A Friend - An Avid Hillary Supporter - Is Now Freaked About Hillary's Chances.....

[global1]

Just talking to a friend that supports Hillary and has for years. She just heard that Kasich will suspend his campaign and called me in a panic. She said with both Kasich and Cruz out and Trump the presumptive nominee of the Repug Party - that it appears that the Party is coalescing around Trump and there will be no contested Repug convention.

She feels the next primary contests on the Dem side favor Bernie and if he sticks in till the convention that that Hillary could be in trouble getting the nomination now. She said she would have felt better if Hillary won Indiana - but it doesn't bode well that she lost and Bernie is still winning these contests.

She felt that as long as the Repugs were in disarray that Hillary would be favored - but now - she's having second thoughts and thinking that Hillary could still lose this. She hates to admit this because she thinks that Hillary can do no wrong - but - the events of the last two days has shaken her confidence. She's freaked out about this.

[grasswire]

1. she should freak

Is she also freaked about the very real possibility that HRC could be indicted this summer? Better bring her up to speed on that.

[Baobab]

11. bernie Sanders is the candidate the people would be comfortable with

Hillary is seen as being forced on the nation.

In the real world, she is a little too cozy with Trump too..

[Jennylynn]

20. Bet they did 'it'.

Look at their faces.

[Ed Suspicious]

26. She looks so perfectly happy here.

[MsFlorida]

2. As she should be.

Hillary is a lousy candidate.

[Skink]

3. Did you tell her to take a look at Bernie?

[global1]

5. I've Been Telling Her That Right Along But I Think In The Back Of Her Mind Is.....

that she wants a woman president and that might be the single motivating factor for her to stick with Hillary.

As an afterthought from my OP - it seems to me that this is also a time for Hillary to get freaked and begin making some bad campaign decisions herself.

[leftcoastmountains]

18. Yeah but Hill is where she is because of her hubby.

She could never have done it on her own. So would she really be the first female
president? I see no reason why any independent woman (not as in party) would
consider her nomination to be earth shaking. Women all over the world become
heads of states due to family connections. Not an accomplishment in my mind.

[hopemountain]

29. stating she is going to bring bill out of retirement

and let him take over is not going to help her image/campaign to be the first female president with feminist women voters - nor the youth vote.

[CoffeeCat]

4. If she's this freaked out about the election dynamics

She must be practically catatonic about the FBI investigation into Clinton's private, unsecured email server on which she conducted all of her State business for four years.

Seriously--That issue is the most critical issue for Democrats, for our entire party--and for Hillary.

[global1]

7. That Hasn't Shaken Her Because Her Fellow Supporters Keep Telling Her That There Is No There....

there.

[CoffeeCat]

8. Well, her fellow supporters

are enabling stupidity and ignorance within the Democratic party.

That's too bad.

Your friend needs to take control of her life and do some basic research. Maybe you could help her!

[Scootaloo]

12. I tend to agree with them

There is no "other shoe" to drop here. She exercised extremely poor judgement and her reasoning points in a bad direction, as far as it speaks of the way she sees and does things.. .but I doubt she did anything that hte FBI is actually going to find interesting. Their investigation is just a "crossing the T's, dotting the I's" kind of thing, as far as I can tell, just confirming that everything's in order, rather than expecting a big bust.

But that doesn't erase the baggage of the situation. She IS under investigation, and that's a weight. She DID exercise terrible judgement, which is more weight. It shows that she has a paranoid personality, and this makes her LOOK guilty whether she is or not - which is more baggage.

She doesn't HAVE to be guilty of anything for this to drag her down.

[Bernin4U]

23. It's called Calculated Risk

You just don't do shit like that for personal convenience. You do it because the potential for gains far outweighs any likely penalty.

Where what she's done fall on the scale between blatantly illegal and ethically questionable may never be known. The best of it had already been tossed into the fireplace. What's left for the FBI to dig up is most likely relatively mild.

Anyone else, and the server is seized in a surprise raid. Not handed over at the suspect's convenience.

It's true that they're likely be very little "there" left. And her supporters will always be there to give her the benefit of the doubt either way.

[magical thyme]

30. Comey initially projected that they'd report in January.

That would have been "confirming everything is in order." It's not like Obama hasn't sent him signals to find nothing and move on.

