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(7,321 posts)
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 02:09 AM Jun 2016

Hey Berner's, psst..

I just found out tonight that Alameda County (East Bay Oakland, etc) Barbara Lee's district just flipped for Bernie, and some precincts in San Francisco. which were all "reported" to be Hillary victory's last week.

What's weird is that the website for my district (Alameda CA 13) when I checked in late last week, said 100% reported and I think it was like 56% for HRC and 44% for Bernie, which I thought was kind of weird, because this is a really progressive district.

So tonight I find out that umm, well let's just say "mistakes" were made.. and now it's a Bernie win, and that there are number of other Counties undergoing some major corrections as well.

I find that very interesting. I'd thought you'd like to know.

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(7,321 posts)
5. Apparently, they're still counting. !!!!
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 02:34 AM
Jun 2016

I know there's been a load of other posts talking about it..

But I've been guilty of overlooking those posts, not keeping up with the details, I've been sort of looking ahead with the movement and trying to accept she's the nom by hook or by crook doesn't really matter, right?

At the end of the day it's what it is.

But California is still in play after all. And apparently some other states as well.

So, I'm realizing that explains why Bernie didn't concede last night.

It's not actually over.


(39,451 posts)
8. If only this was happening in all states. What I wouldn't give to know how Arizona voted.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 02:37 AM
Jun 2016

There was a lot of support for Bernie and Jane in my state.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
12. It is un-American to count votes..
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 07:32 AM
Jun 2016

Because America has become a corporate oligarchy.

We should only have paper ballots that are always audited along with mandatory, independent exit polls.


(45,251 posts)
7. Cali knows filing of a RICO lawsuit is being delayed until Cali's votes are counted.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 02:37 AM
Jun 2016

Nonetheless, results of a primary held after a winner has been declared are dubious, at best.

The announcement depressed turnout and people like to vote for the candidate they believe will win the primary. It wasn't only AP at the last minute, either. The public has been brainwashed since 2012 that Hillary would be the Democratic Presidential nominee if she wanted the nomination.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
13. Haha
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 07:33 AM
Jun 2016

That could also be said when the minute the polls are open. That is, 100% of precincts are partially reporting is meaningless.



(7,321 posts)
19. Indeed. I'm thinking they're going to be some major changes following this primary
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 04:32 PM
Jun 2016

It may have to be forced vis a vis lawsuits. I hope not.



(7,321 posts)
15. My District said 100% Reported, last week.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 10:00 AM
Jun 2016

Apparently 100% "Reported" doesn't mean 100% COUNTED. !!!!

Talk about a very serious piece of misinformation given an a "official" appearance on a government website.



(20,340 posts)
17. Yeah, it doesn't include all the votes by mail
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 03:32 PM
Jun 2016

So there are millions of those they are still counting. It would certainly be nice to put CA in the win column for Bernie, but he still needs a bunch of SDs to flip.



(7,321 posts)
18. Sure, I'm less concerned about the SD's then the actual delegates at this point.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 04:29 PM
Jun 2016

The actual earned delegates should be (to my mind) de facto tally.

In so far as the ethical standards of votes earned - and the leverage needed for the SD's to see the error of their ways - or risk the fall out from failing to do so.

The metaphoric equivalent to pitchforks come to mind.


(7,769 posts)
14. Why does the Hillary and Bernie vote total more than Dem votes cast in Alameda County?
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 09:21 AM
Jun 2016

By over 34k?

The only ones who could vote in the Democratic Presidential Primary were supposed to be Democrats (284k ballots cast) and Non-Partisan affiliates (26.7K ballots cast), right?

Bernie now seems to have lost to Clinton in Alameda County by 11K votes, with the total number of votes for both are 318,844.

If every Non-Partisan voted in the Democratic Primary in Alameda County, that still leaves over 8K votes that came from where?



(7,321 posts)
16. "Mistakes" I guess.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 10:12 AM
Jun 2016

I cannot answer your question.

Why did it say 100% Reported last week? Showing HRC at something like 56% and Bernie at 44% in one of the most progressive districts in the state?

only to learn that the counting wasn't even completed?!? one week following my check in at the Alameda CA13 county is showing a very different outcome.

The take away for everyone across the board, is simple and logical. An election result cannot possibly be called the minute polls have closed, or even a few hours later.

In a state the size of California, in terms of POPULATION alone?

Absolutely No One can call the election results with anything close to accuracy until all the ballots are counted, and there's no way it can be accomplished within a day or two even. Much less expect the results within minutes of polls closing.

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