I'm beginning to think that the Nevada Convention

[Blue Meany]

was an orchestrated provocation, perhaps to give the Wasserman-Schultz appointed convention planners a pretext for handling the National Convention in a particular way.

Who has ever heard of a convention in which Roberts rules of Order were suspended and one person was given power to determine the outcome of voice votes--with no counted votes allowed; no motions or points of order were allowed from the floor; where people had their microphones cut-off by the chair when they they deviated from the allowable speech (e.g., like making a motion), when a surrogate for one candidate gave a taunting victory speech in the midst of convention in which there had been multiple denied requests for a recount of delegates.

I don't think this normal party politics. As we saw at the County election, even Hillary supporters were protesting the proceedings, some of them active in local party politics for decades. This, coupled with the provocative letter from the lawyer of the Nevada party's executive committee saying that Bernie supporters arrived at the Convention with a plan to engage in violent behavior in order to sway the election, suggests that something more is going on here than normal intra-party politics. I'm not sure exactly what it is, but it feels to me like they are trying to purge the party, or at least the Convention, of Bernie's supporters and/or to create a narrative of them as disruptive and violent.

But I have to ask myself to what end. Do they want a repeat of 1968? Do they want a third-party, so that the Clinton-wing of the Democratic Party re-allign with moderate Republicans to create a new coalition? They sure as hell don't act like they want us or our votes.

[retrowire]

1. yep.

Let's rile up the Bernie supporters and make them look bad.

[Jackilope]

2. We are seeing truly nasty manipulation

This is definitely a set up.

[cantbeserious]

3. Yes - All A Prelude To Strong-Arm Tactics Planned For Philadelphia - Whither Democracy

Sad that this is what democracy in America has devolved into.

[disillusioned73]

4. Exactly..

"when a surrogate for one candidate gave a taunting victory speech in the midst of convention in which there had been multiple denied requests for a recount of delegates."

I did a search of my own and couldn't figure out why Boxer - a California Sen.(future primary state - wink, wink) with obvious and biased Clinton ties was there in the first place.. anyone know??

[Mike__M]

28. I wondered too. Anyway, It was sure handy

to have someone at hand to play the Respected-and-well-loved-Senator card.

[floriduck]

5. Each day it appears that we are about to have a new party as a result of the deception

of the current party leadership and their supporters.

[HooptieWagon]

6. They're trying to create a justification to purge Sanders delegates from the Convention.

Having a group of people shining a light on your activities makes committing election fraud more difficult. Excluding them altogether is their solution. 1968 all over again....only this time there's plans for a million people in the streets.

[appalachiablue]

49. +1. Reeks.

[FlatBaroque]

7. You observation is valid. And I see a much larger context

Our planetary rulers seem to believe that a reckoning is at hand. They are turning the screws of their power all over the world. The President of Brazil has been removed. The Venezuelan President is again being targeted. They want to turn every place in to Hillary's Honduras. I can surmise they are desperate because their tactics are no longer hidden, but they seem not to care. There is something big happening under the radar and the summer of 2016 is going to to change the course of our civilization.

[glinda]

38. I agree %400 with you. I think it has to do also with

the propaganda to control people with climate change silence to keep people from uprising since shit is hitting the fan in regards to many things. I agree it is big.

[LiberalArkie]

8. The establishment always likes to play games. When ever there is some meeting with the Clinton

supporters Bernie people need to start being calm and collective. May not win but will come out on top.

[MrMickeysMom]

9. K&R

Couldn't agree more.

[stellanoir]

10. Just heard an unbelievably distorted account

of the Nevada Convention.

It was on the hourly news on an alleged "progressive" station and was so thoroughly skewed, emphasizing violence & death threats.

Ughhh

[glinda]

39. NPR?

They are on board the HRC train and the Conservatrain.

[stellanoir]

48. ha

Some now refer to NPR as "nice polite republicans"

This is one of the few commercial progressive stations I stream for Hartmann's show though I live a thousand miles away.

[Bettie]

11. Makes you wonder how far it will go

Will they simply ban delegates who support Sanders from the convention, replacing them with ones who will supporter Clinton?

