Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:49 PM
Flying Squirrel (3,041 posts)
Official "Goodbye DU" postLast edited Fri Aug 4, 2017, 01:50 PM - Edit history (1)
I was going to wait till the 15th, but it is clear that the wolves are howling at the door and the DU I knew will be pretty much toast after tomorrow, regardless of the results in CA. Better to just start settling into a new home now (that would be JPR of course).
--- Edit: JPR = Jackpine Radicals: https://jackpineradicals.com --- Official "Goodbye DU" Post 1. We won't let the door hit us on the way out -- thanks for your concern. 2. We won't be returning while Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton is the presumptive or actual Democratic nominee -- and perhaps not even after her inevitable fall. That should comfort many of you, which I guess just goes to show you were never really our friends. 3. We won't be voting for Trump, but have fun with that talking point. 4(a). We may not be voting for Hillary -- deal with it. If that means we were "never Democrats anyway", so be it (just ignore all our previous votes for Obama, Kerry, Gore, Clinton, et al.) 4(b). Oh, and Bernie Sanders and Ralph Nader are in fact two completely different people. 5. We're not magically going to disappear, nor are the many others who showed up to Sanders' rallies, phone banked for him, put up bumper stickers and/or lawn signs, or just honked at people standing on the corner with a Bernie sign. We will grow more numerous and more powerful, and we will eventually win. (And we will do so without throwing chairs.) You are on the wrong side of history. 6. Many, many of us are African American, women, Latino, elderly, LGBT, you name it. And some of us are young white males, not that there's anything wrong with it. Oh, and some of us are young independent millennial women with our own minds who don't choose a candidate based on who young men our age are supporting. Lol. 7. We leave sadly, not gleefully or spitefully. We sincerely wish more of you had not become so blind, deluded, jaded, fearful, peer-pressured, militant, or whatever it was that could cause you to support such a flawed individual or candidate for the Democratic Party nominee for President. For you, not for us. 8. Mostly, we leave because there's no use even talking to you anymore. We know you feel the same way about us. Call it irreconcilable differences. (If I missed anything, please add it below.) Well... Bye! ![]()
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Flying Squirrel | Jun 2016 | OP |
LiberalElite | Jun 2016 | #1 | |
grasswire | Jun 2016 | #2 | |
Corruption Inc | Jun 2016 | #3 | |
HubertHeaver | Jun 2016 | #12 | |
AZ Progressive | Jun 2016 | #17 | |
Enthusiast | Jun 2016 | #37 | |
merrily | Jun 2016 | #52 | |
brewens | Jun 2016 | #4 | |
merrily | Jun 2016 | #53 | |
djean111 | Jun 2016 | #5 | |
Gregorian | Jun 2016 | #6 | |
merrily | Jun 2016 | #54 | |
rhett o rick | Jun 2016 | #7 | |
DI Freighter Watcher | Jun 2016 | #8 | |
Skink | Jun 2016 | #9 | |
felix_numinous | Jun 2016 | #10 | |
Jester Messiah | Jun 2016 | #11 | |
Dyedinthewoolliberal | Jun 2016 | #13 | |
Flying Squirrel | Jun 2016 | #15 | |
Cobalt Violet | Jun 2016 | #14 | |
mvd | Jun 2016 | #16 | |
CobaltBlue | Jun 2016 | #18 | |
Flying Squirrel | Jun 2016 | #20 | |
captainsardonicus | Jun 2016 | #36 | |
AikidoSoul | Jun 2016 | #19 | |
restorefreedom | Jun 2016 | #21 | |
Zorra | Jun 2016 | #22 | |
noiretextatique | Jun 2016 | #23 | |
Babel_17 | Jun 2016 | #24 | |
Hiraeth | Jun 2016 | #25 | |
slipslidingaway | Jun 2016 | #26 | |
TreasonousBastard | Jun 2016 | #27 | |
Silver_Witch | Jun 2016 | #29 | |
TreasonousBastard | Jun 2016 | #30 | |
trudyco | Jun 2016 | #32 | |
Enthusiast | Jun 2016 | #38 | |
chwaliszewski | Jun 2016 | #42 | |
sandyshoes17 | Jun 2016 | #47 | |
Silver_Witch | Jun 2016 | #43 | |
nilram | Jun 2016 | #28 | |
lonestarnot | Jun 2016 | #31 | |
Binkie The Clown | Jun 2016 | #33 | |
davidlynch | Jun 2016 | #34 | |
LovingA2andMI | Jun 2016 | #35 | |
jimlup | Jun 2016 | #39 | |
davidpdx | Jun 2016 | #40 | |
snooper2 | Jun 2016 | #45 | |
Mary Mac | Jun 2016 | #41 | |
snooper2 | Jun 2016 | #44 | |
robbedvoter | Jun 2016 | #46 | |
chervilant | Jun 2016 | #48 | |
sangfroid | Jun 2016 | #49 | |
LiberalEsto | Jun 2016 | #50 | |
peacebird | Jun 2016 | #51 | |
The Blue Flower | Jun 2016 | #55 |
Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:53 PM
LiberalElite (14,691 posts)
1. K&r +1,000,000 nt
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Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:54 PM
grasswire (50,130 posts)
