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We learned today our voices will soon be silenced at DU = a perfect time to post this. (Original Post) jillan May 2016 OP
... warrprayer Jun 2016 #1
I would suggest if the owners of the sewer, Discussionist feels that roguevalley Jun 2016 #21
That really it me. Thanks for posting. BigBearJohn Jun 2016 #2
...!100++++ 840high Jun 2016 #3
what is the day SandersDem Jun 2016 #4
looks like they said the 16th dana_b Jun 2016 #7
What's UPP? LovingA2andMI Jun 2016 #26
UPP SandersDem Jun 2016 #37
Thanks. I didn't know, either. Duval Jun 2016 #71
Thanks for the link... Rockyj Jun 2016 #77
What is the UPP? bkkyosemite Jun 2016 #59
DailyKos was much more draconian, here's where many ended up jfern Jun 2016 #81
When will we be silenced? nt TBF Jun 2016 #5
As soon as they can manage it! Hydra Jun 2016 #10
June 16 - I had to dig but it's right here TBF Jun 2016 #36
Ah, Sam. pangaia Jun 2016 #6
well I will be leaving right after our primary on the 7th dana_b Jun 2016 #8
I'm going at the same time davidpdx Jun 2016 #75
yep! You're in Portland? dana_b Jun 2016 #79
No, I'm in South Korea davidpdx Jun 2016 #82
Ridiculous and sad. The convention is in JULY. Land of Enchantment Jun 2016 #9
Shoutout to everyone who fought the good fight here Hydra Jun 2016 #11
We'll just pack our bags and move. jillan Jun 2016 #12
Heavens to Murgatroyd! Berners silenced... snagglepuss Jun 2016 #15
I think I understand how you feel but respectfully disgree with the sentiments shireen Jun 2016 #13
I won't vote for Trump, that's for sure. But I live in Az so I do have the opportunity to jillan Jun 2016 #14
Thankfully I don't have to vote for her. I don't think I could do it even if I were in a non-safe cui bono Jun 2016 #18
I live in VA TrueDemVA Jun 2016 #27
I can't do it anymore either - the cognitive dissonance is too much LiberalElite Jun 2016 #28
For a second I thought I was reading my own post. lagomorph777 Jun 2016 #54
I LITERALLY don't know anyone who is... dchill Jun 2016 #60
We just moved to Florida and she won't have the vote of my wife or myself. Matt_in_STL Jun 2016 #38
My husband and I aren't voting for her either MissDeeds Jun 2016 #41
Six in my family aren't voting for her either. in_cog_ni_to Jun 2016 #43
Exactly MissDeeds Jun 2016 #73
My husband and I won't be voting for her either... findrskeep Jun 2016 #66
Hillary is apples and Bernie is oranges.... bkkyosemite Jun 2016 #61
What would happen here felix_numinous Jun 2016 #16
What would be awesome is if we are silenced - prematurely, I might add since the convention isn't cui bono Jun 2016 #17
The convention is July 25-28 nt LiberalElite Jun 2016 #30
Oops. Thanks! Was thinking of June 7 when I get to vote FOR Bernie!!! cui bono Jun 2016 #45
Silenced? Left Coast2020 Jun 2016 #19
Read the link I posted in the OP. We are being told to fall in line. jillan Jun 2016 #20
Bernie Sanders continues to state it will be a CONTESTED CONVENTION deepestblue Jun 2016 #22
I think so, too. nt IdaBriggs Jun 2016 #49
There is no way in hell I will ever vote for Hillary. Scruffy1 Jun 2016 #23
