Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumThe Moral Of This Story Is: When Liars Lie And Get Caught In Their Lies - By Snopes.com
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WHAT'S TRUE: Video captured during the Nevada Democrats' convention depicts a man briefly picking up a chair before placing it back down without throwing it.
WHAT'S FALSE: Despite extensive YouTube, Periscope, and photographic documentation captured by supporters of both Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders, no available images document anyone's throwing chairs at the Nevada convention.
EXAMPLE: [Collected via e-mail and Twitter, May 2016]
We're there chairs thrown during the chaos at the DNC convention in Nevada ?
Supporters of Senator Bernie Sanders during the Nevada Democratic Partys convention at the Paris Las Vegas Hotel on Saturday.
From Bernie Sanders Supporters, Death Threats Over Delegates
The senators supporters were incensed at a state convention they believe epitomized a rigged political system, with some threatening officials online.
ORIGIN:On 14 May 2016, Democrats held a third-tier convention in Nevada, the events of which were, by all accounts, adversarial. Supporters of Bernie Sanders claimed that rules were adjusted and schedules changed without notice, while supporters of Hillary Clinton claimed Sanders supporters were violent and obstreperous and resorted to throwing chairs.
Much of the initial reporting came from local journalist Jon Ralston, who live-tweeted events as they occurred at the convention on 14 May 2016. While Ralston didn't report at the time that chairs were being thrown at the convention, he later tweeted that:
The chair-throwing claim was repeated across election coverage. In an interview with MSNBC's Chris Matthews and Rachel Maddow, Democratic National Committee chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz repeated, in concert with video footage of a man holding a chair aloft, the refrain that Sanders supporters had been throwing chairs at the convention:
The video shown during that segment was credited to the YouTube account of a "Bud Meyers," but we viewed Meyers' uploaded footage from the 14 May 2016 convention and were unable to locate the clip that included the image credited to him by MSNBC. The only relevant video we could locate on his YouTube account was a clip mocking (rather than confirming) the chair-throwing rumor:
The only intact footage that matched MSNBC's claim and imagery shows a man of unknown affiliation briefly lifting a chair before placing it back down without throwing it....
http://www.snopes.com/did-sanders-supporters-throw-chairs-at-nevada-democratic-convention/
So, is all of the liars: Starting with Jon Ralston, Roberta Lange, DWS, CNN, MSNBC, New York Times, "News" Readers at CNN and MSNBC (you'll know who) will APOLOGIZE to:
1). Bernie Sanders
2). His Nevada Delegates
3). The Chair That Was Never Thrown
4). The Pope (for forgiveness -- for they knew not who they thought would prove their lie FALSE -- Bernie Supporters that is)
5). Anyone in the USA and Around World That Believed Temporarily They Were "non-bias" or "journalists at all"
6). Ohio State Senator and Sanders Surrogate Nina Turner who said on DAY ONE #NoChairWasThrown
7). Whatever else you might like to throw (not being a chair) in...
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)because
we all know that if the media want to destroy someone, they can.
Or at least they can as long as people don't stand up to them.
This chair throwing shit is just the newest version of "John McCain has a black baby" or "Obama's not a Muslim...as far as I know".
And yeah, I'm aware of how low Dean has sunk... it's a damn shame.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)And it appears some cannot stand the lie being exposed. Thus, they needed to be removed from this thread so they can continue in lies and the liars that tell them, hubris.
The rest deserve the truth. Thanks Snopes for doing the JOB the MSM was likely paid, not to do.
femmedem
(8,201 posts)They obviously saw it, and chose to air footage that misrepresented what happened.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)And made a conscious choice to edit that part out. Disgusting liars, period.
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)Seems like this is pretty good documentation of an orchestrated atrocity to me.
Take a good look, and see if you end up defending those who lie or those who tell the truth.
Who you support is important, and how they act is even more important.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)What exactly? It's A-OKAY to lie if the lie achieves the end result --- that turns out was completely an attack on the character of Bernie Sanders, his Nevada Delegates, a Trusted Surrogate Nina Turner and whoever else needed to be threw under the bus, for that LIE.
Are you REALLY saying this ^^^^ above?
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Since being psychic is not a venue held. So, whatever side you are on, it does not matter one iota --- as the LIE from What Happened in Vegas -- has been proven too many times over to count, to be a FLAT OUT LIE.
And Snopes, confirms such.
That's all that matters.
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)that is what they are doing.
Thanks for contributing to me clarifying my remarks.
The dismissive hat-waving, not a high principle.
mak3cats
(1,573 posts)The hat-tipping is a sign of greeting, or respect, not dismissal. I'm sure no offense was meant.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)Nasty and carefully orchestrated liars.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)silvershadow
(10,336 posts)felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)who then NEVER apologize. These people just keep going on as if lying is ayyy okayyyy behavior.
Do you lie to your kids, husband, employer, neighbors too? We're not talking about mini lies but BIG LIES that are basically deal breakers, betrayals that cause divorces and tear up whole communities. Lies like the ones between the Hatfields and the McCoys--that cause great harm.
This is what gets people killed---capitulation caused MILLIONS of lives to be lost in a WAR based on these same slimy, despicable, tyrannical and DANGEROUS LIES.
We don't have to LIKE each other but we can treat each other with common human RESPECT and not LIE. RESPECT means admitting when you are wrong, at least to yourself, which is a place to start--self respect.
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