2. Those who depart do so with honor.
We are instrumental in the beginning of a movement that is changing America. We are part of the future, while we resist the status quo that has kept so many Americans down.
Thank you for your thoughtful words. (I wonder if Skinner is prepared for the declining revenue stream happening soon.) |
Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)
Corruption Inc This message was self-deleted by its author.
Response to Corruption Inc (Reply #3)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 03:37 PM
HubertHeaver (2,515 posts)
12. The admins from DU are able to read on those sites also.
I have to think this is the way DU admin wants it.
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Response to HubertHeaver (Reply #12)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:41 PM
AZ Progressive (3,411 posts)
17. Bullies are the foot soldiers of the status quo
Schoolyard bullies push kids to conform, and there are bullies that push people to stay within their own gender box, bullies that pressure people to stay in a religion, police bullies that oppress black people, and now political bullies that attempt to force neoliberalism and Republican ideas down our throats.
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Response to AZ Progressive (Reply #17)
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 07:10 AM
Enthusiast (50,983 posts)
37. Precisely.
It's impossible to deny or to ignore.
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Response to HubertHeaver (Reply #12)
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 09:12 AM
merrily (45,251 posts)
52. I am not sure why they would want to. However, all posters did not use their DU names elsewhere/
For instance, MannyGoldstein needed more space and is now Manny Goldstein and marym625 went up in the world to Marym625. Others made much more drastic changes.
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Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:58 PM
brewens (12,710 posts)
4. I won't be making this post. I plan to soldier on and make the movements presence known
wherever and whenever I can. I really think it was Bernie that would have given us the most pop in Congressional races. That might be the biggest consequence of having Hillary take the nomination.
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Response to brewens (Reply #4)
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 09:14 AM
merrily (45,251 posts)
53. If Trump is the nominee, down ticket Democrats won't need much help.
Weirdest election of my life.
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Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 03:00 PM
djean111 (14,255 posts)
5. Pretty much sums it up, me too!
Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 03:04 PM
Gregorian (23,867 posts)
6. Count me in, although I'm still here in body.
One thing I feel strongly about, as we organize and create a new alternative media in America- We ARE the Democratic party. Before we leave the party, we are going to stand and represent the same values that created the party. I will not abandon the party until it is declared dead, or taken over by the "others". I have to be careful here now since I'm walking on eggshells. One more alert, and I'm probably banned. Haha. I can only laugh. But inside I cry for those who are vulnerable. That's the part that the new dems have forgotten. America isn't about "ME".
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Response to Gregorian (Reply #6)
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 09:15 AM
merrily (45,251 posts)
54. Wondering: at what point will you consider the Party to have been taken over?
It's been a long time since LBJ.
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Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 03:09 PM
rhett o rick (55,981 posts)
7. When I say you will be missed, I mean that those that stay will miss the chance to alert on you, to
lock and hide your posts, and threaten you with banning. If they wanted life without us, they had the Hillary Group, but many found that not satisfying enough. What fun it is to self-righteously push others around esp when you have the admins on you side. As far as the money stream, I don't think Skinner needs it. If he did, all he would have to do is get the hundreds of new recently joining Clinton supporters to pay up. Although, I have a hunch they will be gone also.
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Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 03:10 PM
DI Freighter Watcher (128 posts)
8. I will miss your posts
I too will make my exit, without a final word. Knowing that I will see you and many others at JPR is a positive thought. Moving can be difficult but sometimes you find you like your new place over what you left behind.