Sell the god damn house and leave the USA is where my mind is at too. bjo59 Jun 2016 #24
^^^^THIS^^^^ LiberalElite Jun 2016 #31
Hillary will corrupt the party beyond redemption. The only hope is for... AZ Progressive Jun 2016 #53
You think Hillary will corrupt the party? hollysmom Jun 2016 #67
Its already corrupt, but she's taking it to new depths AZ Progressive Jun 2016 #72
This message was self-deleted by its author deepestblue Jun 2016 #25
Imagine this... Peace Patriot Jun 2016 #29
What an INCREDIBLE post! Didn't know I'd need my hankie when snagglepuss Jun 2016 #40
YES!! findrskeep Jun 2016 #65
I just posted on ATA - what's the policy on pro-rated refunds? - but the more important question is LiberalElite Jun 2016 #32
All 12 of them will spend their time truebluegreen Jun 2016 #76
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #33
I LOLd Califonz Jun 2016 #34
K&R Scuba Jun 2016 #35
Get it out of our system DI Freighter Watcher Jun 2016 #39
The convention isn't until July 25th. No nominee is chosen until then. Super Delegates don't vote in_cog_ni_to Jun 2016 #42
In support jpmonk91 Jun 2016 #44
Yay! Thank you jillan! Good on you! KPN Jun 2016 #46
and pro-Bernie threads generally get more recs than pro-Hillary threads nilram Jun 2016 #47
So DU is calling it now? Just like MSNBC? Lifelong Protester Jun 2016 #48
More like how Rove was desperate to call Ohio for Romney in 2012. Ikonoklast Jun 2016 #78
Yep. Lifelong Protester Jun 2016 #89
I'm definitely leaving DU by then AZ Progressive Jun 2016 #50
Silencing those who don't follow the party line avebury Jun 2016 #51
June 16th - the day DU and the Democratic party... dchill Jun 2016 #52
The party has been shrinking rapidly since 2010 AZ Progressive Jun 2016 #55
Soon... dchill Jun 2016 #57
so does that mean no candidate can be criticized? hollysmom Jun 2016 #56
That's why we're "discussing" this malodorous policy. dchill Jun 2016 #58
So, I guess on June 16 I will finally get to speak my mind about what I really think. [n/t] Maedhros Jun 2016 #62
Anyone remember when censorship was a Republican thing? AZ Progressive Jun 2016 #63
I remember, and it still is. -none Jun 2016 #70
Just a suggestion - DI Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2016 #64
NO just NO azurnoir Jun 2016 #83
Time to fid a new home? BerniecraticUnderground.com Pryderi Jun 2016 #68
censorship is not american undergroundpanther Jun 2016 #69
Skinner should also have announced that after LibDemAlways Jun 2016 #74
DU has changed as has it's needs and focus IMO Skinner is prepared and possibly wants a mass exodus azurnoir Jun 2016 #84
I disagree. Skinner gave some DU members amnesty because he has read the writing on the wall. Major Hogwash Jun 2016 #85
Has there ever been a Democratic candidate for POTUS that was under FBI investigation azurnoir Jun 2016 #86
What will happen to this Bernie group? Will it be shut down on the 16th? totodeinhere Jun 2016 #80
Haha! I x-posted your graphic in GDP and it was hidden. Lodestar Jun 2016 #87
And I was *Shocked* that mine wasn't. jillan Jun 2016 #88

