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Mon May 23, 2016, 06:56 PM

Bernie supporters being proven right

many of us on DU said clinton could lose to trump or she would struggle against him.we we told no no way people will vote Trump
well now polls are showing she could lose to trump.

Polls are also showing there are voters who would vote for bernie in a bernie VS trump matchup but when faced with clinton Vs
Trump would rather see trump instead of clinton win.this doesn't surprise me eather with how this primary has gone with all
the voter fraud and with bernie supporters called every name in the book around here by clinton supporters and elsewhere.and
how both clintons have attacked bernie supporters.while many bernie supporters on DU likely wouldn't vote for trump there are
those who would.

what clinton supporters forget is study shows 17% of clinton primary supporters in 2008 voted for mccain instead of Obama.

Many of us can see Clinton for what she is.her supporters can claim all they want she is liberal and cherrypick her senate votes to
say this but it's not true and we can see it.She moved to right during the primary to attack bernie.yeah she can claim when she has victorys she would take bernie's ideas or claims she goes further than bernie but that isn't true.

Some of us tried to warn people but they dismissed us.

Trump and GOP hasn't even beguin to go full on clinton yet.and they think her numbers will improve?

Dems forget while they can commit voter fraud for primarys and keep bernie supporters out we can vote in GE.

People want change.CLinton isn't it.Attacking those who support bernie who want change.and attacking the candiate of change aren't going to help.what the dem establishment did to try to force clinton as nominee isn't going to make people vote for her.

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Reply Bernie supporters being proven right (Original post)
Robbins May 2016 OP
oldandhappy May 2016 #1
elleng May 2016 #2
Duval May 2016 #3
elleng May 2016 #5
Tal Vez May 2016 #4
HooptieWagon May 2016 #6
tazkcmo May 2016 #7
Robbins May 2016 #10
Tal Vez May 2016 #14
Doctor_J May 2016 #8
Robbins May 2016 #12
Post removed May 2016 #9
Robbins May 2016 #13
malokvale77 May 2016 #15
Android3.14 May 2016 #11
Babel_17 May 2016 #16

Response to Robbins (Original post)

Mon May 23, 2016, 06:59 PM

1. yep. well said. Thanks for stat on clinton folk voting mccain.

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Response to Robbins (Original post)

Mon May 23, 2016, 07:07 PM

2. 'People want change.CLinton isn't it.

Attacking those who support bernie who want change.and attacking the candiate of change aren't going to help.'

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Response to elleng (Reply #2)

Mon May 23, 2016, 07:10 PM

3. You're right.

 

That is going to hurt Hillary even more. It's going to be a long hot summer.

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Response to Duval (Reply #3)

Mon May 23, 2016, 07:12 PM

5. Robbins said it in the OP,

and I think it's worth repeating.

Yes, LONG hot summer.

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Response to Robbins (Original post)

Mon May 23, 2016, 07:12 PM

4. Toward the tail end of the post that begins this thread is the following

sentence: "Dems forget while they can commit voter fraud for primarys and keep bernie supporters out we can vote in GE." That sounds a bit like a threat to vote against Clinton in the general election.

People are going to do what they are going to do. If Clinton loses, it won't be the first time in my life that my candidate lost. However, I remain glad that I voted against Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush Sr., Dole, Bush Jr., McCain and Romney. I will be glad to vote against Trump.

Some of my candidates have lost, but I have never let those losses drive me over the edge emotionally. I really cannot imagine anything that could make me crazy enough to vote for Trump.

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Response to Tal Vez (Reply #4)

Mon May 23, 2016, 07:16 PM

6. The vast majority of Sanders supporters will vote against Trump,...

 

...but that doesn't mean they'll be voting for Clinton.

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Response to Tal Vez (Reply #4)

Mon May 23, 2016, 07:19 PM

7. I'm with you there.

I won't vote for any unqualified candidate, especially ones under investigation by a government agency be it the FBI or the IRS.

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Response to Tal Vez (Reply #4)

Mon May 23, 2016, 07:39 PM

10. let's be clear

I don't support voting trump but there will be some bernie supporters who will do it but i won't bash them.bernie supporters in a
clinton VS Trump will go 5 ways

1:Stay home
2:Hold noise and vote clinton
3;Write in Bernie
4:Vote green
5:Vote Trump

The dem establishment with how they have been acting throughout this primary cut their own throats.many bernie supporters see
clinton as just as bad as trump.the widespread voter fraud and suppression is inferating people.the more MSM tries to swiftboat bernie supporters as establishment did bernie on race and guns isn't going to help Clinton.

some of us said people underestime trump at their preil.Just like i said trump could win nomination i said he could beat Clinton.

I am 42 and have been voting against republicans since i turned 18 in 1992.I was against both bushes.Dole.Mccain,and romney.
This primary has convinced me to pretty much leave party after convention.bernie supporters aren't just independents but include longtime dems like me.Some are even older than me.

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Response to Robbins (Reply #10)

Mon May 23, 2016, 08:00 PM

14. You are undoubtedly correct.

As I said, people are going to do what they are going to do. I'm just an individual who has been around long enough to know what it's like when my candidates don't win and I've been around long enough to arrange my affairs so that I can survive any outcome. Of course, not being young anymore, I am one who will not have to live as long as many others with the consequences of the election of a screwball like Trump. And, I know that he will not succeed in actually doing many of the crazy ideas that he has been proposing in any event.

My only point is that I never permitted electoral disappointments to drive me over the edge emotionally. Do what you think is best. I'll be fine.

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Response to Robbins (Original post)

Mon May 23, 2016, 07:24 PM

8. Clinton will receive fawning media attention in the ge though. People like Charles Koch, for

 

example, will prefer her to a loose canon like trump, and most of the media ownership will as well.

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #8)

Mon May 23, 2016, 07:54 PM

12. Thing with trump

is noone knows what he would really do.he may run to left of clinton on some issues.the clintons past cozy relationship with trump
hurts her ability to attack him.

Trump was once a registed Democrat In New york.this is why some bernie supporters may vote for him.they think he may be more
liberal than clinton and be more a change agent.This is why koch brothers and bush donors like clinton more.they know CLinton is
a corporist and pro-trade deals.Trump may be playing the tea party and racists to win.

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Mon May 23, 2016, 07:59 PM

13. with other dems

I place them in 2 catergrys

1:You endorsed CLinton over bernie and your a corporist and no real liberal/progressive
2:You remained neutrel during the primarys and only supported clinton In GE

I can never forgive those on 1.I can still support in future those on 2.

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Response to Robbins (Reply #13)

Mon May 23, 2016, 08:13 PM

15. If I understand you correctly...

I agree.

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Response to Robbins (Original post)

Mon May 23, 2016, 07:41 PM

11. Looks like Cassandra and Bernie supporters have a lot in common

 

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Response to Robbins (Original post)

Tue May 24, 2016, 04:10 PM

16. Voters still haven't forgiven Wall Street/big banks, and don't trust the trade bill Clinton authored

Yes, she now opposes the deal, though ironically it was the Obama administration that made it less offensive to many after she had left.

Voters still look at Syria and Libya and are aghast. And of course she was compelled to say she regretted the IWR vote.

Wall Street/big banking, trade, and the chaos in parts of the Middle East. Those topics will be on many voters minds in November.

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