Given how this has gone and how unwilling the Clinton people are to even acknowledge that Sanders has a sizable number of people who believe in his message, I can see them turning the convention into a "unanimous" thing by simply refusing to admit any delegates who aren't on that page.

I hope I'm wrong, but I don't believe they are even willing to listen to us.

[in_cog_ni_to]

12. They have obviously decided their voter purging, election fraud, evoting machine programming and

voter suppression works better than having actual voters vote! They plan to do the same in the GE, since it has been an absolute MARVEL during the primaries.

They know they can't win the GE legitimately. Independents are NOT going to vote for Clinton. Millennials are NOT going to vote for Clinton. She cannot win in the GE without doing what she has done throughout this primary......CHEAT.

Independents = 43%
Democrats = 29%
Republicans = 26%

AND that 29% Democrat number will PLUMMET after the convention if Bernie isn't the nominee. That 29% will be closer to 20% and NO POLITICAL PARTY CAN WIN ELECTIONS WHEN ONLY 20% OF THE POPULATION SUPPORTS THEM!

I know I'm finished with that sham of a party...if Bernie isn't the nominee and I have been a FAITHFUL Democrat for 42 years. I'll be damned if I support that CORRUPT party if they steal this election from Bernie. Never again will I claim to be a Democrat.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[dana_b]

14. I don't even want to vote for ANY Dems now

seriously - there behavior is so appaling and despicable that I don't want to support their bullshit. I'm done!!

[in_cog_ni_to]

18. I know!

I'll be writing to Dick Durbin very soon. He'll either do the right thing by Bernie at the convention or lose my vote...period. I've had enough of their bullshit dog and pony show.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[dana_b]

19. +1

Barbara Boxer is retiring otherwise I'd vote for "none of the above".

[HooptieWagon]

31. That's where I'm at.

Party has gone rightwing in policy and behavior. I no longer recognize it.

[winter is coming]

13. IMO, it was a venue to inject new vigor and menace into the BernieBro myth.

Bernie supporters are rude, and scary, and (whisper it) violent. No self-respecting superdelegate would ever abandon Hillary for Bernie, even if she is being questioned by the FBI. (Quite possibly this very week.)

[corkhead]

16. That's right, Wendel Potter is a BernieBros.

oh wait!

[dchill]

27. IMO, it's a big strawman to distract...

from the Nevada Convention cheating, AND the Wendell Pierce attack scandal. Neither of those things make the Democratic party OR the HRC Camp look any better than their fictionalized version of the events.

[JudyM]

15. I don't get how it's possible that this result is being allowed to stand.

[winter is coming]

17. Who's going to overturn it? n/t

[dchill]

29. That would come before Nevada's Attorney General...

a Republican. Nevada Democratic Party acts as a charter under state law. I believe once Roberts Rules of Order are chosen for the convention, they attain force of law. That's how legal authority is maintained in party-run elections.

[Vincardog]

20. They are doing the same thing they do with all the fake "polls" Justifying their upcoming theft.

They are creating the narrative that Bernie supporters are "Thugs" and "Gangstas" the dregs of society who deserve it when they rightful authorities turn the dogs, fire hoses, pepper spray, tear gas, national guard, rubber bullets, real bullets on us.

[dreamnightwind]

21. This whole primary has been one huge power play

They're showing their muscle, with a militarized police state to back them up. Bringing us to heel, basically.

The primary will be one ugly fiasco. We need to stay positive and true to what Bernie's campaign is about, then maybe something good can come out of all of this.

The horrible alternatives are spineless submission as the corporations turn us into a fascist superpower, or a marginalized and violent populist insurgency engaging in minor skirmishes with authorities like we see in every other banana republic.

Time to realign and organized the emerging populist angst into a positive force for change. There's amazing energy in the public for this, but it is, at this point, unfocused and divided along corporate-hyped left-right lines when the real lines are top-down.

[SandersDem]

22. We are witnessing a sea change

Very similar to the shift in the Democratic party when the Civil Rights Act was passed in 1964, but not in a good way.

