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grasswire

(50,130 posts)
Fri May 13, 2016, 02:13 PM May 2016

O...............kay.

From the sense of GDP this morning, things are going to hell very fast on DU.

The stages of grief are hitting the Hillaryans.

Denial and anger.

Because they can no longer deny that there is an investigation.

And the drumbeat of evidence that has begun is going to drive them freaking wild. They are lashing out, stacking jury, cussing and insulting, beating up the messengers.

They thought they could tamp this mess down.

So....let's tidy up this clubhouse, order some takeout, and turn up the radio.

Yes, we are witnessing the destruction of the Democratic Party as it was --- destruction by the Clintons. I would like to talk about how we can retain some honor for the party throughout this debacle.

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O...............kay. (Original Post) grasswire May 2016 OP
They could start... Buddyblazon May 2016 #1
Hmmm...suggestion SandersDem May 2016 #2
Yeah! Stuff like ^^^this^^^ Jennylynn May 2016 #4
All of that works for me. dchill May 2016 #26
^^^ That's the ticket!^^^ Plucketeer May 2016 #36
Count me in! nt DiehardLiberal May 2016 #40
The Democratic Party is just fine. If the powers that be would just take the cue from what is highprincipleswork May 2016 #3
To be honest, if they had listened to us from jump they wouldn't silvershadow May 2016 #5
The Party doesn't LISTEN, it TELLS. Maedhros May 2016 #7
DWS, is that you? silvershadow May 2016 #8
I think the wheels are fallin' off HER bus today. grasswire May 2016 #11
Hillary or DWS? dana_b May 2016 #17
DWS grasswire May 2016 #18
lol.. yeah, the Federal Bureau of Inquiries dana_b May 2016 #22
Hillary - the perfect authoritarian centrist candidate... dchill May 2016 #27
If both parties allowed elections to take place in a free and open manner, we would just about LiberalArkie May 2016 #6
This is the Great Houdini Hill... and a miracle is about to happen! yourpaljoey May 2016 #9
your optimism is infectious! grasswire May 2016 #10
We will all go together when we go yourpaljoey May 2016 #13
And you sing, too! nt grasswire May 2016 #14
Pressed into service means bent out of shape :) yourpaljoey May 2016 #15
Is it? Du has been rather nice since I trashed that sucking gut wound of a group Scootaloo May 2016 #12
Glad you said that. I'm here since Feb '01 and I have not seen substantive changes. immoderate May 2016 #30
keep supporting our candidate dana_b May 2016 #16
I'm just going to sit here and smile from ear to ear and in_cog_ni_to May 2016 #19
more butter? grasswire May 2016 #20
POUR-IT-ON! in_cog_ni_to May 2016 #21
Sorry, but that's what they get MissDeeds May 2016 #23
When the Donald reverts to HubertHeaver May 2016 #25
I believe the word is.... dchill May 2016 #29
Everybody has to believe something. HubertHeaver May 2016 #34
I share your belief! dchill May 2016 #35
I see they still make Schmidt's Beer in Philly... dchill May 2016 #37
I wondered what happened. HubertHeaver May 2016 #24
The level of personal rancor is disturbing PJMcK May 2016 #28
The team needs to listen to the people All in it together May 2016 #31
I agree completely PJMcK May 2016 #33
don't take a knife to a gun fight. grasswire May 2016 #41
I don't know if that is so any more. grasswire May 2016 #32
+1 and kick potisok May 2016 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author Matariki May 2016 #38
"It's just a security review" is now an inoperative statement? It really is an investigaton? Babel_17 May 2016 #42
yes, the time is ripe for a revolution hopemountain May 2016 #43
 

Buddyblazon

(3,014 posts)
1. They could start...
Fri May 13, 2016, 02:16 PM
May 2016

by not calling me names for not supporting Hillary. That would go some distance with me.

SandersDem

(592 posts)
2. Hmmm...suggestion
Fri May 13, 2016, 02:16 PM
May 2016

let's re-brand it the "Democratic Socialist Party"

Maybe even redo the logo into something like maybe a blue bird.

Perhaps even clean house at the DNC.

Maybe even nominate Bernie.

You know stuff like that.

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
3. The Democratic Party is just fine. If the powers that be would just take the cue from what is
Fri May 13, 2016, 02:20 PM
May 2016

really happening versus from the tepid, less than successful tactics they have been using to lose (largely) since Reagan, then we'd have a full party, ready to go again.

