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Jerrymooney

(36 posts)
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:29 AM Apr 2016

Political Shenanigans Are Undermining Voter Confidence In The System

Political shenanigans are a historical reality. They have been a part of every democracy because that’s how the lust for power corrupts. But until recently, I’ve had a blind spot, thinking these practices were limited to Republicans and their kind. Nope.

Bernie Sanders is a disruptive candidate and as such has created a real movement that has energized the youth and brought in millions of previously estranged voters to the process. Normally this would seem like a good thing, but it has not been treated as such. The Democratic establishment clearly wants Hillary Clinton to win the nomination and will go to extreme lengths to ensure that outcome.

One tactic used in Philadelphia was omitting Sanders from the ballot completely, requiring Sanders supporters to write him in.

https://twitter.com/247BernieNews/status/724961747111661568

These things combined with voter suppression tactics, like reducing polling places in Arizona and New York despite increases in voter turnout along with counting early voting first and announcing the results created a culture like I’ve never witnessed in my nearly 50 years on this planet. There have long been jokes that there were attempts to affect elections. Slogans like vote early and vote often made fun of the potential for abuse. But this election cycle has brought real corruption to the forefront and those in charge seem unconcerned.

A problem with employing these strategies is that even if they only had marginal effects or no effects at all on the outcome, they allow the narrative to be proffered that the result is tainted and process is corrupt. And by being so blatant about it, it can no longer be talked about tongue in cheek as if it were business as usual. This now resonates as a political hijacking.

These narratives jeopardize participation in democracy because it fosters the sense that it doesn’t matter, the king makers will anoint who they want. Additionally, these tactics are, according to Portland State University, tantamount to white collar crime:

Governmental /state-corporate: activities committed on behalf of governments or by government officials, as well as white collar crimes committed in collusion with a corporate or organizational entity

But we all know that these ‘crimes’ will not be prosecuted. They will be dismissed as error and incompetence instead of manipulation. This plays easily into the hands of the orchestrated narratives that have been telling us who will be the nominee since last summer. In fact, The Peoria Report at George Washington School of Political Management was reporting that Hillary had the nomination locked up back in August. This was before the primary season even began. This casts shade on the shenanigans, because when they are pointed out, it simply looks like Sanders supporters are being sore losers.

Ultimately, these tactics are prevailing. Whether it is actual popular support or the tactics of the establishment's machinery Secretary Clinton took significant steps in winning the nomination yesterday. Unfortunately for all involved, we don’t know how much this is due to sincere broad based enthusiasm or manipulation.

In the previous 10 contests, 8 had been won by Bernie Sanders and the 2 he didn’t win, Arizona and New York, are under investigation. Not only is this disappointing as a Sanders supporter, it is tragic if you had any faith in American democracy or enthusiasm for bringing the youth into the process.

We can’t complain that young people don’t vote and then make their voices irrelevant at the same time. This simply creates a generational disenfranchisement. But the people who are using these tactics aren’t concerned with disenfranchising voters or about the integrity of democracy. They care about power.

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Political Shenanigans Are Undermining Voter Confidence In The System (Original Post) Jerrymooney Apr 2016 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author potisok Apr 2016 #1
Thank you :) Jerrymooney Apr 2016 #4
Tyranny begins with counting the vote. Kip Humphrey Apr 2016 #2
Wonderful post. Add Delaware to your post. PROOF of stolen votes. Lawsuit worthy! Link: in_cog_ni_to Apr 2016 #3
There is no money in it. Downwinder Apr 2016 #7
DEMOCRACY is more important than money. in_cog_ni_to Apr 2016 #10
Ever count the Lawyers in the Legislature or Congress? Downwinder Apr 2016 #13
40 Megaton K&R mindwalker_i Apr 2016 #5
Why GTFO? Jerrymooney Apr 2016 #8
It's a dig at the "call it" posts mindwalker_i Apr 2016 #11
Gotcha Jerrymooney Apr 2016 #14
What is sad, however, is that in a few years the outrage will fade and the whole thing... Binkie The Clown Apr 2016 #6
Don't bank on it. merrily Apr 2016 #9
That's what all us Deaniacs said back in the day. Binkie The Clown Apr 2016 #15
The difference between then and now is Twitter Facebook etc jillan Apr 2016 #17
I'll say it again. Bookmark this and come back in 2 yrs to tell me I was wrong. n/t Binkie The Clown Apr 2016 #20
Dean is a New Democrat, not a change agent and was not in the race very long. merrily Apr 2016 #19
NOPE. The Democratic Party has been exposed. in_cog_ni_to Apr 2016 #12
"Undermining" ? More like "annihilating" !!! My voter confidence = ZERO. agracie Apr 2016 #16
Huge K&R jillan Apr 2016 #18

Response to Jerrymooney (Original post)

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
3. Wonderful post. Add Delaware to your post. PROOF of stolen votes. Lawsuit worthy! Link:
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:40 AM
Apr 2016
https://electionfraud2016.wordpress.com/


Are there no attorneys who want fair elections who could take on this MASSIVE election fraud and voter suppression issue for WE THE PEOPLE? Honestly. They would be heroes if they did.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
10. DEMOCRACY is more important than money.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:22 AM
Apr 2016

THAT, in a nutshell, is what this campaign is about.

There has to be a multimillionaire Bernie supporter who's willing to fund a Nationwide lawsuit! If I had many millions of dollars, I WOULD PAY FOR IT. There has to be another me out there, but with a lot of money.

Or, a people funded lawsuit. If we can fund Bernie, we can fund an attorney.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

Downwinder

(12,869 posts)
13. Ever count the Lawyers in the Legislature or Congress?
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:31 AM
Apr 2016

That's where the money is. They design the system and capitalize on it. The corruption is built in.

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
5. 40 Megaton K&R
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:51 AM
Apr 2016

"Shenanigans" are what Benny Hill did; this is criminal. Remember bullhorn Bill? I used to point out that the parties are NOT the same, but this "election" has mostly disabused me of that notion. There are differences still: the democratic party is the slightly less crazy party, but no less corrupt.

Good post. Now GTFO of here!

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
11. It's a dig at the "call it" posts
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:28 AM
Apr 2016

When that happens, posts not supporting "The Democratic Candidate" will get people banned. What I suspect is that will happen to a lot of people and more will leave voluntarily, because we can't support a candidate who cheated and did so much damage in the general.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
15. That's what all us Deaniacs said back in the day.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:49 AM
Apr 2016

Sure, it looks like a big deal today, but in the long run, it's a ripple, not a tidal wave. Bookmark me and check back in a couple years.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
17. The difference between then and now is Twitter Facebook etc
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:37 PM
Apr 2016

For example look at Monday night when the pro Bernie Facebook groups were under attack. Within one hour if you were online you knew about it.

Dean didn't have that luxury.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
12. NOPE. The Democratic Party has been exposed.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:30 AM
Apr 2016

now we know, for a fact, it's CORRUPT TO THE CORE.

A HUGE, POWERFUL party will grow from this....if Bernie isn't the nominee.

The Democratic party will be lucky to retain 25% of the voters. The Independents will be close to, maybe more than, 50% of the voters. That means Repubs and Democrats split 50% in the next election.

The PEOPLE'S party is coming. Mark my words.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

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