[Blue Meany]

23. I agree and I think the shift may be on

the Repubican side as well. The question is will the Dems have a progressive wing or are they more interested in courting Republican centrists? I'm betting that over time a populist party could win over many of Trump's voters and Bernie's coalition to become a governing majority against the center-right status quo.

[nenagh]

24. Few people in the population actually attend formal meetings & would understand Roberts rules

of Order.

Yours is such an important OP...

Thank you. Hope someone can create an easy to understand format...that is social media friendly...

This was a preplanned attack by the caucus PTB heavies... on Bernie supporters...

to silence them and muzzle his voice.

Just too bad for them, that it was all recorded in living color on video.

But you are right...action/ reaction...preplanned.

[LovingA2andMI]

25. Bingo!!!

That's was it!!

[Boldine]

26. What Happened at the Nevada “Democratic” State Convention?

64 is the number of Bernie Sanders delegates that were not allowed to participate — this is because they were de-certified and denied entry into the convention. I’ll only point out the obvious — that 64 delegates would have been immensely useful for the Sanders-supporters, who were 31 short of Clinton’s suddenly higher delegate count.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511980279


They "powers that be" started voting early.
They literally changed the rules.
Which they then adopted by voice vote,
over very vocal opposition.
They ignored a motion for recount,
and ended the convention against the rules.
In other words: Politics as usual.
​
http://www.berniesandersvideo.com/the-nevada-democratic-convention.html

[LovingA2andMI]

30. Also. just a question....

Has anyone else wondered about the so-called "Sanders Supporter" who "threaten" Roberta Lange? No, REALLY wondered about it.

So, we know David "Throw Anita Hill Under the Bus" Brock, is the man in front and behind the scenes of backdoor trolls and tricks of the #ImWithHer Campaign. Is it below the board to suspect that the "threats" could have came from inside -- instead of - outside in a "let's set this thing up completely" type of way?

Because, why TODAY. No really why TODAY. The Nevada Convention happened on Saturday. Thus, Sunday and Monday continued as normal -- with Sanders Supporters calling out the cheating that happened in Vegas - until TODAY, the SAME DAY of the Oregon and Kentucky Primaries "Her" might lose -- the mysterious "Roberta Lange Call from a pseudo Sanders Supporter" from somewhere in America -- makes all Media outlets --- TODAY!

I don't know about you but, it smells like s**t to me. Cooked up and prepared well in advance.

[bvar22]

33. "it smells like s**t to me"

I hate "Me Too" posts, but
It smells like s**t to ME TOO!

[glinda]

40. Spot on observation. I thought it was a total fabrication.

Even listen to her voice sounds like she is unsure about what she is saying.

[TBF]

32. Test run for Philly -

be ready. They have been trying for awhile to completely clean the left out of the party. It is no secret that the original donors to the Third Way included the Koch Bros. I think they are definitely partnering with mod Repugs - they are interested in strengthening the Oligarchy.

[glinda]

41. Didn't one of them say he liked Hillary basically.

[TBF]

47. Charles Koch gave an endorsement of sorts -

simply said that she might be better than some of the republicans running. Which if you've seen that crew isn't saying much. Here's one article about it - http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/24/politics/charles-koch-hillary-clinton-2016/

[nashville_brook]

35. if this happened at our DEC there would be chaos

[malokvale77]

36. I'm beginning to think the Democratic party,

right along with the GOP, is about to crash and burn.

We The People are angry.

[arendt]

37. Great minds think alike...

This morning I posted Nevada was a pre-planned attempt to provoke a Dean Scream at DKos.

Over there, I was subjected to nothing but insults. My Tip Jar was locked.

Thank you for saying the same thing here.

[glinda]

42. DKos has made no secret of promoting HRC.

I am barely reading anything from them lately.

[JDPriestly]

44. You are right. It was a provocation.

[LovingA2andMI]

45. Left Hillarykos....

A LONG time ago. Not worth a view.

[JDPriestly]

43. K&R. We Bernie supporters need to be very careful of attempts by Hillaryites to

anger us. We have to work very hard to keep our cool.

If we get mad, we lose everything.

[merkins]

46. Would Brock surrogates call in death threats?

Would not surprise me one bit.