Bernie Sanders
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As such, the Presidency will have been controlled by only 2 families (Bushes & Clintons) for a period of 24 of the 32 years........with a brief 8 year pause by the Obama presidency.
Is this the best we can do?
babylonsister
(171,059 posts)I am just tired of the same ole.
Thanks from me to President Obama for interfering!
Jackilope
(819 posts)A year and a half ago figured it would be Hillary vs Jeb. Depressing. Bernie entering has been a breath of fresh air and inspiring. Many, many people would choose a none of the above in a HRC vs Trump campaign.
This is what happens when corporations own both parties.
Arazi
(6,829 posts)And Madame President will be on her way to becoming labelled the worst president ever for her failure to aggressively lead on climate change initiatives.
jg10003
(976 posts)SheilaT
(23,156 posts)Two years ago when she was first gearing up to run, and when so many here were so ga-ga over her, I expressed concern that there were simply no new potential candidates out there. The only names that were put forth for the longest time were those who'd been around before, had already run: Clinton, Kerry, Gore.
It's as if not a single new Democrat has been elected to higher office since 2000. Among the reasons I wanted Elizabeth Warren to run, and why I so whole-heartedly supported (and still support) Bernie Sanders, is that neither one was a tired presence in the world of politics. Even though Bernie Sanders has been in elected office since 1981, he wasn't really on the national stage and that made him a refreshing newcomer.
Equally disturbing are the predictions that Chelsea Clinton or either of the Obama girls will run for office in a few years.
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)The new generation of younger Democrats are not completely bought into and fully assimilated into the establishment. That is why we get the Clintons, the Kerrys, the Gores, etc. Obama was just a fluke and the establishment never thought Sanders would gain as much popularity and momentum as he did.
LiberalArkie
(15,715 posts)for a bit. The house sitter gets to make a few decisions about the house and estate as the owners are gone, but not big ones. The owners will be back soon.
Hydra
(14,459 posts)It was just a fight over the corner office by 2 people in the same company.
ms liberty
(8,573 posts)RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)Don't like American Royalty? Don't like democracy? After all it isn't ONE family who have been our kings and queens, it's TWO, so you DO have a choice you know?
We don't do "best" any more in an oligarchical democracy any way. We do Kings and Queens now.
merrily
(45,251 posts)It's certainly either (a) the best we have done; or (b) the best we've been given to believe we have done.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)It's not exactly a dynasty when the later candidates still have to run. They may face serious opponents for the nomination (as in the cases of George W. Bush and Hillary Clinton) or even get totally stomped (Jeb!). It's still up to the voters.
The problem I see is that, in our celebrity-oriented culture, people with high name recognition, for whatever reason, are much more likely to be taken seriously as candidates. Of the three candidates I named above, each was greatly helped by his or her family relationship to a President. Now you can add a candidate who hosted a reality TV show but who's never held government office or even been notable in public affairs (in the way that, say, Ralph Nader and Pat Buchanan were). Then, of course, there was Ronald Reagan.
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It's called a dynasty and here I thought we had this big Revolution and stuff to get rid of this kind of crapola. What's next? Watching Game of Thrones for political tips?