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
21. I would suggest if the owners of the sewer, Discussionist feels that
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 02:07 AM
Jun 2016

DU is too delicate to have free wheeling discussions and turn people out that you demand a FULL refund of any money you paid to this site for its upkeep. Don't go without your money because apparently, your money is welcome even if you aren't.

Rockyj

(538 posts)
77. Thanks for the link...
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 09:35 PM
Jun 2016

Its a sad day when the democratic party has gone so far right and against democracy that they're in denial.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
8. well I will be leaving right after our primary on the 7th
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 12:14 AM
Jun 2016

no sense in sticking around after that.

If anyone else wants to head to JPR, I'll see you there!

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
11. Shoutout to everyone who fought the good fight here
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 12:18 AM
Jun 2016

But as we've all said, we aren't going away. The fight for a better party will not be interrupted, even for a coronation.

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
15. Heavens to Murgatroyd! Berners silenced...
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 12:39 AM
Jun 2016

never thought DU would be doing this. Snagglepuss so disheartened. Exit stage left.

shireen

(8,333 posts)
13. I think I understand how you feel but respectfully disgree with the sentiments
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 12:23 AM
Jun 2016

I'm not a fan of Hillary, but I will vote for her for the simple reason that a Republican president would be disastrous.

Bernie will always be the person I look to for leadership, and if he does not win the nomination, I'll continue to be part of his movement.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
14. I won't vote for Trump, that's for sure. But I live in Az so I do have the opportunity to
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 12:28 AM
Jun 2016

vote my conscience this year.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
18. Thankfully I don't have to vote for her. I don't think I could do it even if I were in a non-safe
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 01:29 AM
Jun 2016

state. If I wanted corruption and Republican policy I would join the Republican Party.

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TrueDemVA

(250 posts)
27. I live in VA
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 05:57 AM
Jun 2016

And I won't be voting for her. I can't vote for the lesser of two evils anymore. I have never voted for anyone but democrats, but if she is the nominee, I can't do it. At what point do we stop rewarding DINOs with our votes.

I won't be voting for Trump either. I already know people will argue that not voting for Hillary is a vote for Trump, but that's bullshit. It's voting against both of the corrupt and dangerous candidates offered up by two sold-out parties.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
28. I can't do it anymore either - the cognitive dissonance is too much
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 06:38 AM
Jun 2016

To paraphrase Bob Dylan - how many elections do we have to vote for Their choice before we get to vote for OURS? The truth is, a vote for Her is a vote for Trump.

I'm in a "safe" state - for Her. I won't vote for Trump (see that Hillarian snoopers and Brock lurkers? Sorry to ruin your narrative.) and I won't vote for Her. I WILL write in Bernie if it comes to that. The Clintons and the DNC own the coming (continuing?) exodus of moderates and left wing Dems. They'll have their right-wing "Democrat" party all to themselves. They think we have no where to go? I'm goin' to Indyland and they can go to Hell.

 

Matt_in_STL

(1,446 posts)
38. We just moved to Florida and she won't have the vote of my wife or myself.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 08:34 AM
Jun 2016

As a bonus though, we do get to vote against DWS and I couldn't be more excited about that.

 

MissDeeds

(7,499 posts)
41. My husband and I aren't voting for her either
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 10:56 AM
Jun 2016

We live in a red state, so it probably doesn't matter, but there is no way I could endorse her.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
43. Six in my family aren't voting for her either.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 11:45 AM
Jun 2016

Voting for her would be voting for EVERYTHING we abhor.

She will not be the nominee anyway. The FBI is going to recommend indictment.

Bernie will be the nominee. PLUS, he's going to kick her corrupt arse in California, ND, SD, MONTANA, and NM....and maybe Puerto Rico. June 7 is going to be The Queen's 👑 Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day!


PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

 

MissDeeds

(7,499 posts)
73. Exactly
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 07:38 PM
Jun 2016

Voting for her would be voting for everything I abhor . I will never vote for this toxic, corrupt neocon candidate. She is the epitome of everything I despise. We can and must do better.

findrskeep

(713 posts)
66. My husband and I won't be voting for her either...
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 04:48 PM
Jun 2016

we had reluctantly planned on voting for her if Bernie wasn't the nominee, but with the way she's conducted herself throughout the primaries, and now with the email scandal that only proves how dishonest we suspected she was anyway, there's just no way. Not in good conscience. The only way to stop getting more of the same is to stop participating in it.

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
16. What would happen here
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 01:04 AM
Jun 2016

if she's indicted? Just shift loyalties and rhetoric to whoever is the DNC vetted replacement? It just doesn't feel very democratic.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
17. What would be awesome is if we are silenced - prematurely, I might add since the convention isn't
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 01:28 AM
Jun 2016

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until July 25 and no one will have clinched the nomination before then - and then Hillary has to bow out.

Who will be posting here then? Well maybe the ones on payroll will be.

What a fucking joke this site is. It was only really good while Bush was in office. After that we saw how many people were really just idol worshippers who actually didn't care about policy at all. Or maybe they do, but they like corporatist Republican policy because they defend them at every turn. Defending the TPP is fine on DU but... oh whatever. I might do my flame out soon...

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cui bono

(19,926 posts)
45. Oops. Thanks! Was thinking of June 7 when I get to vote FOR Bernie!!!
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 12:27 PM
Jun 2016

So excited!!!

