How's everybody doing tonight?

[Ken Burch]

It's getting way way ugly over there in GD .

They don't seem to care about winning the damn election. It's more about getting payback with them.

If the situation were reversed, I know in my heart that none of us would be acting like that.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. I'm not all that upset about Hillary being called the winner

because the fix has been in for a long time. Nobody else was going to be allowed to win. I just hope people won't get discouraged and will continue the movement Bernie started.

The gloating is really annoying, though. Sore winners are the worst.

[HubertHeaver]

2. Its been festering for 8 years. They never accepted her defeat by Obama and now they get to

let it all out. As you can see, it is plenty ugly.

[Hiraeth]

3. like a boil it has been festering. yep. painful, needs to be lanced.

[HubertHeaver]

4. And Hillary is the core.

[Hiraeth]

5. yep.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

9. Yup, no surprise there... or the arrogant way Hillary supporters are acting.

How is that sposed to lead to party unity? Here's hoping Bernie crushes it tonight in Cali and fights on to the end. Go Bernie!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[notadmblnd]

6. Well I've been researching getting my account deleted.

Seems the admins will not delete your account if you request it. The only way you can become a non-member is to post something so offensive that they serve you the tombstone.

I'll be contemplating the next few days how badly I want that pizza and how I'll opt to have it served.

[mac56]

20. Me too.

I've been a member since almost the beginning. I don't ever remember it being this ugly, even in 04 and 08.

It breaks my heart. Even when I was out of work I found a way to contribute to this place.

That's about to end.

[Paulie]

30. You can just change your password to something random

Then logout. Or just use DU for the Sunday LoL cats.

[notadmblnd]

32. You know, I do look at them sometimes.

Still, this election cycle has taken its toll and like any other abusive relationship- I think its probably time to call it quits.

[hopemountain]

59. it will be an honor to be tombstoned

for social justice, economic justice, for peace, for mother earth justice, for single payer, for more jobs, for all the things on our platform for the revolution - and for the futures of our children.

for all of these reasons, i will not be voting for hillary nor any other candidate unless it is bernie. further, i will not donate a penny more to the dnc, etc. - unless the revolution's platform becomes the dnc platform and the criminal hillary is indicted.

trump is fucking insane and hillary is only for herself and her billions. she cannot keep her word from one day to the next.

[Voice for Peace]

7. I'm curious what Bernie and Obama talked about on the phone, was it today?

And about the other thing, I simply don't believe it. Weird.

Everything in me says she's not going to be the president, and this FBI investigation is way serious bizness so she may not be the nominee either.

[senz]

8. I'm kinda hoping tonight's AP shenanigans will piss off James Comey.

But yes, it would be interesting to know about Bernie and Obama's meeting. I think they like and respect one another.

[Voice for Peace]

11. I've heard rumor that Comey has had it with Clintons

unconfirmed rumor but I believe it.

[JudyM]

12. Me too, big time. I also think there have got to be quite a few FBI Berners "in the know" about

evidence and status who are chomping at the bit.

[senz]

13. I hope so.

From what I've read, Comey doesn't like it when suspects try to evade and cover up. Also, he sees a moral dimension to public service. None of that looks good for Hill.

Would you mind if I borrowed your sig line Hill pic? I always thought it was too mean, but today nothing is too mean.

[k8conant]

26. Perhaps: the bigger they are, the harder they fall

so Comey been waiting for prime time.

[840high]

27. I was hoping some

leaks would start by now.

[k8conant]

28. Maybe tomorrow

as a birthday present for me!

[senz]

29. In case I forget

have a happy birthday, k8!

May your wish come true.

[k8conant]

31. Thank you!

It's only two minutes away!

[senz]

35. You'll never be this young again!

[k8conant]

37. At least I'll be too old to die young!

67 now!

[senz]

41. Wonderful age! Greater wisdom, fewer hangups, cheaper movie tickets!

Plus, it's easier to get away with stuff because people start to "indulge" us.

