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LiberalArkie

(18,200 posts)
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:18 PM Jun 2016

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TDale313

(7,822 posts)
1. He's taking the important issues mainstream
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:27 PM
Jun 2016

And I'm failing to see the bad. Fwiw, Jill Stein has encouraged NPP voters to support Bernie.

Response to TDale313 (Reply #1)

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
3. Meh. much ado about nothing.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:33 PM
Jun 2016

First of all, Sanders campaign is running on most of the issues of concern to Greens. They should be happy Bernie is giving those issues yuge publicity.
Secondly, if Clinton gets the nomination not only will all the former Greens return, but will be joined by large numbers of former Dems switching to the Green Party in disgust at the RW lurch of the Democratic Party. Dude should be thanking his lucky stars...not whining like a Hillarian.

pengu

(462 posts)
4. This
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:38 PM
Jun 2016

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
7. Exactly. We registered lots of Green members. They all understood this. nt
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:44 PM
Jun 2016

kayakjohnny

(5,235 posts)
8. Money quote of the day..
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:54 PM
Jun 2016

"...not whining like a Hillarian."

That was sweet.

Thanks, Hooptie.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
16. Yes. If Hillary is the nominee, it won't so much be Bernie or bus
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 03:14 AM
Jun 2016

as Bernie then Green.

That's what Hillary really has to worry about.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
17. We'll be able to measure easily.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:09 AM
Jun 2016

Greens have always gotten .5% of the popular vote or less, except in 2000 when Nader got 2.5%. In 2012 Stein herself got just under .4%. There hasn't been any huge growth in Green Party since then. Thus any Green % above .4 is part of Bernie or Bust. I have a strong hunch the Green Party is going to set a record this Nov. Same for the Libertarians on the conservative side...a lot of them aren't too crazy about Trump.

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
5. perhaps if the green party righteously "stood" in
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:38 PM
Jun 2016

the power of their platform, voters may not have left to support bernie during this election.
even bill mckibben's 360 degree organization has more followers - and more righteous activism.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
6. What Feinstein failed to grasp and yet many Green Party supporters did is that Sanders
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:43 PM
Jun 2016

is helping their platform and that Sander's supporters will in all likelihood return the favor by abandoning the Democratic party and registering Green if Bernie loses the nomination.

I always thought the Green party should have encouraged members to re-register and vote Bernie themselves for the primary. I think Stein gets it.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
9. Didn't Stein invite Bernie to run on the Green ticket with her?
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:00 PM
Jun 2016

Response to LiberalArkie (Original post)

jillan

(39,451 posts)
11. If the Green Party would get out in front of the voters in the way that Bernie has
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:57 PM
Jun 2016

they might be getting more attention.

Seriously - you never hear from them. And in the age of social media that is no one's fault but their own.

Bernie's campaign was 75% social media. The msm and the dnc did very little to help him, as we know.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
12. They seem to have existed in a vacuum for the most part, so getting
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 09:42 PM
Jun 2016

money would be a problem. Not the fundraising type? I don't know. I love what the Greens stand for, but they have been kind of an event, not a party.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
13. Agreed. They should take this opportunity and run with it. Now is the time.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 09:45 PM
Jun 2016

The people have had enough of our 2 political party system.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
14. That's a fact. How it works out is another matter. But regardless,
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 09:56 PM
Jun 2016

Bernie is going to be part of the conversation for hopefully a long time. I see him as the Leader of the new generation of Millenials, and they seem to, as well.

I have hope for the future. The next 4 years will likely be Clinton Wars 2.0 with the Republicans, been there done that, 2018 showing some more Revolution power and hopefully a 2020 Progressive victory.

Bernin4U

(812 posts)
15. Only 30%? Why not 100%?
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 03:00 AM
Jun 2016

CrispyQ

(39,639 posts)
18. After 37 years as a dem, I switched to the Green Party in 2014.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:40 AM
Jun 2016

This year I switched back to dem to caucus for Sanders & when it was over, I went back to Green. IF HRC gets the nom, I will probably vote for her, but she won't get one minute of my time or one dime of my money. And if Polis & Bennet vote their superdelegate votes for her, I won't be voting for them.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/04/01/how-hillary-clinton-bought-the-loyalty-of-33-state-democratic-parties/

Our political process is a corrupted, compromised mess.

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