FEEL THE BERN!!!


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jillan

(39,451 posts)
20. Read the link I posted in the OP. We are being told to fall in line.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 01:59 AM
Jun 2016

And get behind her because the primary is over.

Forward March! Turn Right. March!


deepestblue

(349 posts)
22. Bernie Sanders continues to state it will be a CONTESTED CONVENTION
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 02:43 AM
Jun 2016

Until he says otherwise, that's what it's going to be. Just as has happened many many times in the past. No amount of media manipulation or heads in the sand will change the facts, or the truth. And imo he will most likely emerge from the convention as the dem. nominee.

Scruffy1

(3,239 posts)
23. There is no way in hell I will ever vote for Hillary.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 03:18 AM
Jun 2016

I very rarely post on DU but read posts every day. It's been my preferred web site for many years. I have learned a lot on DU.
Great people for the most part but lately it's been pretty much taken over by the Hillary supporters. The whole political scene in America has become a farce. If America succumbs to Trump they deserve it. All I've ever heard from Hillary supporters is "experience". . I'm thinking experience at fucking us. Besides, being a student of history I know that James Buchanan had the most experience of any American president and is considered one of the worst, if not the worst.
The present Democratic Party is the Republican Party reheated with a few allowances for progress that doesn't cost anything. We can have a black Republican, a gay republican, or a woman Republican. We will still be fucked. I have worked for over 50 years and am old and crippled from it, but that doesn't bother me too much. What really bothers me as how many "Democrats" are so willing to toe the Republican line. I went door to door for Obama and brought in my precinct at over 80%. I was precinct captain for Bernie and brought in at 84%. I have yet to see a hillary sign. I'm sick of hearing she's inevitable This is a blue collar immigrant community, which has been an immigrant community for over 100 years. Polack, Russian, German, Irish, Mexican, African American, African, Muslim ,Catholic, Protestant, Palestinian, and me the Jewboy Cowboy.
A few days ago I ran into a transgender friend of mine who supports Hillary. While I respect her, she's also a dentist and makes good money. The parting line with me is the Iraqi War vote and the speech for same. I guess if you are doing well and don't give a flying fuck about anything else, she' your gal, not mine.
Fuck it. it's time to sell the goddamn house and leave the USA.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
53. Hillary will corrupt the party beyond redemption. The only hope is for...
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 03:57 PM
Jun 2016

Bernie Democrats to fight back a la resistance like the Tea Party.

Seriously though, I am seriously demoralized at America being a nation full of chumps and being run by a, quite frankly, culture and system that is mad.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
67. You think Hillary will corrupt the party?
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 05:13 PM
Jun 2016

too late for that, she is just a reflection of what the party is becoming - Obviously D W-S wouldn't be runing things if the fix was not in and the fact that things did not go as planned shows that money can't buy everything ....... quickly anyway,
I have been unhappy with the candidates in my state, they don't even try anymore - Booker is owned by the charter school groups and party rules. I have a republican congressmen because of some gentlemen's agreement, the democrat barely ran.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
72. Its already corrupt, but she's taking it to new depths
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 07:37 PM
Jun 2016

including forcing everyone to have to approve of violating national security and possibly even vote for a potential felon, thus approving of outright criminal activity.

Response to jillan (Original post)

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
29. Imagine this...
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 06:39 AM
Jun 2016

Bernie Sanders demolishes Hillary Clinton in California (and, frankly, with TWO MILLION new registered voters in California, most of them young, most registered Democratic, it IS more than possible), throwing the convention into tumult, whatever sour old New Jersey does, and DOUBT prevails at the convention, and Clinton keeps plummeting in match-ups with Trump (which she is now losing) and Bernie keeps demolishing Trump in all polls, like he's been doing since January, and some of our benighted Democratic leaders who endorsed Clinton before they knew there was a Bern...hesitate, stop, look around, think about 20,000+ people cheering at rally after rally, think about downticket races, think...

...and one cracks, and then another, and, not even counting the FBI investigation, just thinking about Trump quoting the John Kerry State Department OIG report, the flood begins...

...and Bernie wins the nomination!

