Bernie Sanders
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(38,613 posts)Democrats Indiana 83 delegates Delegates May 3 Total
Hillary Clinton 48% 1,663
Bernie Sanders 52% 1,367
Why does Hillary almost always get more delegates, even when she is behind? How does that work?
Pastiche423
(15,406 posts)They were set before the voting started.
-none
(1,884 posts)They should not be included now, as they change their allegiances.
Pastiche423
(15,406 posts)Those are the delegate counts for both of them before the voting started in Indiana.
-none
(1,884 posts)How surprising.... Not, with Debbie DINO working the case.
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)referenced:
1,663
1,367
are not delegates from this State's primary but rather the current total to date prior to the outcome of this one.
(I assume you are referencing the far right column on the NYT page.) Just to the left (the part only blank save for "-" will reference the delegates of this primary after 100% has reported.) and those numbers you listed don't count the Superman voters, that is an issue I raised in the title of my response (you know, the purchased delegates)
As to those other totals, many have come about the same way Republicans got them in 2000 and 2004, via "shenanigans" when actual votes are tabulated incorrectly on corrupted machines (as evidenced in Chicago when a sample to check the validity of machines by checking 5% of the actual paper ballots against how they were tabulated by machine totals they had to erase, or fill in those paper ballots as necessary to make the machines appear correct).
Or Democrats are purged from the Primary rolls (not because they changed from (I) too late as many claim, but due to obvious tampering with the voter roll database.) They tipped their hand when entire neighborhoods were purged from the voter rolls or entire buildings in NYC. Not to mention those like myself who have been registered Democrats (in my case) for 37 years were changed on the computer (and thus the primary rolls at the polling place) to no party affiliation or some even changed to Republican, I didn't expect I could not vote for the first time in my State's Democratic primary in 37 yrs because of election fraud, having missed only one election in 2002 (then only because I was in the hospital and absentee ballots are really fucking hard to use in my State, tons of red tape I didn't expect in time to deal with while being unconscious most of the time in a hospital bed.)
Unexpected because in my over 30 years registered as a Democrat I had never had any problem before this year.
Or other, usually used by Republican methods by voter caging and limiting machines dramatically to disenfranchise and reduce the vote in some places. The usual GOP tactics, now apparently being used by the GOP lite faction of the party. allegedly until someone bothers to prove these self evident actions via an investigation and computer forensics examinations that will never happen. One wonders also about the "vote flipping" on no paper trail machines reported as well, but those machines and software are safe by law from forensic examination because they use sacred corporate proprietary code and appear immune to investigation, whether tampered with by Republicans as usual, or Democrats in what I think is the newest of the Republican policies the party has adapted and made Democratic policies.
Pastiche423
(15,406 posts)Yes, on the NYT page, furtherest column.
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)Just in time to not be able to vote in the NYS primary.
I guess the DNC really does want to shrink the party even further from the current 29% of the population it now "enjoys".
I can still vote in the GE, but because of the law of unintended consequences, since they kicked me out of the party I am no longer bound by party loyalty to take a clothespin with me into the booth if I think the Democratic nominee will work against, rather than for my best interests.
Nothing ever really masked the stench of sulfur coming off of the demons anyway no matter how lesser the demon may have been in the hellish hierarchy.
They gave me the freedom I never would have given myself, I would have voted for the slightly smaller demon had they not banished me from the party simply to keep the corporate money flowing by tipping the scales so much in favor of the weakest candidate as well as the most corrupted.
No more evil for me thanks to them! Lesser or otherwise (and yes, after 37 years of un-returned of late, party loyalty, there is some anger on my part) to vote only for good from now on, even if it means, as it will - each and every slot on my ballot will be judged by their works, their history, and their platform; most will sill be Democrats (at least locally because I already know the players well and who is on my side in my varying levels of district.)
However one or more may simply be left blank, or voted for a zillion to one long-shot that shares my pre-1992 Democratic values as well as my environmental concerns. Unless Bernie wins the nom., then he will be one of the Democrats I vote for.
Pastiche423
(15,406 posts)Were you at least able to get a provisional ballot?
I gave myself permission after the 2004 election to stop voting for the lesser of two evils and it was very freeing!
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)Unfortunately, no matter what anyone tells you provisional ballots or "affidavit" ballots as they are called here are merely placebo votes and are counted so incredibly seldom as to be completely negligible to any outcome of any election, even one as small as school board.
CountAllVotes
(20,868 posts)Go Bernie!!!
Sanders 2016 !!!
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!
JeffHead
(1,186 posts)2,439/5,374 precincts (45.3%) reporting
Bernie Sanders
165,180
52.2%
Hillary Clinton
151,132
47.8%
316,312 total votes
Go Bernie!