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leftcoastmountains

(2,968 posts)
Fri May 27, 2016, 12:04 AM May 2016

Sanders angers Democrats with Trump debate ploy 'It's bullshit,' says one Democratic senator.

For some Democrats, Bernie Sanders’ latest gambit — challenging Donald Trump to a debate to cap all debates — is the last straw.

“Bullshit,” said Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia. “That confirms what we’ve been saying. Why would you expect Bernie should be considerate or be nice or be working to bring everyone together? Why? He’s not a Democrat.”

The party’s frustrations are boiling over with Sanders as the primary season winds down: Namely that Sanders seems unwilling or unable to admit that Hillary Clinton is on course for the nomination. The ire toward Sanders began earlier this year among the loudest Democratic cheerleaders for Clinton — and now it’s seeping into nearly the entire Senate Democratic caucus.


http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/bernie-sanders-donald-trump-debate-backlash-223625

As far as I'm concerned they brought this on themselves! As we all know the DNC has been horrible to Bernie along with MSM (of course)
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Sanders angers Democrats with Trump debate ploy 'It's bullshit,' says one Democratic senator. (Original Post) leftcoastmountains May 2016 OP
That's what happens when Kabuki actors meet a real Samurai nt Xipe Totec May 2016 #1
I like that pmorlan1 May 2016 #2
LOL Art_from_Ark May 2016 #4
great description! bbgrunt May 2016 #13
HA! nt nc4bo May 2016 #25
That's just poetic. n/t Jester Messiah May 2016 #30
Ha! Duval May 2016 #35
Wait, am I supposed to give a flying fuck what Joe Manchin thinks? Scootaloo May 2016 #3
A DINO among DINOs Art_from_Ark May 2016 #5
He's really something. Scootaloo May 2016 #7
Yep, fuck him. Fantastic Anarchist May 2016 #34
the third way hillary supporters are coming unhinged restorefreedom May 2016 #38
Omg. Joe Manchin doesn't like it??? Who the hell cares what he likes? Peregrine Took May 2016 #6
This Joe Manchin? Ned_Devine May 2016 #8
Thanks I didn't know who he was. leftcoastmountains May 2016 #11
He's considered to be the most conservative Democrat in the Senate Art_from_Ark May 2016 #14
THIS Joe Manchin? "Centrist Democrats: We can work with President Trump" MisterP May 2016 #37
Joe who? Nyan May 2016 #9
I think the whole situation is hilarious. oldandhappy May 2016 #10
I wouldn't be surprised at all if Trump chose Manchin for his VP, and Zorra May 2016 #12
It would be like Zell Miller agreeing to speak at the Republican National Convention Art_from_Ark May 2016 #15
Had cClinton agreed to a debate, this whole thing wouldn't have happened. n/t eridani May 2016 #16
Pissing off all the right people dreamnightwind May 2016 #17
bernie's intentions are good hopemountain May 2016 #18
"Not working together" with democrats? no_hypocrisy May 2016 #19
Iowa, Nevada, Massachusetts, Illinois, Mo, AZ, Kentucky, Wisconsin, SC Election Fraud, in_cog_ni_to May 2016 #20
Manchin can eat shit and bark at the moon. Who cares what he thinks. Autumn May 2016 #21
When Bernie wins the nomination, Manchin will probably support Trump. Fuddnik May 2016 #28
Manchin has more in common with Trump than he does with Bernie . Autumn May 2016 #32
The irony of Joe Munchkin bitching about someone not being a Democrat makes me laugh... truebrit71 May 2016 #22
If he says it's bullshit then LiberalElite May 2016 #23
K & R nt findrskeep May 2016 #24
Why? He’s not a Democrat.” ---Manchin is an expert on that I suppose.... Mohammed_Lee May 2016 #26
YES HE IS!!!! It says so on the little card he carries dorkzilla May 2016 #29
Manchin accusing Sanders of not being a Democrat is ironic. blackspade May 2016 #27
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #31
Oh man! Now I'm not sure! tazkcmo May 2016 #33
K&R Duval May 2016 #36

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
34. Yep, fuck him.
Fri May 27, 2016, 09:56 AM
May 2016

Saw last night that Howard Dean is delighted to have this. Sees upside for both Sanders and Clinton.