Peace! ![]() |
Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 03:22 PM
Skink (10,122 posts)
9. Where are we going to find another Flying squirrel
On such short notice
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Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 03:22 PM
felix_numinous (5,198 posts)
10. Maybe we'll all meet elsewhere
on the net, who knows
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Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 03:24 PM
Jester Messiah (4,711 posts)
11. Yeah, I'm just about done with this cesspit.
Good fucking riddance to it.
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Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 03:50 PM
Dyedinthewoolliberal (15,048 posts)
13. JPR?
what is that?
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Response to Dyedinthewoolliberal (Reply #13)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:02 PM
Flying Squirrel (3,041 posts)
15. Jackpine Radicals
Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 03:54 PM
Cobalt Violet (9,896 posts)
14. see you there!
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Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:35 PM
mvd (64,972 posts)
16. I'll see you over at JPR
I won't be posting much at DU. I could have some anti-Trump things to say here, but the vast majority of my time will be at JPR. I will follow the DU rules like I always have, and if that means moving over, I will do that. Now I have my doubts over whether Trump will even get through the GE. The guy has real mental issues. But I want to be able to criticize Hillary if I want to, and many of the same people I have been avoiding here will be around during the GE - minus many of the Sanders people. It will not be fun here.
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Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:59 PM
CobaltBlue (1,122 posts)
18. Flying Squirrel—Take good care! (Q: What is ‘JPR’?)
Response to CobaltBlue (Reply #18)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:55 PM
Flying Squirrel (3,041 posts)
20. Jackpine Radicals
Response to Flying Squirrel (Reply #20)
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:21 AM
captainsardonicus (4 posts)
36. Jackpine Radicals!
See you there. Thanks for this amazingly clear and on-point summing up of what's happened at DU. I've been lurking since the early (quite dark) chimpy/cheney years, and found much comfort & insight here. No more. Of the Clinton supporters, you said: "You are on the wrong side of history." Yes.
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Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:07 PM
AikidoSoul (2,150 posts)
19. I will be joining you soon. I just donated $5,000 to another site
that is very diligent in monitoring its posts and being fair.
Today is the upteenth time that DU monitors have either hidden my post from the front page, or insured that it was locked, even though it was not me but another poster who went "over the top. Instead of deleting the "over the top" post....they simply locked my OP. Not fair here anymore. It's been creeping into the site for years. Have a good journey into places where truth and honesty have some meaning. AikidoSoul |
Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 06:08 PM
restorefreedom (12,655 posts)
21. see you in the nice place! nt
Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 06:30 PM
Zorra (27,670 posts)
22. We're going to make history at JPR.
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Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:07 PM
noiretextatique (27,275 posts)
23. see you there
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Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 11:50 PM
Babel_17 (5,400 posts)
24. See you "over there"
Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:04 AM
Hiraeth (4,805 posts)
25. bye, Flying Squirrel
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Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:09 AM
slipslidingaway (21,210 posts)
26. See you there, signed up a few months ago. nt
Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:33 AM
TreasonousBastard (42,882 posts)
27. Ahh, the glorious sounds of sour grapes squishing into the floorboards...
So, what do you do if Hillary is actually the winner and you have no Bernie to work with?
Or, if Bernie actually gets the nod, will you come back to a relatively peaceful DU? Some of us have stayed out of the braying nothingness that is the primary fighting. We will be satisfied to support the Democratic nominee against Trump, even if it is not our preferred candidate. Life around here is quiet and peaceful without the Bernie, Hillary or GD-P groups, and those of us who don't hang out there don't feel stalked or abused. Nothing will be decided here on the pages of DU, so why fight here? And when challenged foolishly, why answer the challenges? |
Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #27)
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 01:08 AM
Silver_Witch (1,820 posts)
29. Your post is proof the bullying.
You refuse to engage except to post how silly we are to post.
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Response to Silver_Witch (Reply #29)
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 01:09 AM
TreasonousBastard (42,882 posts)
30. That's bullying?
Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #30)
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 01:43 AM
trudyco (1,258 posts)
32. So sour grapes squished into the floor boards
Is just chitty chitty chat chat?
