Bernie Sanders
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Segami
(14,923 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)onecaliberal
(32,826 posts)villager
(26,001 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)It's like on here. The hysterical hubris, demeaning one-liners, just plain political insanity...meanwhile this candidate has aides being deposed who are in serious legal danger. They Have to tell the truth. She doesn't, apparently. But she does want to be President really badly and has coveted the role for a long time. Thus....
Aren't we lucky.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)There is nothing they could say that would allow me to vote for her. She lost my vote long ago.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)I'm certain there's got to be something there worth support. She's a human, not Dick Cheney, there's gotta be something admirable. And I'm counting on her fan club to really polish it up and chuck it out there.
But they're not doing that. At best, it seems like they don't need to because she's Hillary so she'll just win. At worst, I get the feeling that Hillary supporters are just some variation on the familiar old hate Movement theme, like all those years of repressed rage at "librulz takin' over mah party" is finally boiling out.
Look, we all know that Hillary is a better candidate than Trump. I imagine most of us are going to induce ourselves into varying levels of inebriation and hit the polls to vote for her just to keep him out. But... that's us. That's a small subset of a small subset of the voting populace. Every last one of DU's Bernie supporters could roll out like htey keep demanding, and wit hthe campaign she's running, the total non-support she gets from her "supporters," and the overwhelming reliance on not being someone else, she could still fucking lose to that aryan untermensch.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)I have tried and BARELY got intelligent discourse out of some people. Mostly it's taunts though.
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jamese777
(546 posts)In 2008 there were angry Hillary supporters who refused to vote for Barack Obama. They formed the P.U.M.A. organization (Party Unity My Ass). Some voted for McCain, others went third party.
"Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it."
senz
(11,945 posts)Not so in 2016.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)and perhaps we will see a very similar trend this time. I see no need for her to get my vote.
Bernin4U
(812 posts)...have managed to make themselves the "majority".
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IOW, Berners and PUMAs are polar opposites. The difference is that this time the PUMAs "won".
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)True, that post was in April and the pizza wasn't delivered for more than a month later, so it's not clear what role that particular bit of disdain played in the decision -- but at least the poster is gone.
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sangfroid
(212 posts)Last edited Tue Jun 14, 2016, 12:17 PM - Edit history (1)
are relying on the old "so who else you gonna vote for?" They assume throwing Nader in our faces will force us to vote for the least of two evils. What they don't get is this is a movement, not an attempt to help a sweet old man from Vermont get a new job.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)That Sanders supporters are his biggest problem..
Classic projection.
The PUMAs are still out there and they are still on the Clinton side. They are the ones hell bent on destroying the Democratic coalition in their quest for Clintonian purity.
VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)I just want them to kiss my ass.
mrr303am
(159 posts)If they feel Hillary can win without us Bernie supporters then have at it and good luck. Since write-in candidates are not an option in my state, I'll be voting for Jill Stein.
hopemountain
(3,919 posts)they bully more. they have no concept of being graceful in winning.
how much will things change after the convention?
GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)but the real strategy here may be to hang on to Hillary supporters and appeal to the Right by Hippie Punching with no real interest or expectation of winning Sanders supporters over.
The demonization of Sanders supporters may be more about demanding head-in-the-sand loyalty from those already in the Hillary tent than winning over the unwinnable.