The concept of "flipping" Supers- XP in GDP

[SheenaR]

Thoughts? Let me know... It make sense to me, but sometimes lots of things do

I am posting as someone who understands the process. I am aware Supers vote with their state, not at a different time.

What I find so difficult to understand here at DU is this:

For months, when Sanders' supporters bitched about Supers, the Clinton supporters said "That's the rules, too bad" or "Tad Devine created this, complain to him". The Supers, we were told, were designed to make decisions for us and they deserved the status they have been given.

Now, the thought of Supers "changing their mind" is on table for both camps. What is difficult to understand. If I said out loud right now, "I'm voting for X in November", that does NOT bind me to vote for that person and I have the right to vote for whomever I want. Some of these Supers voiced their opinion OVER A YEAR AGO. Why then, (since they are for our betterment and deserve their spot) can they not evaluate the election and vote for the candidate they feel best gives us a chance to win in November?

Subverting the will of the people? That's the whole point we made about Supers from the start and you laughed at us. They are free to vote however they want, regardless of how they publicly stated support previously. THEY have a vote. THEY are not beholden to anyone.

My vote went to my pledged delegates. So did yours. None of our votes will be subverted. And the Supers SHOULD do what YOU all said they should do from the beginning. And that is to choose the candidate that can and will win in November. If that is Clinton in their mind, so be it. But you all laid the rules down that they can do what they want. So if they vote for Sanders at the convention, good for them for seeing the writing on the wall.

And that's why we are still in this to win it. Because we actually WANT to win in November, not because we are "fake Democrats".

Flame away. Thoughtful rant over. At work, and I'm sorry if there are run on sentences.

[silvershadow]

1. Those Supers had NO business whatsoever committing almost two years before the

election. End of story. It simply wouldn't have been possible to determine at that point who all might enter the race. It was premature ejaculation.

[TBF]

2. This process of using super delegates

is just as bad as the rest of the voter sabotage and suppression out there. It needs to go.

[RoccoR5955]

3. Super Delegates who vote for Clinton

shall be primaried by more liberal/progressive folks. Mark my words. If they find this as a threat, and Cannova wins over DWS in Floriduh's primary, perhaps they will take it seriously. Perhaps all Cannova has to do is raise a lot more money than DWS for them to get serious. Perhaps we have to start the process and run someone against someone like Franken in MN, who will vote for Clinton.
We are getting things in order to primary Schumer here in NY.
Then we run a primary against Cuomo again with a more Liberal candidate.
There shall be repercussions should super delegates vote for Clinton, be certain of it.

[libdem4life]

4. I see the Sanders Effect as having coattails, energy and organizing regardless

of who becomes President. The silent majority is starting to awaken. Thank you, Bernie.

[Bob41213]

5. Bernie has definitely tapped into something

No more of the politics as usual.

[libdem4life]

6. Like any major shift, it won't be swift or easy

But it has begun. The Establishment is being "vetted" now, as well.