Tue Apr 19, 2016, 05:20 AM
Kip Humphrey (4,753 posts)
We are about to witness the largest disenfranchisement of registered voters in any state primary
ever.
There will be record numbers of voters claiming to be registered Democrats who are listed as 'Independent' or 'Inactive' for their party affiliation in the new integrated centralized electronic voter registration system, integrated into the state vote tabulation software. A little heeded rules change by the New York Democratic Party has paved the way for the pending debacle. In it, the party revised the rule for terminating party membership due to inactivity - a membership audit rule intended to help keep the voter rolls clean and up-to-date. The rule was revised such that party membership would lapse (and party affiliation changed to, you guessed it, 'Independent' or 'Inactive') if a member did not participate in any two consecutive election cycles, including non-federal, non-state election cycles. There was little publicity surrounding this rule change. Consequently, millions of Democratic voters who voted last in 2012 (like, say Millennials voting for Obama) had their party affiliations switched without notification. Without notification that is unless you had donated to the Hillary campaign or one of her supporting superPACs in which case you received a kindly email or letter from a Hillary PAC notifying you to reset your party affiliation before the October deadline. plus, http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511759392 This day will be interesting.
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Kip Humphrey | Apr 2016 | OP |
EdwardBernays | Apr 2016 | #1 | |
bjo59 | Apr 2016 | #2 | |
Nyan | Apr 2016 | #9 | |
merrily | Apr 2016 | #3 | |
elleng | Apr 2016 | #4 | |
Peace Patriot | Apr 2016 | #5 | |
elleng | Apr 2016 | #6 | |
Nyan | Apr 2016 | #10 | |
lostnfound | Apr 2016 | #7 | |
davidpdx | Apr 2016 | #8 | |
NJCher | Apr 2016 | #11 | |
HereSince1628 | Apr 2016 | #13 | |
Duval | Apr 2016 | #19 | |
Blue Meany | Apr 2016 | #12 | |
mak3cats | Apr 2016 | #14 | |
polichick | Apr 2016 | #15 | |
leftcoastmountains | Apr 2016 | #16 | |
JudyM | Apr 2016 | #17 | |
Rebkeh | Apr 2016 | #18 | |
Kip Humphrey | Apr 2016 | #20 | |
RoccoR5955 | Apr 2016 | #21 | |
mak3cats | Apr 2016 | #22 |
Response to Kip Humphrey (Original post)
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 05:28 AM
EdwardBernays (3,343 posts)
1. wooooooooooot!
Response to Kip Humphrey (Original post)
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 05:31 AM
bjo59 (1,166 posts)
2. I haven't stopped thinking about this all night.
And now here it is, almost 4:30 am, wide awake with a sick feeling in my stomach and a raging headache. This country is so corrupt that I honestly don't think there's any chance to change beer off the highway to self destruction that it's on. Boy, do I hope that I'm wrong.
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Response to bjo59 (Reply #2)
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:06 AM
Nyan (1,192 posts)
9. I hear you...
I also feel like it's either revolution or self-destruction.
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Response to Kip Humphrey (Original post)
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 05:39 AM
merrily (45,251 posts)
3. So tired of corruption.
Response to Kip Humphrey (Original post)
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 05:50 AM
elleng (124,049 posts)
4. Planned for a long time.
Not surprised AT ALL.
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Response to Kip Humphrey (Original post)
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 05:53 AM
Peace Patriot (24,010 posts)
5. This is jaw-dropping corruption! Insane corruption! Completely out-of-control...
corruption!
...the New York Democratic Party ....revised the rule for terminating party membership due to inactivity...such that party membership would lapse (and party affiliation changed to, you guessed it, 'Independent' or 'Inactive') if a member did not participate in any two consecutive election cycles, including non-federal, non-state election cycles. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Response to Peace Patriot (Reply #5)
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 05:58 AM
elleng (124,049 posts)
6. Yes it is.
I had not doubt they'd play such games. After all, bush/rover did, so why not.