[k8conant]

46. I'm not so sure about the "indulge" part

especially since all the talking heads assume that because I'm a 66 now 67-year-old woman I must be sacrificing my principles to support Hillary Clinton! I still feel like the 19-year-old who campaigned for Eugene McCarthy in 1968.

[senz]

50. I love telling people why I, an older woman, support Bernie over Hillary.

I think she, with her lies, heartlessness, and aggressive militarism, is an embarrassment to women.

Maybe staying true to our values is what keeps some of us young inside. I'd never want to grow out of the hopeful, idealistic girl I was. She's a keeper, afaic, and that 19-year-old girl you were sounds like someone you can be proud of forever.

[grasswire]

52. plus the fact that when the going gets tough because of her own recklessness...

....she plays the victim card AND the gender card.

I find that revolting.

[senz]

56. I do too. It's cheesey.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

10. Well, then it better be Bernie who gets the nomimation or it's gonna get ugly.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[dflprincess]

14. Resigned

but on the upside - a year ago, as much as I hoped it might happen, I didn't really believe Bernie would get this close.

I really hope that all (maybe most?) the people who got involved this year stay involved. I know it's frustrating, but we can take over the Democratic party and push it back to the left. I say stick with the Democrats only because the local, state and national infrastructures are there and we might as well make use of them.

If people just fade away or go off on tangents, all of this will have been for nothing. The party and the country will continue to slide right until every gain that was made in the last century is lost.

[senz]

38. Well said. This is the first election where a D after a person's name

did not automatically confer acceptability for me, and I too do not like very many of the Democratic office holders in my state and city. On our local ballot, I found myself choosing unaffilated people who seemed like regular folks over the glossy ones with the D after their names.

Also like you, I have always liked Obama and find Michelle very easy to relate to. She's right out there, easy to read. I know he compromises, but I have the sense that his heart is essentially in the right place. I'm positive he doesn't like Hill, even if she and Bill have twisted his arm.

And I agree with you 100% on the supporters. Never encountered any group as weird and nasty as Hill supporters -- at least the ones here on DU.

[artislife]

40. See you on the other site?

You have been a constant for me here.

[senz]

42. Yes, I go over every now and then. Familiar names, nice people

much more relaxing. It will be great to see you over there!

[senz]

51. I wanted to reply to your thread that some lurking busybody alerted on.

They just can't handle honesty. I think they live to torment others, and that's something they have in common with their candidate.

Who needs all that ugly? Ugh!

Protect yourself if you need to, artislife.

They're awful.

And I'll bet you miss bmus as much as I do. Hope she's doing okay.

[mvd]

15. Pretty sad. But still hopeful and proud of Bernie

Watching Hillary's speech, and she is boring me. Weirdly, even more than some of her other speeches. I guess I will have to vote for her if it means keeping Trump out. Hopefully Bernie's influence will continue to the convention and with her VP pick. If the same old thing, I am tired of holding my nose and will not next time.

[in_cog_ni_to]

18. You don't have to vote for anyone you don't want to vote for.

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Don't fall for the boogie man Trump bullshit. The queen 👑 isn't any better than Trump! They're both RWers!

One person, one vote. Your vote belongs to you. As long as people keep voting for the lesser of two evils, the government will NEVER STOP TRYING TO STEAL ELECTIONS! They do it because people keep rewarding them by continuing to vote for their corruption.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[mvd]

19. Well I don't agree about Trump - I really think he is a lunatic - but..

will evaluate my vote as things so along. She still could make me mad enough to write in Bernie or vote for Jill Stein.

[in_cog_ni_to]

21. I'm never wasting my vote again.

Trump's a lunatic and the queen 👑 is as corrupt as they come and wouldn't know the TRUTH if it bit her in the arse.

The woman is under TWO FBI CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS and is going to be INDICTED.

THERE'S no way she won't be indicted. She committed felonies...

