psychiatrist, btw--whose mother in law was in the home with the kids. He told me she was not well, but he had given her enough medication for horse and she would be asleep soon. A saner, less gullible twenty year old would have left on the spot. Didn't even leave me an emergency number to call and I forgot to ask for one.
Yep, you guessed it. The mother in law never went to sleep. Acted out all night. The youngest of the three kids eventually fell asleep. The other two did not. I was too busy never taking my eyes off the mother in law and trying to make everything seem normal and under my control to get any of the kids bathed and in bed.
When he and his wife got home from their party at around 4:30 am, I was as exhausted and wrung out as any 20 year old can be. However, he took me to the ER with him and her to get her admitted, so I could describe the mother in law's behavior to the admitting doc. He told me that it was a miracle that I, too, was not in a psychotic break because that is what happens to people, even professionals, who spend many hours with someone who is in a psychotic break. That came as close to telling me that "crazy is contagious" as anyone has ever come--and he being the admitting doc for people in the midst psychotic breaks. And insulating oneself from potentially contagious craziness may be the best reason to use ignore.
Now that I look back on it, I don't think I even got paid for that night! Fsck that pyschiatrist and his wife twice. The mother in law (who never did try to hurt herself or any of us, just behaved bizarrely) was apparently the best adult in that family.
Festivito
(13,452 posts)Can't remember what point of view it was now.
I do not to use ignore. Newbies might see a post go unanswered if we have too many ignoring posts.
There are posters I want on my no jury list. One is now banned from DU.
But, it's true that I lack the time to read as much as I would like to read and using the ignore function would help keep me better informed.
I wish that some persons would use it more rather than complaining about what someone else said on DU.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Rebkeh
(2,450 posts)Life is too short to deal with jerks.
I don't ignore people that I simply disagree with, I ignore people that are toxic about it. I mean people that are more interested in conflict for the sake of conflict itself. Confrontation can be constructive, which I'm fine with, but dealing with nastiness is a waste of my time. Especially if it's pretty obvious I won't change their mind, and they have nothing to offer for me to change mine. People that suck the air out of the room will be summarily dismissed, no negotiation. It's just a basic rule I have for myself, one more for self preservation than anything. It's not personal, I just have better things to spend my energy on. I don't have the space in my mind for toxicity, I'm not the droid they're looking for.
A lively debate is great, important even. But reality show type drama, high school crap... moving on. Life is too short. Ain't nobody got time for that.
Oh, and bigots, sexists, Islamaphobes, anti-theists, etc get ignored immediately. For obvious reasons.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)(I don't use ignore at all)
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Last edited Wed Mar 30, 2016, 10:47 AM - Edit history (1)
I did trash the Hillary Clinton group. So I don't see any of that. I was kicked out of it, so I see no point in seeing posts from a group in which I can't respond.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)Which was a great song.
I noticed quite a few people referring to it here at the DU lately.
To keep it short --
If those members who are being ignored on a forum really talked the way they do to people in the real world -- the same way that they post on a forum -- they wouldn't have a single friend.
There are 3 types of forum members who simply can't coexist on a forum with real people.
The 1st type is the troll, who breaks the rulez so often or is so obnoxious that they become pretty obvious to most of the other members of the forum rather quickly.
The 2nd type is the troll fan.
There is nothing worse than a member of a forum cheering on another member who is purposely lying on the forum.
The former is a troll fan, the latter is the troll.
By tag-teaming with each other they can disrupt any conversation on any topic.
At the same time, they both may be sock puppets, which is the 3rd type of forum member, one who is not being honest with the rest of the members of the forum, in that they don't even exist except in the mind of the creator.
So, in order to disengage, and totally ignore the game those 3 types of members are playing, using the ignore button to make them disappear is the only option one has at their disposal when the admins of the forum fail to act.
Honestly, at some point in time, everyone -- every single member of a forum -- is going to have to decide how much time and effort they will expend in to participating on a forum.
Some people have much more time to participate, while others don't have much time at all.
Since sock puppets are not real people, they come and go and reappear like magic after laying dormant for months, or even years.
