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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 12:11 AM Jun 2016

By The End of 2020, If HRC Were Elected President..

That would make it 32 years of time lapsed between 1988 to 2020.

As such, the Presidency will have been controlled by only 2 families (Bushes & Clintons) for a period of 24 of the 32 years........with a brief 8 year pause by the Obama presidency.


Is this the best we can do?



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By The End of 2020, If HRC Were Elected President.. (Original Post) Segami Jun 2016 OP
Thank you. I am not a misogynist, but babylonsister Jun 2016 #1
"Is This The Best We Can Do?" NO. Jackilope Jun 2016 #2
By the end of 2020, climate change will be unmistakably hitting the planet hard Arazi Jun 2016 #3
That's not including VP Bush, 1980-1988 jg10003 Jun 2016 #4
This is among the reasons I'm so opposed to Hillary Clinton as President. SheilaT Jun 2016 #5
+1 840high Jun 2016 #6
The problem is... Else You Are Mad Jun 2016 #8
I look at Obama as the house sitter while the owner of the estate have gone to Europe LiberalArkie Jun 2016 #12
President Obama wasn't a fluke Hydra Jun 2016 #13
Well said, and I agree...n/t ms liberty Jun 2016 #10
What's the matter? RoccoR5955 Jun 2016 #7
It depends upon what the meaning of the word "can" is. merrily Jun 2016 #9
The problem isn't dynasties, but the superficial nature of our politics Jim Lane Jun 2016 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #14
Yup sangfroid Jun 2016 #15

babylonsister

(171,059 posts)
1. Thank you. I am not a misogynist, but
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 12:14 AM
Jun 2016

I am just tired of the same ole.

Thanks from me to President Obama for interfering!

Jackilope

(819 posts)
2. "Is This The Best We Can Do?" NO.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 01:29 AM
Jun 2016

A year and a half ago figured it would be Hillary vs Jeb. Depressing. Bernie entering has been a breath of fresh air and inspiring. Many, many people would choose a none of the above in a HRC vs Trump campaign.

This is what happens when corporations own both parties.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
3. By the end of 2020, climate change will be unmistakably hitting the planet hard
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 01:40 AM
Jun 2016

And Madame President will be on her way to becoming labelled the worst president ever for her failure to aggressively lead on climate change initiatives.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
5. This is among the reasons I'm so opposed to Hillary Clinton as President.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 02:39 AM
Jun 2016

Two years ago when she was first gearing up to run, and when so many here were so ga-ga over her, I expressed concern that there were simply no new potential candidates out there. The only names that were put forth for the longest time were those who'd been around before, had already run: Clinton, Kerry, Gore.

It's as if not a single new Democrat has been elected to higher office since 2000. Among the reasons I wanted Elizabeth Warren to run, and why I so whole-heartedly supported (and still support) Bernie Sanders, is that neither one was a tired presence in the world of politics. Even though Bernie Sanders has been in elected office since 1981, he wasn't really on the national stage and that made him a refreshing newcomer.

Equally disturbing are the predictions that Chelsea Clinton or either of the Obama girls will run for office in a few years.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
8. The problem is...
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 08:25 AM
Jun 2016

The new generation of younger Democrats are not completely bought into and fully assimilated into the establishment. That is why we get the Clintons, the Kerrys, the Gores, etc. Obama was just a fluke and the establishment never thought Sanders would gain as much popularity and momentum as he did.

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
12. I look at Obama as the house sitter while the owner of the estate have gone to Europe
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 09:57 AM
Jun 2016

for a bit. The house sitter gets to make a few decisions about the house and estate as the owners are gone, but not big ones. The owners will be back soon.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
13. President Obama wasn't a fluke
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 10:02 AM
Jun 2016

It was just a fight over the corner office by 2 people in the same company.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
7. What's the matter?
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 07:43 AM
Jun 2016

Don't like American Royalty? Don't like democracy? After all it isn't ONE family who have been our kings and queens, it's TWO, so you DO have a choice you know?
We don't do "best" any more in an oligarchical democracy any way. We do Kings and Queens now.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
9. It depends upon what the meaning of the word "can" is.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 08:32 AM
Jun 2016

It's certainly either (a) the best we have done; or (b) the best we've been given to believe we have done.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
11. The problem isn't dynasties, but the superficial nature of our politics
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 09:17 AM
Jun 2016

It's not exactly a dynasty when the later candidates still have to run. They may face serious opponents for the nomination (as in the cases of George W. Bush and Hillary Clinton) or even get totally stomped (Jeb!). It's still up to the voters.

The problem I see is that, in our celebrity-oriented culture, people with high name recognition, for whatever reason, are much more likely to be taken seriously as candidates. Of the three candidates I named above, each was greatly helped by his or her family relationship to a President. Now you can add a candidate who hosted a reality TV show but who's never held government office or even been notable in public affairs (in the way that, say, Ralph Nader and Pat Buchanan were). Then, of course, there was Ronald Reagan.

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sangfroid

(212 posts)
15. Yup
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 09:18 PM
Jun 2016

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It's called a dynasty and here I thought we had this big Revolution and stuff to get rid of this kind of crapola. What's next? Watching Game of Thrones for political tips?

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