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[mvd]

22. Boy our choice is depressing.

I wonder if Bernie can somehow still get the nom. The establishment seems to be holding back on the e-mail thing, and I wonder if they will let anything come if it, but we'll see.

[in_cog_ni_to]

24. David Shuster said Super Delegates have told him that considering all the polls showing Bernie beats

Trump - BIG TIME and considering the queen 👑 has TWO FBI INVESTIGATIONS hanging over her head, IF Bernie wins California, Super Delegates are flipping to Bernie.
Hence, the AP PROPAGANDA JOURNALISTIC MALPRACTICE last night...

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[senz]

33. That explains what they did last night.

I had heard maybe a week ago that Bernie was taking it to the convention with the understanding that SDs might very well flip to him for the reasons you mention.

I also knew that Hill was 286 delegates ahead of him yesterday but he was expected to do well today, especially in CA, which has 475 delegates. I'll bet this scared the shit out of the Hill camp and so they gave the go-ahead to the media companies to announce last night and suppress as much voter turnout as possible.

I have seriously disliked Hill since 2008, and it's been building since then, and then this campaign with all her ugliness along the way, but after last night, I now feel exactly as you do.

The only good thing about last night was how obvious it was. For anyone with a brain and a conscience, what the AP/Hill campaign did last night was so shameless and disrespectful of the voters that it just has to do severe damage to her and her campaign. She's always been dirty, but now it's really out there for all to see.

[grasswire]

54. yes, if Trump is such an ogre, why sent the weaker candidate to fight him?

That makes no sense at all, in any kind of contest, to send your weaker candidate.

[mvd]

43. Yes I could have mentioned that

I meant the 2 choices given to us by the major parties. I think having just 2 major parties makes things stay the same. A viable third party would be great. I can still vote Green.

[in_cog_ni_to]

16. Psyched about Bernie winning California - very soon!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[Ken Burch]

17. That would be nice.

Every delegate we get adds to our ability to shape the platform and the future.

[senz]

34. It also improves Bernie's chances of getting the nomination in July.

[marlakay]

39. Depressed but not surprised

This election has been rigged from the beginning.

[Xyzse]

44. A Bit Hard. Not sure if it is safe to post.

Hence, I am just keeping my mouth mostly shut.

[grasswire]

57. yeah I just got a hide

should have realized that juries are prolly all HRC tonight.

[Xyzse]

60. Yeah...

I mean, I have been pretty civil, and any time I get a response, I do try to acknowledge it to the best of my ability. Even asking them to provide me with a clarification or to tell me more about a particular issue.

It is rare that I get responses however.

Though even I was not willing to try my luck yesterday. I saw some posts hidden that were by no means insulting nor out of topic. So, I just had to zip it.

[shireen]

45. feeling very sad

I admire Bernie so much. I'm deeply disappointed he did not get the nomination, but am also very proud that he made it this far despite the odds.

Will always feel the Bern, and look forward to continuing to be part of his revolution. He's not done with us yet.

[mahina]

48. Super depressed.

Can't quite choke it back.

It's not about Hillary, it's about our whole broken system.

It's going to take me a minute to regroup. It would help me out a lot if Hillary changed her logo from the arrow pointing to the right. There's no way that's an accident.

Wishing her all the best of course, and so grateful to Bernie and all who supported him. And who still do.

[grasswire]

58. I am not wishing her the best.

She has not earned the best. Nobody who has jeopardized our national secrets through arrogance and recklessness deserves the best. No one who engages in voter suppression even indirectly deserves the best.

[yuiyoshida]

49. Iwill be glad when GD: P WILL be shutdown

its been a cesspool in there.

[senz]

53. They're in fine form tonight.

Catch this: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512154002

[cilla4progress]

55. I love Bernie and have a big lump in my throat right now.

He did so much better than expected. There is a huge constitutency for him. And I'm so glad he is staying in through DC, so that those who want to vote for him will have a chance to. I don't agree with those who say he should bow out now or that he is being egotistical or selfish. He needs to continue whipping up suppport for his principles.