Trying to hold discussions with those 3 types of members on a forum on the internet is fruitless.
Each member of a forum has to decide for themselves how to deal with those 3 types.
Some people take themselves too seriously on forums.
But, I don't want to waste a lot of my time talking to any of those 3 other types.
It became a fairly serious problem for me once I realized that I was spending 100s of hours each month discussing issues on the internet, yet I am not immortal.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Contrary1
(12,629 posts)Anyone who posts a negative reply in the subject line with no argument to back up their position.
Lots of trolls...easy to spot.
Those who are flat out rude.
Anyone who wants to bring up race issues in every single thread.
Posters of "Loyalty to the Democrats Oaths", no matter who they support.
If the above folks ever have anything worthwhile to say, looks like I won't be seeing it.
merrily
(45,251 posts)FreedomRain
(413 posts)I felt the same for 9 years, wanted to hear all the viewpointts, know the arguments etc.
The first round was the grave dancers with the fly swatter thingie, that's about 10.
After that have slowly added 10 more, the people who are just rude. Now there are many rude persons who have something to say, or even just a clever way with words, posters I do not like, but I reserve ignore for the people that are just wasting my time.
On other boards and the like, I have never noticed there was such a feature! I did unfriend an actual dear friend on FB just because of the over the top foul language that I am fine with in RL but not on a public forum that I will be associated with. (He understands)
merrily
(45,251 posts)can put one in a dither. They are a lot like misquitoes---almost nothing to them, yet they annoyed those much bigger than they are. Man, they probably all should be zapped.
To me, whether in real life, or on a board, or whatever, few things are lower or more cowardly than attacking someone who cannot fight back in any way, even verbally.
AgerolanAmerican
(1,000 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)mrdmk
(2,943 posts)for twelve and a half years and have never used the ignore function. Always believed in hearing what anybody had to say. That was up to a few months ago.
Leading up to the 2008 election, the right-wing DLC, DINO's, and Third-way so-called Democrats moved in here and started having people who researchers and debaters PPR'd off of this board. The administrators knew about these actions and did nothing until the elections were over. It was ugly, hateful, thus sad to watch.
After the 2008 election, there was the great e-mail concerning this behavior from the administrators. You name it, the e-mail spelled it out, there was the goading by teams of wolf packs, sock-puppets at the end of their little sticky fingers, multiple login names by the scores all in the pursuit of, 'a death of a thousand cuts', directed at posters who deemed to be too far left. Not to mention some other shit going on aimed at the personal level. Long time posters knew of these antics back then, bitched about them and called out the trolls to their own demise. Yet, only after the 2008 election was anything done about the trolls.
Now here we are again, election season. Also here is Secretary Clinton and her ilk, back with the same stupid dog-eat-dog manipulation tactics and flying kitchen sinks. All I can say is WOW, and that is all I am going to say about her. She does not deserve anything else.
Now back to the ignore function. When you have people openly conspiring on another Website to work as a wolf pack, not wash their hands, and go all out Cybil on unsuspecting posters and keep their position of power on this board, not to mention, this group instructs the administrators of this board to forcefully get posters PPR'd or 'Flagged for Review', for not being enough of a democrat, I will use the ignore function very liberally, and I mean very liberally. Then to add insult to injury, these people bullies are given a, 'get out of jail free card.' Now, all these people can do now is look and sniff at my post. Fuck them and the horse they rode in on.
Rant over
merrily
(45,251 posts)prepositional substitution: And the horse they rode in in
It's very interesting that the posters were low count or not registered until 2008. Although I was not posting at DU then, I've since noticed that quite a few posters/screen names seem to come to "life" only during primary season(s)--and they are almost invariably DLC types. I once tried to warn in the Sanders Group not to be baited by people with that kind of profile and got attacked almost as much as I got agreed with.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/128034487
Now a thread saying something similar is pinned in the Bernie Group.