What's that stupid alert phrase about being hurtful... whatever. JPR isn't just about Bernie. It's about bringing back the ideals of the old Democratic Party. Caring about people, the country, democracy, the environment and the World. And it's about standing up to corruption. Hypocrisy. Sell Outs. Du has changed dramatically from the Shrub years. |
Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #30)
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 10:09 AM
Silver_Witch (1,820 posts)
43. Yeap. Not surprised you don't recognize it!
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Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:49 AM
nilram (2,812 posts)
28. Bernie Sanders and Ralph Nader are in fact two completely different people
Yes, it bears repeating, thanks
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Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 01:19 AM
lonestarnot (77,097 posts)
31. Didn't know JPR had a website. Thanks.
Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 02:08 AM
Binkie The Clown (7,911 posts)
33. Look at any institution you care to name. The longer it goes on, the more corrupt it gets.
I, too, am on the verge of writing my letter of resignation from DU. There's no point in trying to promote the values that made the Democratic party great in the past. Now that it has been assimilated by the "Borg" that is our corporate overlords, there's probably no going back.
1972 posts is about as many as I care to bother with, so from here on out I'm going to sit on my front porch and watch the world go to hell in a hand basket, and just laugh my ass off at the absurdity of it all. So long and thanks for all the fish. |
Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 02:20 AM
davidlynch (644 posts)
34. I created an account at JPR for myself n/t
Last edited Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:07 AM - Edit history (1) See you all over there
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Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 02:40 AM
LovingA2andMI (7,006 posts)
35. Absolutely Perfect....
As written. See ya over at JPR!
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Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 07:22 AM
jimlup (7,968 posts)
39. I'm 98% in agreement
I won't be saying goodbye to DU. When I originally signed up I knew it (DU) wasn't an exact match for my political perspective but I generally support democratic candidates as a result of being an anti-Republican.
In this general I will only vote for Clinton IF my state is contested. Otherwise I will vote for the Green party candidate. If some over zealous Hillary supporter wants to alert on that statement then I'll proudly take the hide. I live in Michigan and it has been blue for since the 90's so I don't expect it to suddenly go for the Dumpster. If something weird happens and it does then I'll hold my nose and vote Democratic for PROTUS. |
Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 07:37 AM
davidpdx (22,000 posts)
40. I've decided I'm going to go out with a bang
I may do it tomorrow. I won't say how, except it will be worth watching.
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Response to davidpdx (Reply #40)
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 10:35 AM
snooper2 (30,151 posts)
45. Are you going to do it Walt Starr style!
Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 07:48 AM
Mary Mac (323 posts)
41. lots of gbcw posts.
Y'all can't remember but early in primary season DU was what jack line radicals and caucus 99 is now. Jus remember the real problem is the Republican Congress and if you concentrate your energies there since we'll your candidate was really no going to win after SC, we will all be grateful beyond all measure. Also vote for Judge Morgan or anyone but Edmunds in NC today. Vote in Midterms and special elections. And watch Person of Interest tonight.
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Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 10:34 AM
snooper2 (30,151 posts)
44. Is JPR going to get a format change?
Like FR version 2.0 LOL
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Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 01:06 PM
robbedvoter (28,290 posts)
46. From your low post count, you only came here to push BS anyway
Been here from the start. Seen many "movements" come and go and many good byes like this. Good luck to you!
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Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 02:30 PM
chervilant (8,267 posts)
48. I might be right behind you.
I still visit DU for SCE and lolcats, for n2doc and great toons, and for a handful of DUers who consistently post OPs worth reading. My IL is now six pages long, and I STILL have to view puerile, abusive crap from Hi11ary fans.
I'm almost done, and I've been here for better than ten years. SMDH... |
Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 07:10 PM
sangfroid (212 posts)
49. Out bloody standing
See you on the other side.
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Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 08:57 AM
LiberalEsto (22,845 posts)
50. And some of us are female senior citizens nt
Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 09:03 AM
peacebird (14,195 posts)
51. Some of us are older women, like me. A solid D voter for 41 years! See you over at JPR!
Might be time to give them another donation! Oh, and when I am here I make sure to turn AdBlock ON. Starve the beast as it were, LOL!
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Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 10:44 AM
The Blue Flower (5,301 posts)
55. You speak for me as well.
DU has lashed itself to the mast of a sinking ship. The attitude of the HRC supporters guarantees I won't be able to stand to watch it unfold. I've been attached to this site and the people on it for a long time.
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