Now, think about DU and what it would be like with Bernie Sanders as the nominee. No Heathers, no bullies, no idiots, nobody paid by the comment, all heartful volunteers, researching, informing people, thrashing out the election issues with abandon, working on all the public policy details of all the things that will make peoples' lives better, criticizing Bernie openly (he can take it!), open-minded, open-hearted, well-informed, vigorous discussion of everything that's on the minds of the American people but never gets covered by the Corrupt Media, with organizing threads of how to get things done in Washington DC, furious activity to elect all the downticket Bernie people who are running, and everyone else who shows any sign of wanting to turn away from corporatism and war...

Oh, my, my, my would we have fun being the liveliest place on the political internet, being a genuine democratic underground, where the rumbles of the people start and new ideas and policies get formulated, and campaigns of reform are initiated and spurred on!

Imagine it! First imagine it! DU as it could be. The General Election as it could be. Our government as it could be. Our democracy as it could be. Our country as it could be, full of hope and positive energy. Mother Earth as she could be, once we learn how to take care of the malefactors who are poisoning her and start restoring her to health.

Hold the image. Think what DU would be like, with Bernie as the nominee. Think how the downtrodden people in the Great Depression felt when Seabiscuit--that funny little horse scorned by the racing establishment--beat War Admiral!

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
40. What an INCREDIBLE post! Didn't know I'd need my hankie when
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 10:28 AM
Jun 2016

I opened DU this morning. I'm seriously tearing up. I wish it could be made into a fan ad. It is so beautifully written, so full of passion. Please make it an OP.



















LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
32. I just posted on ATA - what's the policy on pro-rated refunds? - but the more important question is
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 06:46 AM
Jun 2016

what will the Hillarians do with their time when there is no more Sanders group to lurk in?

Response to jillan (Original post)

39. Get it out of our system
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 09:17 AM
Jun 2016

By saying buh bye. I have never been one to stay where I am not wanted. So glad I never donated my hard earned dollars, to a site that is anything but Democratic. Good luck in your censorship DU, some will "fall in line" or be "brought to heel ". But most, like myself, wont get mad, or try to get even, they'll simply get gone! The world is a big place and DU is just 1 site. Gleefully watching your arrogance be the cause of your demise.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
42. The convention isn't until July 25th. No nominee is chosen until then. Super Delegates don't vote
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 11:21 AM
Jun 2016

until the convention.

Soooooooo...."Democratic" Underground intends to have a coronation for the queen 👑.

Very interesting. Dontcha just love "Democracy?"

So 90% of the members are chased away just so they can pretend for a month that the queen 👑 is the nominee. That makes so much sense...not. Especially since she WILL BE indicted.

GO BERNIE!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

nilram

(2,879 posts)
47. and pro-Bernie threads generally get more recs than pro-Hillary threads
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 02:11 PM
Jun 2016

So the energy of DU is going to fade after the 16th.




Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
78. More like how Rove was desperate to call Ohio for Romney in 2012.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 11:58 PM
Jun 2016

Trying to wish it into being by ignoring the harsh reality of a situation getting more dire by the minute.


AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
50. I'm definitely leaving DU by then
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 03:48 PM
Jun 2016

Politics is pointless without real change anyway, just two parties playing good cop, bad cop and using a variety of issues to distract the population from the Oligarchy...

The only Democrat I will support is a Bernie Democrat.

avebury

(10,946 posts)
51. Silencing those who don't follow the party line
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 03:53 PM
Jun 2016

is no guarantee that you will get the votes you need to put Clinton in the WH. I really can see a lot of people staying home and not voting for either side. The penny sales tax state question might have a greater pull to get people to the polls in Oklahoma than the Presidential election.

dchill

(38,318 posts)
52. June 16th - the day DU and the Democratic party...
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 03:56 PM
Jun 2016

shrinks to statistical insignificance. Already at a historic low of 29% of the electorate, maybe they can dip below the Republicans' 26%. Really great strategy. Together they "command" 55%, leaving a 45% swath for an indepent or 3rd party to win.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
55. The party has been shrinking rapidly since 2010
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 03:59 PM
Jun 2016

The party leaders don't care if the party shrinks as long as they still have control of it.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
56. so does that mean no candidate can be criticized?
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 04:01 PM
Jun 2016

since no one will be a candidate until the convention.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
63. Anyone remember when censorship was a Republican thing?
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 04:33 PM
Jun 2016

Like, back about 10 or so years ago?