Sometimes, it's just so much easier not to notice things until after almost everyone else has noticed them and commented publicly. (Maybe that's why Hillary leads from behind?)
mrdmk
(2,943 posts)The inmates are running the Asylum at this point. Gotta love them though
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mak3cats
(1,573 posts)...but there are at least 20 whose OPs I automatically trash, regardless of the titles. (And I ignore any of their posts within threads - they're not worth my time and/or effort trying to talk sense to them because they don't have any.)
merrily
(45,251 posts)I am not. Besides, as I said, I am starting to get happy just clicking on their names, knowing that my next click will be ignore.
And doing stuff that makes me happy, well, makes me happy.
noamnety
(20,234 posts)If I wouldn't hang out with them in real life, why am I choosing to spend my free time with them here?
I go back and forth between just leaving DU because of certain people to avoid having that be part of my life, and staying so that I can help refute their drivel.
DU is the only part of my life where I deal with facebook style drama, infighting, toxic attitudes. I don't have it at home, don't have it with anyone in my family, don't have it at work, don't have it on other forums. I just have it with hillary supporters (not all of them).
merrily
(45,251 posts)redruddyred
(1,615 posts)i'm very impressed!
Zorra
(27,670 posts)Ignore is our friend.
merrily
(45,251 posts)That just may be my one word response to some DU posts in the future.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)hopemountain
(3,919 posts)post doublespeak. i don't know whether they are trolls for the gop, the corporations, or hillaryites. i don't care and i don't want to waste my precious time reading their shit.
merrily
(45,251 posts)LWolf
(46,179 posts)Since primary season began.
I generally don't use that function, simply ignoring people who don't add anything worthy to a conversation without clicking a button. When I do, it's because they pushed my buttons and I need a cooling off period. They'll come off the list after a couple of months.
I have used the "hide thread" feature every single day, multiple times, since this primary season began; not only does it clean off the front page, but it helps to deal with the temptation to kick a hateful thread by responding. I want those hateful threads to sink.
I'll be blunt. I found DU in 2002, read for awhile, joined in January of '03. DU has taught me a yuuuge, unintended lesson about Democrats and the Democratic Party.
Keeping in mind the TOS, I'll just say that I have lost most respect I ever had for the party, and for a large number of its members. I'm planning to change my registration this summer.
If Sanders wins the nomination, I'll rethink that plan. But, at this point, the only reason I see to be registered as a Democrat is to participate in primaries, and if I'm going to get fucking neo-liberals shoved down my throat, along with demands for loyalty, every primary season, there is no real point.
As far as putting people on ignore? DU is the only place I've ever done that, and it's in part due to the cooling off period, and in part due to the censorship issue. If I can't say what I really think because it violates partisan rules, I don't need to read or respond to partisan bullies.
merrily
(45,251 posts)On the other hand, I used to learn a lot at DU about politics, the Party, history, etc. Unfortunately, one way or the other, many of the more thoughtful and insightful posters have left and those who remain do not seem to participate in the ways that they once did.
mahina
(17,650 posts)I choose not to spend it arguing with donkeys.
merrily
(45,251 posts)I like yours too
freebrew
(1,917 posts)I never put anyone on ignore.
This year, I have. All Hillarians. All saying things I thought NO Democrat would ever say.
Sometimes it's just too much.
I'm getting old and I don't need their shit.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Bubzer
(4,211 posts)Beyond that, ad hominem, obvious trolling and/or baiting, those who're quite clearly looking to get into a fight... rather than a conversation. Those are a few big ones for me.
VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)I'm somewhere above 200 right now. And I've seen some shit that if I wanted to hemorrhage the brain cells, I could copypasta to FSTDT and see its fundie rating skyrocket.
merrily
(45,251 posts)DemocraticWing
(1,290 posts)I just had to put one person on ignore because they said something really awful, and then when I called them out for stirring things up my post was hidden. That was my first hide ever in 3 years of posting here, and I don't want anymore because somebody baited me into a response they could alert on.
There are a handful of posters on this board who are, almost explicitly, doing just that. Trying to stir things up to get Bernie posters mad so that we get kicked off DU.
If we don't put them on ignore they'll keep doing it. So goodbye until at least the end of the primary.