The time is right, the political opportunity is ripe, all that is needed is the wisdom, the common sense, to take this bull by the horns and ride it roughshod over the disgustingness of Donald Trump.

if they don't seize the reins of Populism and Progressivism that are afoot, Trump will seize them, and they and we will lose.

if they do wise up and seize them, we will win a landslide, because we do Populism better (when we actually do it), and we believe in it more.

Onward!!!!!!!!!

I don't care so much who is in charge, as long as that is OUR RALLYING CRY.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
5. To be honest, if they had listened to us from jump they wouldn't
Fri May 13, 2016, 02:23 PM
May 2016

be in this mess they are in (and, of course we are in by their reckless pursuit of the patently unobtainable). Too bad she did't drop out when the wheels fell of the bus at the first of the year.

dchill

(38,474 posts)
27. Hillary - the perfect authoritarian centrist candidate...
Fri May 13, 2016, 03:23 PM
May 2016

for the authoritarian centrist Democrat Party!

Time for some big changes...

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
6. If both parties allowed elections to take place in a free and open manner, we would just about
Fri May 13, 2016, 02:25 PM
May 2016

always have good people in office. It is the manipulation of the vote to overrule the voters that gives us bad results.

yourpaljoey

(2,166 posts)
9. This is the Great Houdini Hill... and a miracle is about to happen!
Fri May 13, 2016, 02:32 PM
May 2016

(Maybe more than one... however many it takes!)
Let us watch and be... 'amazed'!

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
12. Is it? Du has been rather nice since I trashed that sucking gut wound of a group
Fri May 13, 2016, 02:46 PM
May 2016

But really, when are they not losing their shit over something?

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
30. Glad you said that. I'm here since Feb '01 and I have not seen substantive changes.
Fri May 13, 2016, 03:28 PM
May 2016

There is always turbulence, but no change.

--imm

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
19. I'm just going to sit here and smile from ear to ear and
Fri May 13, 2016, 03:00 PM
May 2016

enjoy the implosion.

No one deserves it more.

I'm going to enjoy every freakin' second of the downfall/their meltdown.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

 

MissDeeds

(7,499 posts)
23. Sorry, but that's what they get
Fri May 13, 2016, 03:12 PM
May 2016

for insisting on nominating a deeply flawed and vulnerable candidate. I'm not surprised they are in panic mode. They better wake the hell up and get behind Bernie, who can actually win this thing, before we have to say "sieg heil" to Herr Trump.

PJMcK

(22,035 posts)
28. The level of personal rancor is disturbing
Fri May 13, 2016, 03:24 PM
May 2016

While I'm understanding of the passions for the two Democratic candidates, the name calling, cursing and nasty sarcasm are unnecessary and just plain rude. These behaviors are tiresome and don't strengthen one's argument or point of view. Ultimately, aren't all of us on DU on the same team?

All in it together

(275 posts)
31. The team needs to listen to the people
Fri May 13, 2016, 03:33 PM
May 2016

And get new leaders like Bernie, please.

If I say it nicely will it help?

PJMcK

(22,035 posts)
33. I agree completely
Fri May 13, 2016, 03:46 PM
May 2016

Our team needs expansion and if we had Democratic Party's officials that were truly interested in our concerns, we would have many more better candidates.

My point is that one's position of argument is weakened considerably by personal attacks and vulgar language.

By the way, your screen name precisely reflects my views.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
41. don't take a knife to a gun fight.
Sat May 14, 2016, 01:21 PM
May 2016

Real Democrats are either going to have to fight FAUX Democrats for the party, or start over.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
32. I don't know if that is so any more.
Fri May 13, 2016, 03:43 PM
May 2016

The candidates not being equal. One is bogged down in corruption unbecoming of a Democrat. The other has no baggage other than a couple of J.C. Penney suitcases with his extra socks and pajamas.

Response to HubertHeaver (Reply #24)

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
42. "It's just a security review" is now an inoperative statement? It really is an investigaton?
Sat May 14, 2016, 01:24 PM
May 2016

''... there is new material; therefore, this is the operative statement. The others are inoperative.''

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
43. yes, the time is ripe for a revolution
Sat May 14, 2016, 04:43 PM
May 2016

because we have no time to waste working with hard hearted and greedy corporations and those who support their exploitation of other human beings - socially & economically - and our planet.

compromise no longer applies when corporate bullying, lying, extortion, corruption, and murder (the industrial, military and pharmaceutical complex) are the m.o. of any party.

the youth and the elders see this so clearly - as do many other courageous and brave citizens. the youth - because they see no future for themselves and any modicum of quality of life; the elders - who may be in their twilight years - desire to leave a lasting legacy of quality of life for generations to come; the brave & courageous citizens who have the energy and experience to settle for nothing less than justice for all.

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