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truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
3. That site makes no provison for the 2.4 million ballots that are in the process of being
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 07:54 PM
Jun 2016

Counted. I have emailed the Secretary of State to ask specifically what steps will be made to change the vote counts that are in coming. He hasn't answered me, but I only made my request five hours ago.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
2. Alex Padillo, the Secretary of State for California, has not made much in the way of changes
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 07:51 PM
Jun 2016

To the official site. That despite the fact that on going vote counts are happening.

Yes, ballot counting is on going, for the 2.4 MILLION ballots that had been left uncounted b7y Thursday night the Ninth of June.

But don't expect the people in League with DNC, or Corporate America for that matter, to tell us much. I mean, Hillary already won, right?

The word on the street is that three counties have been pulled away from Hillary and given to Bernie, but I don't know if there is any way to get Padillo to fall in line with Truth Justice and the American way. This is after all, the state that destroyed the Gm labeling initiative by announcing that the initiative lost, before one million votes were counted. Of the 57 or 58 counties that exist, only three have Registrar of Voters who are not crooks. (I have been saying that for years - not a reflection on just the past few months.)
Those honestly-run Registrar of Voter offices are Napa, Sonoma, and Lake County.

Use twitter and sign up for as many "Election Integrity," "Election Protection" and "Election Info" sites as you can. Or visit jackpineradicals. And let us know what you dig up. Also: If you have some spare time, utilize facebook to find your local Sanders' group.. They are asking for volunteers to continue the vote counting.

Lambda117

(1 post)
5. Statistics Will Tell All
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:56 PM
Jun 2016

I understand that people don't like Clinton, but I don't understand why everyone is so focused on leftover votes in CA? It kind of reeks of a conspiracy theory to me. Vote your conscience (so against Clinton if you don't agree with her policies), but don't get caught up in

btw: just to make the point. The reason that they were able to make a call so early is thanks to my handy dandy friend statistics! Once a large enough proportion of the vote was in, you can use this representative sample to extrapolate a reasonable expectation as to what the remaining vote will be with roughly a 90% to 95% confidence interval. Because you only need an N of around 25-65 in order to have a roughly representative sample (altho at that level the MOE would be pretty high!), it makes sense, given a share of election day (which trends Sanders) and mail in (which trends Clinton) votes would give us a fairly representative sample. With a sample size of millions, that dramatically reduces the potential margin of error and gives us more confidence in the mean value of the votes (which I would guess is something like 55 Clinton, 45 Sanders). There isn't really a lot of room for Bernie to shrink or flip the margin. Given that, there was a decent basis for the networks to call the race when they did. It may not be the best end result for Bernie, but it is still a legitimate result.

Also: the reason a county or two might flip is because some counties with razor thin margins, even with small margins of error, had differences in the vote total that were well within the margin of error. If you're assuming a margin of error of 10 or so votes might flip and the difference is 5 votes, then there's a pretty good chance the vote will flip! However, if you're assuming a margin of error of 10 votes and the difference is 100 votes...well, at that point there's no chance of the vote flipping.

Don't assume this means I'm telling you how to vote, however! If you don't like Clinton's policies (don't make this about the person, please), then by all means vote against her or for Jill! Just don't claim that the results were not legitimate (its a common problem with losing campaigns, where supporters claim that voter fraud was the only reason they lost. 3.5 million votes is a huge margin to explain away with fraud) when there is no CONVINCING evidence that it was not legitimate (and I'm not talking random_guy_17 who has a conspiracy theorist website claiming A or B or C). That harms the legitimacy of our democracy. The real story of this election is that the Democratic party is open to, but not committed to, change. It won't happen now, but there's a chance that a more mainstream progressive can seize the nomination in the future! But the chances of that happening are less likely when you try to disenfranchise Clinton voters who may be open to your cause in the future.

Sorry for the wall of text! I just wanted to get this off of my chest!

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
6. the official tallies have yet to be
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:01 PM
Jun 2016

added nor released to the press. most likely not until every ballot has been counted - which can be up to 30 days. therefore, most main stream media is maintaining the June 7 totals.

however - local county tablulations seem to be updated online each day or two.

for example, check san luis obispo and/or santa barbara counties - they are beginning to reflect the current ballot counts.

Donkees

(31,394 posts)
8. From a link I posted over the weekend:
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:07 PM
Jun 2016

Reports from a number of the state's 58 counties haven't changed for a few days, so expect the figures to shift pretty noticeably by early next week.

And one other part of the process: This is the first year in which ballots that arrive up to three days late -- Friday would be the deadline -- can be counted. So the number of ballots on hand could also change.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280211644

KPN

(15,643 posts)
10. There are also some on-going legal challenges related to the Independent
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:42 PM
Jun 2016

(Party of America) and No Party Preference registration/ballots snafus.

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