Instead, the investigation branched out in January from the simple, obvious "gross negligence" to much more complex public corruption with Clinton Foundation. And there may well be other corruption found in those emails as well. Reagan got away with his arms2rebels scheme because he was already President. Just saying...

[Scootaloo]

6. That's what the next several months are going to look like

Hillary's campaign and supporters seem to have no actual plan for campaigning in the GE. There's this assumption that she can just coast along to victory like she's doing in the primary. It's why they worked so hard to burn every possible bridge with Sanders supporters and completely dismiss independents. They really think they can win with nothing but Hillary Clinton's primary votes.

[Else You Are Mad]

9. If Kasich backs out...

Then a lot of independents will flip to Sanders because there is no real need to vote for Trump if he is the only candidate on the GOP side, which could give Sanders the bump he needs to defeat Clinton.

[Baobab]

13. For many independents trade issues are paramount and Hillary is basically the wife of the guy who

is most associated globally with neoliberalism.

They know she's going to trade their jobs away.

So they would rather die than vote for her and the continuation of the Clinton trade agenda.

[restorefreedom]

32. and that is exactly why they are freaking

and want bernie out. she could go into the convention basically tied and with no momentum.

[Else You Are Mad]

35. Bingo. nt

[seekthetruth]

10. Honest, as a Sanders supporter myself...

.....I'm tired of the character attacks on Hillary. It's totally unnecessary.

What is necessary is to pick apart where she stands on the issues, and when the focus is solely on that, then it's so incredibly easy to understand that she is no progressive, and does not represent the views of the progressive agenda.

Sustainable energy resource development, foreign policy, death penalty, education, healthcare, attitudes towards economic issues. She simply stands on the wrong side as far as progressivism.

She needs to be called out for what she stands for.... A neoliberal, moderate platform. Nothing is wrong with standing for that in of itself, but it is not progressive.

[Baobab]

14. she lied to us on health care though.

this is what i am talking about.

[Bernin4U]

25. Character attacks?

How exactly is "character" clearly defined and differentiated from "issues"?

And since when does character not matter? For President of the United States?

Funny, because character usually matters for getting hired to a minimum-wage job.

[Ed Suspicious]

27. Often it's the only thing that matters.

[magical thyme]

31. to me, character matters more than individual issues

A poor character can lie about where they stand on the issues and do what benefits them personally, the hell with the rest of us, afterward.

But somebody with a solid character who happens to stand on the wrong side of an issue can be persuaded by facts to re-think their position. Think Elizabeth Warren. Iirc, she believed the CW that high personal bankruptcy rates were due to deadbeats. When she set out to prove CW, her research proved that high personal bankruptcy rates were due to illness/medical bills and/or job loss. And she changed her position completely and became a champion of reform.

[Punkingal]

34. Character does matter.

Were you around in 1992 when Bill Clinton's character was a topic? We elected him anyway, and look how that turned out. She LIES all the time. I happen to believe she has poor character because of that. I can't recall any democratic candidate who lies as much as she does, except John Edwards lying about his affair. I don't want a liar like that to be President.

[in_cog_ni_to]

15. Bernie is going to be the nominee, so it's good that she's

reality-based, unlike the queen 👑 supporters on DU. Going forward, Bernie is going to win BIG and a lot more delegates.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[leftcoastmountains]

17. Oh well...

Tell your friend Hillary has the establishment and the MSM backing her.
It's still going to be tough for Bernie.

[TexasBushwhacker]

28. And some of the anti-Trumps will vote for her

Trump got 11Million votes. The "not-Trumps" got 14.5Million. Some will vote for him, some will stay home, but some will vote for Hillary.

[Dawgs]

19. She was/is going to lose no matter what.

Doesn't matter what happened on the Republican side.

[Matariki]

21. Schadenfreude

I confess.

[farleftlib]

22. It's hard not to feel it

Her supporters are so smug and have that same sense of entitlement their candidate does.
If they only knew how much worse it will be if she wins, they'd be much better off and we
could show the Dem leadership that they can't shove corporatist hawks at us. I'm tired of
having the choice for voting for the lesser of two evils to become the most powerful person
in the world.

[dana_b]

24. good

tell her to think about coming into the light.

[Babel_17]

33. Without the Republican primary for cheap entertainment

Where can the political press now turn their eyes? They can now ponder why states like Indiana show a rejection of Clinton, and they can muse about what fate has in store for Clinton and her associates who are under investigation. All the wrong publicity for Secretary Clinton, all the wrong attention.