Actually, DU was far harsher I believe during 2003 or 2004, and through the Obama Aministration until recently has been relatively free speech.

undergroundpanther

(11,925 posts)
69. censorship is not american
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 07:00 PM
Jun 2016

Freedom of speech especially political speech is part of the constitution. Democratic Underground enforcing censorship is incredibly intolerant and anti-democratic.
When will certain people learn democracy entails not a party but a system of thought about how a government should function.The progressives here remember the ACTUAL definition of democrat. Not thier fault hillary has drifted right to the point shes farther right than Nixion was. This just shows how bad the people have been manipulated and forgot the definition of what democracy IS. And this has nothing to do with Bernie supporters.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
74. Skinner should also have announced that after
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 08:19 PM
Jun 2016

the last primary, this site will undergo a name change and will henceforth be known as DINO Above Ground. This place has been my cyber political home since 2001. I have long been a poster and a financial contributor, not only of the site but to many worthy causes championed here. Among others, I gave to the flowers for Helen Thomas fund and contributed to helping a great DUer Andy Stephenson pay medical bills. I mourned Andy's death and the deaths of the legendary Khephra and many others we've lost along the way. This place is like family to me, and I resent that I'm going to be shunned and silenced because I refuse to get in line behind a deeply flawed candidate whose views I don't agree with.

When this place becomes Hillary Central after the primary season but before the convention (completely ridiculous), Skinner should be prepared for a mass exodus. No Bernie supporter is going to want to spend time in a fawning, sycophant-ridden pro Hillary echo chamber.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
84. DU has changed as has it's needs and focus IMO Skinner is prepared and possibly wants a mass exodus
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 04:57 AM
Jun 2016

of old time progressives , we are not compatible with today's democratic party ans albeit we supported DU and helped make it a success in many ways including I suspect financially, we are now superfluous and not real Democrats according to the new order

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
85. I disagree. Skinner gave some DU members amnesty because he has read the writing on the wall.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 07:38 AM
Jun 2016

No Democratic candidate has ever become the official party's nominee while being investigated by the FBI.
Never happened; never will.

Skinner knows that now, so he will "readjust" his latest position by Juneteenth.



azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
86. Has there ever been a Democratic candidate for POTUS that was under FBI investigation
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:50 PM
Jun 2016

while campaigning before now? Not that I remember, so Hillary is a first in many respects

when it comes to amnesty the mother off all amnesty's was granted last week-when one of more celebrated Hillary supporters who had been flagged for an extended time seemed to grow a sock an obvious one that - admins reaction -unflag the original poster and flag the sock

and when it comes to who is a real Democrat well they're right we are not real Democrats not by today's standards for what is a Democrat in any event - today's Democrat and really for the past 23 years or so is a creature that would send shivers of delight through a 1980 type Republican or have them green with envy depending

and the beauty part is that along with it the standard for what a liberal is has changed too-all one has to do to be a liberal these days is pay nominal lip service to being for women's reproductive rights albeit those standards as we have recently told can be compromised as long as any restriction on abortion comes with a clause protecting the mother life and LGBT rights, well the L and G in any event the B doesn't even register and the T is negotiable apparently

Gone is the Great Society 'nonsense' of the LBJ era, you're either a winner or a loser these days

totodeinhere

(13,034 posts)
80. What will happen to this Bernie group? Will it be shut down on the 16th?
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 12:34 AM
Jun 2016

God forbid if some minor criticism the Queen Bee slips out of my lips. I will probably just sit out the general election campaign and then come back after November when hopefully some criticism of her majesty will be allowed again.

Lodestar

(2,388 posts)
87. Haha! I x-posted your graphic in GDP and it was hidden.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 02:01 PM
Jun 2016

So I guess the silencers decided not to wait until mid-June.

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