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Divernan

(15,480 posts)
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 04:17 AM Apr 2016

HuffPo: Clinton campaign in midst of historic collapse

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-abramson/hillary-clintons-support-_b_9579544.html

Clinton campaign is in the midst of an historic collapse — much of it due to the unraveling of support for Clinton among nonwhite voters — and the national media has yet to take any notice.

Clinton’s 48-point lead in New York less than two weeks ago is now just a 12-point lead, according to the latest Quinnipiac Poll. That poll shows Sanders with approximately 300 percent more support among African-American voters in New York than he had in Mississippi earlier this month. Meanwhile, in the only poll taken in Indiana, Sanders is said to be beating Clinton handily. Sanders is leading by 8 points in West Virginia. /b] And the only polling done so far in Kentucky — among nearly 1,000 students at the University of Kentucky — has Sanders up on Clinton there by more than 70 points.

In other words, nonwhite voting offers the media a clear and unambiguous narrative about Sanders — an unmissable trajectory — if only they’re willing to see it.

And the same dramatic trajectory — albeit in the opposite direction — is evident for Clinton.
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HuffPo: Clinton campaign in midst of historic collapse (Original Post) Divernan Apr 2016 OP
HRC support by non-whites dwindles to 1/3 of a month ago. Divernan Apr 2016 #1
The cynic in me says Art_from_Ark Apr 2016 #3
That's what I thought. PatrickforO Apr 2016 #9
K&R! 🎶👂🎶 Stardust Apr 2016 #6
Good article paulthompson Apr 2016 #2
Crazy EdwardBernays Apr 2016 #4
Amazing demo of power of social media. Divernan Apr 2016 #7
Wonderful news! alan2102 Apr 2016 #5
This. Is. YUGE. n/t deepestblue Apr 2016 #8
If by historic collapse, they mean the second time in history, I would agree. sorechasm Apr 2016 #10

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
1. HRC support by non-whites dwindles to 1/3 of a month ago.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 04:18 AM
Apr 2016
But what the latest Reuters polling underscores is that even Clinton’s support in the South has collapsed.

Today, Public Policy Polling, a widely respected polling organization, released a poll showing that Sanders leads Clinton among African-American voters in Wisconsin by 11 points.

It’s all part of a dramatic national trend that has seen Clinton’s support among nonwhite voters dwindle to well under a third of what it was just a month ago — not nearly enough support to carry her, as it did throughout the Deep South, to future electoral victories in the Midwest and Northeast.

So no, it’s not a coincidence that, in the 18 state primary elections since March 1st, Bernie Sanders has won on Election Day in 12 of them. (That’s right: Bernie won among live and provisional ballots in Arizona, Illinois, and Missouri.)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-abramson/hillary-clintons-support-_b_9579544.html

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
3. The cynic in me says
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 04:45 AM
Apr 2016

that's why they wanted to have the entire South vote up front-- to get in those votes before the inevitable crash-- and try a sumo-like move of oidashi to push Sanders out early.

paulthompson

(2,398 posts)
2. Good article
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 04:36 AM
Apr 2016

Good article, though the author gets a little carried away at times. For instance, Sanders crushing a poll of university students in Kentucky doesn't mean he's going to win Kentucky by a huge margin, it just means he's really popular with university students. We knew that already.

And sadly, it looks like they've stopped counting provisional ballots in Arizona, so the final results there aren't going to change.

But the basic point, that Blacks and Latinos in particular are moving to Sanders in greater numbers, is VERY encouraging!

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
7. Amazing demo of power of social media.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 05:05 AM
Apr 2016

I am well aware of the yuge numbers of young voters at Sanders rallies. I would like to point out that old folks like 74 year old me, with bad knees and using a cane, are not physically capable of attending rallies. As a regular contributor, I got an email last weekend inviting me to Bernie's rally this morning in downtown Pittsburgh. I'd love to have gone, but I used to work in downtown Pgh., still go there on weekends for cultural events, and am well aware of the rush hour traffic and very limited, non-reserved, weekday parking.

I knew that for me to get to that rally (doors opening in the convention center at 7 a.m.) meant leaving my suburban house no later than 6 a.m. and plan on parking across the river at a sports stadium lot, and walking a great distance, including across a bridge, and then standing in line and possibly standing in the crowd for Bernie's talk. That's simply beyond my physical capacity.

HOWEVER, AND THAT SAID, I look at those tens of thousands of enthusiastic, politically involved young voters and firmly believe that they are the way they are, i.e., politically involved, because they come from politically involved families. I have no doubt that they, like the two younger generations of Sanders supporters in my own family, are in regular, fact-filled contact and conversations with their older family members.

So for every young, enthusiastic face I see in a photo of Bernie's rallies, I see 2 more generations of Sanders supporters backing them up and choosing to vote for the future well-being, and SURVIVAL of their children and grandchildren and even great grandchildren.

 

alan2102

(75 posts)
5. Wonderful news!
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 04:51 AM
Apr 2016

To this moment, I've kept my emotions in check. But now, maybe, just maybe, the tide really IS turning, and Hillary -- the Goldwater Girl, still -- really IS losing. At this rate, the Democratic Party is headed toward authentic redemption for those decades during which it had become a wing of the Republicans. The party establishment will have to face the painful readjustment process... of becoming Democrats again. I suspect it will require a lot of antidepressants, anti-anxiety agents, and group therapy.

PS: I have nothing against Hillary personally. I just don't like Republicans, in general.

sorechasm

(631 posts)
10. If by historic collapse, they mean the second time in history, I would agree.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 06:35 AM
Apr 2016

Hillary is running the same failed campaign strategy of 2008 (that includes a lot of mudslinging and a lot of victimization) and somehow expected a different result this time.

The trajectories of her rise and fall are nearly identical. Her trustworthiness has not changed one bit.

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