In case we don't win the primary, be prepared:

[silvershadow]

*Note that I have been saying this for months, so they have been warned.

[cantbeserious]

1. The Left Will Always Be The Scapegoat Until We Are No Longer Willing To Play That Game

eom

[merrily]

6. +1

[BillZBubb]

2. That's how it always goes. The people who cause the disaster blame those who warned them.

[HassleCat]

3. They're already cranking up the blame machine.

Bernie's criticisms give Trump more ammunition. Bernie is dragging things out, preventing Hillary from focusing her attention on Trump. Bernie is dividing the party. Bernie is the devil. And so on, ad infinitum.

[TDale313]

4. Oh, of course that will happen.

They've already been making that case in advance.

[merrily]

5. The left has been blamed for everything since John Adams. If the left is not prepared by now,

they need to wake the fuck up.

[LiberalElite]

7. This goes without saying eom

[djean111]

8. Seriously, why do we care? Why would we care?

I cannot think of any group of people whose opinion means less to me.

My mind is made up. I will be voting for the Democrat. Bernie Sanders.

Funny, when I first saw that New Democrat Coalition website, I thought it looked and read almost exactly like Americans for Prosperity. Looks like the Kochs are funding both.

[silvershadow]

9. It wouldn't surprise me. That said, I'm following Sanders' lead. He seems to

understand a lot of big things. Meaning, I will stay with him as long as he is in the party. I will be part of his coalition. If he ever decides to leave, I will cross that bridge when it gets here. I suspect it won't, now, but could be underestimating the forces at work here.

[Hydra]

10. At some point, the party will have to split

HRC is openly inviting Bushco into the tent with us. We're supposed to be ok with that.

[grasswire]

12. How is this not a hostile takeover of the Democratic Party?

It is!

That's precisely what it is.

[stillwaiting]

21. It was a long time ago. They succeeded and they know it.

This primary has opened a lot of eyes. Hopefully these people won't close them soon thereafter.

[djean111]

18. Oh, I am sticking with Bernie. No matter where he goes. If Hillary gets the nom, I am out.

I see too much in-your-face STFU and give us money and vote for the letter "D" stuff down here in Florida. And last year, before they prettied it up for the primaries, that New Democrat Coalition website was quite the eye-opener. It read so much like Americans for Prosperity, it was almost like a parody. And the membership list - senators, Representatives, governors, mayors - DINOs all. And there is a separate group for Senators in Congress, I think. "My" Senator, Bill Nelson, was on the NDC membership list, and now he is gone from the website, but still belongs. Patrick Murphy, DWS, Gwen Graham - all belong, and all vote with the GOP a lot. This is also where I got the inkling that Pelosi does arrange voting - if someone wants to vote with the GOP, but is up for election, Pelosi can determine whether there are enough votes to pass something, so someone can safely vote against it, for example. Like, for instance, Fast Track.

The Third Way has taken over; if Hillary is ever president, she will start right in on their safety-net slashing to-do list. Which, really, will be the Democratic Party's bucket list.

[ablamj]

25. Fuck

Hillary Clinton!!!

[mindwalker_i]

11. That's why there are all the calls for Bernie to drop out

"We've got to focus on Trump!" Nevermind the supreme lack of logic, Trump is Hillary's strawman.

[Lordquinton]

23. We are focusing on Trump

By trying to elect the canadite with the best chance to win.

Actually scratch that, we are focusing on elelecting the best canadite we have seen in a long time, regardless of who else is running.

[mindwalker_i]

29. Bull. Hillary has a worse chance against Trump

You know that. And best candidate in a long time? That depends very much on your definition of, "best."

[Lordquinton]

30. That's what I'm saying

Sanders is the best hope, otherwise we're just trying to turn the heat down a little, instead of taking the kettle off the stove.

[mindwalker_i]

32. Sorry, thought you were supporting Hill

[Lordquinton]

33. No worries

Tempers are running high and it can be hard at times. Especially when they've been working hard to turn us against each other.

[mindwalker_i]

34. Yeah, that's the truth

But Hillary still sucks

[deepestblue]

13. Bernie has a plurality of votes in any GE matchup, indie or not

Wherever he goes, we will go.

The democratic party has become completely corporatist over the last 40 years.

In Bernie We Trust.

President Sanders.

[HereSince1628]

14. Part of our culture is to avoid culpability. It's why children blame thier invisible friends

for things that go wrong.

If Clinton loses there will certainly be narratives created to avoid blaming her campaign for her campaign's failure to get out votes favorable to her.

There's also no chance that if she wins the narrative will include how Sanders supporters were loyal dems who rushed over to lift her vote total.

[ljm2002]

15. No guessing about it...

...it's what they always do.

[winter is coming]

16. They're still blaming Nader for Florida.

The people who voted for other third party candidates? Invisible. The Dems who crossed over to vote for W? Irrelevant. It was Nader that cost us the White House.

And no, I wasn't a Naderite. Never even crossed my mind to vote for him. I just despise the hypocrisy.

[djean111]

19. Yes, they are still blaming Nader - as a setup for blaming Bernie.

I realized it does not matter who they blame. It matters who they shoved at us as a candidate.
It never occurred to them that if some people are given a choice between two shit sandwiches, they will just leave the table and get something else entirely different. That never occurred to them. Hubris. What they have accomplished, IMO, is if Hillary is the Dem candidate, we lose and if Hillary wins the GE, we lose. The only important thing to them is that Hillary must win, and fuck what happens to people afterwards.

And, again, I don't see why I should care who they blame. They are not relevant to anything, at this point.

[TBF]

17. The party leaders will never take responsibility

for their complicity. This time will be a little harder because should Hillary steal the nomination that means the superdelegates ignored all the polls that show he is the better candidate to run against Trump. They are on their own on this one.

[LWolf]

20. That's been a no-brainer all along.

They would have blamed the primary opponent no matter who that opponent turned out to be.

What will never happen: blaming themselves for nominating a candidate with the highest unfavorability in 10 election cycles.

[SHRED]

22. Count on it

[Lordquinton]

24. Clinton's loss will be Clinton's fault

Just like Gore's loss was his own doing.

I mean, technically they are right that not enough voters voted for him, but the reason is because he could not get them too. Clinton will be the same way.

[Kip Humphrey]

26. Just imagine for a moment...

if 1,000,000 turn up at the DWS-DNC convention to demand Bernie continue as an Independent if the convention denies Bernie the nomination. Imagine...
Bernie said, "I will do everything I can to ensure a republicon does not win the White House"

[Jack Rabbit]

27. I think we know that

The simple retort is that Bernie is the stronger candidate against Trump and that the Democratic establishment should not have put their collective thumb on the scales for such a flawed candidate as Hillary Clinton.

It won't be our fault, no matter what they say,

[dana_b]

28. If Hillary loses to Trump, it will be THEIR OWN FAULT

for nominating yet another pro war, anti environment, pro big bank/WS loving corporate/oligarch.

We have the BEST candidate in my lifetime - the most progressive/honest and pro people candidate since FDR - and they want to throw him away. It will be THEIR FAULT entirely if Trump wins the Presidency.

[jillan]

31. And I am going to be the first one to say "I told you so". She is a flawed candidate & I seriously

doubt she can carry the party. She has a 56% unfavorable rating already!

[senz]

35. Exactly. Let's be ready to turn the blame back to where it belongs --

on the worst candidate out there. Her huge unfavorable ratings, her high untrustworthiness, her inability to get a clean win when she had everything stacked in her favor from the get-go. Bad candidate. Can't take a principled stand on anything.

As well as her bull-headed supporters who turn away rather than look at what she is.