![]() Sun's coming up. Heading to bed to shorten my misery. (Optimistic, I know.) |
Response to Peace Patriot (Reply #5)
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:09 AM
Nyan (1,192 posts)
10. It couldn't be more clear.
Obama made a deal in 2008 that it's gonna be her turn 8 years later, and that's why they had DWS as chair of the coronation committee. They've been planning for this for years, and we were in denial as to just how far both parties have been corrupted.
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Response to Kip Humphrey (Original post)
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 06:20 AM
lostnfound (15,720 posts)
7. Where did you find this?? This is huge.
Response to Kip Humphrey (Original post)
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 06:21 AM
davidpdx (22,000 posts)
8. That certainly explains why the changes
I have to wonder if the Democrats in other states did this as well. What about Pennsylvania? Someone needs to look into that pronto (though sadly it may be too late).
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Response to Kip Humphrey (Original post)
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:17 AM
NJCher (33,119 posts)
11. What an outrage
These are Rove-style tactics that I thought I'd never see in the Democratic party.
Well, looks like the old saying of "I didn't leave the ___ Party, it left me," is beginning to apply to me. ![]() Cher |
Response to NJCher (Reply #11)
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:05 AM
HereSince1628 (36,063 posts)
13. I grew up thinking peope were born democrats and that the party always took back strays
That, of course, was a silly thing to think, and life straightened out my understanding.
This rule change is authoritarian and seems just like the back room kaniving behavior we'd expect from DWS & Co. It's a poorly thought out authoritarian application of power to manipulate the primary process. Voters can be expected to react in a typically human way: they will take offense when party rules disenfranchise them, and they'll distance themselves from the thing that hurt them. Nothing screams for change like broadly recognized mistreatment and disaffection. That's not a good thing for a party that's already shrinking. It's especially not good for a party where half the voting base seems to think the organization has gone far astray and needs a political revolution's worth of reform. |
Response to HereSince1628 (Reply #13)
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 03:44 PM
Duval (4,280 posts)
19. I agree, and it's going to shrink even more.
I sure hope DWS and Co do not get away with this. I am furious!
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Response to Kip Humphrey (Original post)
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:47 AM
Blue Meany (1,947 posts)
12. The number of independent voters in New York is mall compared to other states and
in NYC those numbers went down by a few thousand in each borough over the last few months, so I don't think anything could have occured on a mass scale. I did notice the number of inactive Democrats had gone up, however.
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Response to Kip Humphrey (Original post)
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:26 AM
mak3cats (1,573 posts)
14. Do you have a link to this?
I'm a committee member, and I wasn't aware of this. Not to say I don't believe it, but I'd like to see when this was enacted. Thanks!
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Response to Kip Humphrey (Original post)
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:41 AM
polichick (37,151 posts)
15. They don't call it The Clinton Machine for nothing - "The Corrupt Clinton Machine"...
from this day forward.
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Response to Kip Humphrey (Original post)
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:53 AM
leftcoastmountains (2,968 posts)
16. I think it's one of the rules in California
or at least it used to be. I always vote period. No matter how local,
school board stuff, whatever. |
Response to Kip Humphrey (Original post)
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 01:51 PM
JudyM (26,822 posts)
17. So Hillary notified her donors... If her campaign was specifically informed about this change, was
Bernie's also, I wonder?
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Response to Kip Humphrey (Original post)
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 03:44 PM
Kip Humphrey (4,753 posts)
20. some progress...
Response to Kip Humphrey (Original post)
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 03:58 PM
RoccoR5955 (12,471 posts)
21. This used to be the case
if you had not voted in the past presidential race. So they changed it without notifying people. That's insane.
How about the postcard that they mail to you with your voter registration at least once a year? What did it have? They easily could have done it with these "inactive" voters. |
Response to Kip Humphrey (Original post)
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 04:02 PM
mak3cats (1,573 posts)
22. Kip, is there a link supporting the Democratic Party rule change?
I really want to know when this happened. Thanks!
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