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liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
Thu May 26, 2016, 04:56 PM May 2016

They are getting SO desperate!

Anyone seen the new Mother Jones article, "Bernie Sanders Is Switching Teams." ? Its short but definitely not sweet! Some of the most preposterous BULLSHIT I have seen this election cycle and that is saying something!


This is just sad. Trump is the master of modern publicity, and he knows perfectly well that a debate like this would (a) help Trump and (b) hurt Hillary. That's it. That's all it would do. And Bernie is all in.


Its all about Hillary. Hillary, Hillary, Hillary. Because Bernie doesn't have his own Presidential Campaign or anything. Actually, the truth is a debate like this would (a) Help Bernie and (b) make Trump look like an idiot. Period.

More upsetting than the article itself, is seeing DUers share this disgusting hit piece.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1107145932

Please, knock it off!!
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They are getting SO desperate! (Original Post) liberalnarb May 2016 OP
Yep, the trolls in the Clinton group are running with this like it means something. arcane1 May 2016 #1
Its also being spread like wildfire in the GD P liberalnarb May 2016 #2
they are teeming Old Codger May 2016 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author riderinthestorm May 2016 #12
My bad Old Codger May 2016 #15
No worries. Best to avoid drama nt riderinthestorm May 2016 #16
so glad I have 98% of them on ignore dana_b May 2016 #11
I mourned the passing Fairgo May 2016 #3
Television worth watching! ymetca May 2016 #4
absurd assertions betraying nakedly partisan motives GreatGazoo May 2016 #5
There's nothing like good journalism. Bernin4U May 2016 #7
She wanted voters to believe she is the ONLY person capable of taking on the dragon nc4bo May 2016 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #13
That's annoying. I guess I won't read it. leftcoastmountains May 2016 #9
sHillarians are afraid of debate. appal_jack May 2016 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #14
That poster went through a metamorphosis between 2008 and now Art_from_Ark May 2016 #17
Another old-timer said several current Hill fans switched. senz May 2016 #18
I think there may be two camps doing that, for opposite reasons Art_from_Ark May 2016 #19
Okay, the first camp are mindless authoritarian followers. senz May 2016 #20
Wow! If HRC is a foregone conclusion, why is Camp Weathervane panicking? Cooley Hurd May 2016 #21
Kevin Drumm beltanefauve May 2016 #22
 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
1. Yep, the trolls in the Clinton group are running with this like it means something.
Thu May 26, 2016, 04:58 PM
May 2016

Their desperation to for God's sake change the subject is as transparent as it is freakin' hilarious

Response to Old Codger (Reply #6)

Fairgo

(1,571 posts)
3. I mourned the passing
Thu May 26, 2016, 05:00 PM
May 2016

Of mother jones. She used to stand with the Wobblies. Now that's all gone to her head.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
5. absurd assertions betraying nakedly partisan motives
Thu May 26, 2016, 05:34 PM
May 2016

and he includes a homophobic dog whistle in the headline (?)

Bernin4U

(812 posts)
7. There's nothing like good journalism.
Thu May 26, 2016, 05:46 PM
May 2016

And that was nothing like good journalism.

"That's it." Really? Because you say so?

So if Trump is really the "master of modern publicity", are they really suggesting that their strategy against him will be to try to keep him out of the press, as they did so easily with Bernie?

Yeah, good luck with that.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
8. She wanted voters to believe she is the ONLY person capable of taking on the dragon
Thu May 26, 2016, 06:02 PM
May 2016

Now Bernie moved on in. Too bad she left the barn door open else she and Bernie would be debating, as was previously arranged.

But now she's afraid there will be questions about her lack of good judgement not with just emails it with operating her own private server possibly because she was running her own side business while SOS.

Don't want to answer questions? You leave it up to wavering voters to connect their own dots and form their own opinions on how qualified you are or unqualified you are to be potus and cic.

Let the effing chips fall where they may. SHE owns it ALL every drip drip drip.

Response to nc4bo (Reply #8)

leftcoastmountains

(2,968 posts)
9. That's annoying. I guess I won't read it.
Thu May 26, 2016, 06:25 PM
May 2016

I'm disappointed in Mother Jones. I used to subscribe many years ago.
I'm sick of the entire media shoving her down our throats. I don't even have
a damn TV set and it still seeps through!

 

appal_jack

(3,813 posts)
10. sHillarians are afraid of debate.
Thu May 26, 2016, 06:26 PM
May 2016

How many of us are banned from camp Weathervane?

Now Cha is using her personal stomping grounds to call upon Skinner to cease debate across DU well-before the Democratic Convention. All while the drip-drip-drip of State Department and Clinton Foundation scandals grow toward a torrent.

Debate is good. Debate is necessary. If Hillary and her ilk can't handle it, tough cookies. Lead, follow, or get out of the way!

I look forward to the Trump-Sanders debate. Bernie's message could easily peel-away thousands of Trump supporters to a more hopeful and egalitarian, genuinely populist campaign.

-app

Response to appal_jack (Reply #10)

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
18. Another old-timer said several current Hill fans switched.
Fri May 27, 2016, 02:32 AM
May 2016

I wonder what could have happened to them? Everyone knows about a certain "famous" one, but she said there were a number of them, and she* couldn't figure it out either.

*the former owner of the green kitty in my sig line, whom I miss.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
19. I think there may be two camps doing that, for opposite reasons
Fri May 27, 2016, 02:50 AM
May 2016

One camp supports the candidate who appears to be the DNC's favorite, at the expense of all other candidates.
As the 2008 campaign progressed, it became clear that Obama was the favored one, so they dogpiled on Hillary. However, in this primary season, it has been obvious from the outset that Hillary has been the DNC's favorite. So, they undergo an "epiphany" ("I have seen the light!&quot and they dogpile on Bernie.

The other camp supports the candidate who they think might be the weaker one in the general election. I think this is the case for a lot of posters who try to hide the fact that they are far more conservative than liberal. In 2008, I think they perceived Obama as the weaker candidate because of his name, skin color, and lack of experience, among other things. So they dogpiled on Hillary. However, this year, they are "supporting" the candidate who has started out with even more baggage than Tricky Dick and continues to accumulate even more baggage.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
20. Okay, the first camp are mindless authoritarian followers.
Fri May 27, 2016, 03:30 AM
May 2016

Whatever big daddy/mama DNC wants, they want. IOW, half-people. I can see that.

The others that you describe sound like infiltrators trying to defeat the Democrats. There may be such people, but I suspect their numbers are few. I have seen some fake "Bernie supporters" out there. I've noticed a LOT of rightwing ideology on the Hill side but assumed they like Hill because she is so very, very rightwing herself -- ideologically (corporate power, imperialism, the 1%) and psychologically -- no empathy, no conscience, greedy, narcissisic, etc.

One thing that always strikes me as phony is how many of them play the race or gender card in a way that never seems sincere. That's something I don't understand. It should be a given that Democrats are not racist and sexist. To keep screaming about it is weird. To accuse Bernie of it is despicable; the ones that do that are the lowest, phoniest, most untrustworthy of the bunch.

Anyway, I can see your first group but am not sure about the second. Guess I'll have to watch them more closely.

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
21. Wow! If HRC is a foregone conclusion, why is Camp Weathervane panicking?
Fri May 27, 2016, 06:47 AM
May 2016

Posting the article like it's a news story (when it's a opinion piece) is pretty desperate.

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