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earthmanneil

(25 posts)
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 02:13 PM Apr 2016

New York Primary Election Stolen & NYC Bd. of Elections Exec. Director Ryan's Apology NOT ACCEPTED!!

Apologies in political life are so easy. Sorry we bombed the crap out of you, Vietnam. Sorry we decimated your country, Iraq. Sorry we let those luxury condo developers displace all that moderate income housing. Sorry we stole that election (oh wait! Never ever admit that one!)! Sorry, Sorry, Sorry. Sorry does nothing now that the damage is done. I contend that the decisive New York primary was very likely thrown for Hillary. Whether the result of criminal negligence or criminal intent, the purging of 120,000+ voters in Brooklyn and poll worker confirmed infractions and errors in other boroughs, decidedly affected the New York primary election result, the very important perception of momentum, and the primaries which have since followed. Hillary's campaign and the Democratic establishment meant to stop Bernie in New York. It looks like they succeeded and will get away with it. City Comptroller Scott Stringer (a Hillary supporter) is investigating, but don't hold your breathe. Mayor deBlasio (a Hillary supporter) has made all the right news-cycle gestures of outrage about it, yet BOE Director Ryan (who makes 200k a year btw) remains in his job. HE NEEDS TO BE IMMEDIATELY SUSPENDED without pay and a grand jury investigation of vote tampering needs to be opened. The damage to the cause of getting a true progressive elected president in 2016 has been irreversibly done, but some of these more egregious Dem Party hacks should see jail time. I know it won't happen just as I suspect that the Stringer investigation will at most turn up charges of incompetence rather than deliberate election fraud. That kind of smoking gun is hard to find; after all, we still merely speculate that the 2000 general election was stolen or that Lyndon Johnson stuffed the ballot boxes for Kennedy. I am not contending that New York City's election fiasco originated directly with Hillary Clinton, but for this Bernie supporter, it adds to the case that HILLARY CLINTON IS AN ILLEGITIMATE CANDIDATE who wins the nomination through a campaign not adverse to using fraud (not to mention being given such huge anti-democratic advantages as massive early super delegate support and closed primaries in key states). She doesn't deserve my support on either policy grounds nor in her campaign's disdain for democracy. In that once in several generations moment, Americans were given a true electoral choice to reclaim their country, but sleazy corporate interests and outright thugs, along with a lot of uncritical voters, have combined to offer us the SORRY choice between Chief Executive Thug, Donald Trump and Hired Corporate Henchwoman, Hillary Clinton. We who support Bernie and his vision for a fairer social democratic society can't and won't give up, but there is legitimate anger and disappointment at what history will judge a colossal missed opportunity at a decisive moment for our nation and the world.

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New York Primary Election Stolen & NYC Bd. of Elections Exec. Director Ryan's Apology NOT ACCEPTED!! (Original Post) earthmanneil Apr 2016 OP
Yo, Earth. I edited your post to make it readable for some of us with compromised eyesight. Wilms Apr 2016 #1
Thanks for the edit. nm rhett o rick Apr 2016 #2
She has not stolen the election yet. One way or another Bernie will be on the ballot. agracie Apr 2016 #3
Thanks! earthmanneil Apr 2016 #6
I called it before it happened italiangirl Apr 2016 #4
I am embarrassed italiangirl Apr 2016 #5
To me, (65 y.o.) it all started to go rotten LiberalElite Apr 2016 #7
 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
1. Yo, Earth. I edited your post to make it readable for some of us with compromised eyesight.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 02:30 PM
Apr 2016

OK. Straight up. PARAGRAPHS help!

Now, back to your program.

Apologies in political life are so easy. Sorry we bombed the crap out of you, Vietnam. Sorry we decimated your country, Iraq. Sorry we let those luxury condo developers displace all that moderate income housing. Sorry we stole that election (oh wait! Never ever admit that one!)! Sorry, Sorry, Sorry. Sorry does nothing now that the damage is done. I contend that the decisive New York primary was very likely thrown for Hillary.

Whether the result of criminal negligence or criminal intent, the purging of 120,000+ voters in Brooklyn and poll worker confirmed infractions and errors in other boroughs, decidedly affected the New York primary election result, the very important perception of momentum, and the primaries which have since followed. Hillary's campaign and the Democratic establishment meant to stop Bernie in New York. It looks like they succeeded and will get away with it.

City Comptroller Scott Stringer (a Hillary supporter) is investigating, but don't hold your breathe. Mayor deBlasio (a Hillary supporter) has made all the right news-cycle gestures of outrage about it, yet BOE Director Ryan (who makes 200k a year btw) remains in his job. HE NEEDS TO BE IMMEDIATELY SUSPENDED without pay and a grand jury investigation of vote tampering needs to be opened.

The damage to the cause of getting a true progressive elected president in 2016 has been irreversibly done, but some of these more egregious Dem Party hacks should see jail time. I know it won't happen just as I suspect that the Stringer investigation will at most turn up charges of incompetence rather than deliberate election fraud. That kind of smoking gun is hard to find; after all, we still merely speculate that the 2000 general election was stolen or that Lyndon Johnson stuffed the ballot boxes for Kennedy.

I am not contending that New York City's election fiasco originated directly with Hillary Clinton, but for this Bernie supporter, it adds to the case that HILLARY CLINTON IS AN ILLEGITIMATE CANDIDATE who wins the nomination through a campaign not adverse to using fraud (not to mention being given such huge anti-democratic advantages as massive early super delegate support and closed primaries in key states). She doesn't deserve my support on either policy grounds nor in her campaign's disdain for democracy.

In that once in several generations moment, Americans were given a true electoral choice to reclaim their country, but sleazy corporate interests and outright thugs, along with a lot of uncritical voters, have combined to offer us the SORRY choice between Chief Executive Thug, Donald Trump and Hired Corporate Henchwoman, Hillary Clinton. We who support Bernie and his vision for a fairer social democratic society can't and won't give up, but there is legitimate anger and disappointment at what history will judge a colossal missed opportunity at a decisive moment for our nation and the world.

italiangirl

(60 posts)
4. I called it before it happened
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 03:00 PM
Apr 2016

I agree with every word you said. I knew it was set-up way before it happened. No one can convince me that Cuomo, DeBlasio, the democratic establishment's and the Clinton machine's didn't plan this to kill the baby in it's crib; to cripple Bernie Sanders in the up-coming elections. They wanted this over in NY to wrap up the election so they could anoint Hillary the presumptive winner. They had it planned that the sheep would follow....and they did. THEY WON THE WAR! What a shame! The United States wanting to engage democracy around the world makes me puke. Maybe it's time for the UN to come to America to oversee our elections for election fraud. Corporate America won this election! They can continue outsourcing their money to foreign countries. Their leader will give them the power with a slap in the wrist. Their corporate greed will deny millions of our youth the opportunity for tuition-free college. I guess that trumps the "first woman president."

italiangirl

(60 posts)
5. I am embarrassed
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 03:14 PM
Apr 2016

I always vowed that I would die a "democrat." I am 85 years old and have been a political activist and street fighter for the democratic party and for every presidential candidate since Bill Clinton. Today the disappointment in the democratic party is profound and I am ashamed and embarrassed to have a "D" behind my name.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
7. To me, (65 y.o.) it all started to go rotten
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:01 PM
Apr 2016

when Bill Clinton was elected. Him and the "new Democrats" and the Democratic Leadership Council took the Party to a hard right turn and left me behind. But as I didn't understand what was happening - I voted for him a second time.
I will not vote for Clinton The Sequel. Lesson learned.

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