Manchin is just being his usual asshole self.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
38. the third way hillary supporters are coming unhinged
Fri May 27, 2016, 01:27 PM
May 2016

we should be prepared for more. but like you, i don't give a shit


oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
10. I think the whole situation is hilarious.
Fri May 27, 2016, 12:26 AM
May 2016

Considerate and nice?? A well trained puppy? After the not considerate and nice from these same people? They have forgotten what can happen with social media. I'll give you clinton and wait for the wailing when trump starts on her.

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
18. bernie's intentions are good
Fri May 27, 2016, 04:38 AM
May 2016

and there will be a great outcome from all of it - trust the process of intentions with integrity and good behind them.

no_hypocrisy

(46,080 posts)
19. "Not working together" with democrats?
Fri May 27, 2016, 07:01 AM
May 2016

That's myopic.

The potential for Bernie to weaken, if not decommission, Trump is a good thing.

Joseph Welch stopped Joe McCarthy in his tracks with one simple rhetorical sentence, "Senator, at long last, have you no decency?". McCarthy didn't see it coming, didn't realize its impact. And he was gone quickly.

Bernie is not one of the feckless republican primary candidates. Trust me, Trump can't outshout his way to win this debate.

Alternatively, even HRC gets the nomination, there will be a debate model for her to use (Trump against a democrat).

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
20. Iowa, Nevada, Massachusetts, Illinois, Mo, AZ, Kentucky, Wisconsin, SC Election Fraud,
Fri May 27, 2016, 07:18 AM
May 2016

Voter Suppression, Flipped voter registrations and Evoting Machine reprogramming - Debates scheduled by DWS to help Clinton, Bernie's DNC data files blocked by DWS, Hillary Victory fund money laundered through the DNC, Bernie's Nevada delegates stolen by the State Dem party, Barbara Boxer flipping off Nevada Bernie supporters, Clinton reneging on her promise to debate in California - and they DARE to have the nerve to be angry at Bernie for playing better chess than they do? Check Mate aholes!

Besides that, The Queen 👑 isn't going to survive her latest scandal. She WILL BE INDICTED. Doesn't Manchin watch the news?

The Dem Party is IMPLODING and Bernie WILL BE the nominee.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
22. The irony of Joe Munchkin bitching about someone not being a Democrat makes me laugh...
Fri May 27, 2016, 07:35 AM
May 2016

He, of all people, should not be throwing that particular stone around....fucking Republican DINO that he is...

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
27. Manchin accusing Sanders of not being a Democrat is ironic.
Fri May 27, 2016, 08:56 AM
May 2016

Given that Manchin is a closet Trump supporter and a DINO.
Asshole.

Response to leftcoastmountains (Original post)

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
33. Oh man! Now I'm not sure!
Fri May 27, 2016, 09:15 AM
May 2016

I was in total agreement that Sen Sanders should forget about the Trump debate but now that it's pissing off entrenched Democrats that have been supporting the 1% I'm not so sure!

I do think that having Sen Sanders debate Trump, Sen Sanders can "shield" Sec Clinton from further damage and the mud flinging that Trump will employ. Sen Sanders can make the Democratic case that Trump is NOT the answer to our problems (Yes! Problems. Not "issues" or "Opportunities" but Problems!) while the Democratic party is. In other words, he can become the point man for the party in the GE.

I also think there's very little upside for Sen Sanders in this which makes me think he knows what he's doing. He may already be thinking in these terms. I can't really see any other GOOD reason for Sen Sanders doing this.

Thoughts?

 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
36. K&R
Fri May 27, 2016, 10:37 AM
May 2016

This is getting very interesting. So, some Dems are expressing anger over a potential debate between The Donald and Bernie? What on earth are they afraid of? Oh, never mind.

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