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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
1. I don't understand this... that would be a reasonable thing to require if...
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 11:53 AM
Oct 2017

Sanders and/or King decide to run in the next DEMOCRATIC Party primary. Why is that resolution so controversial?

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
3. Sorry Donk, I'm not following you... what does not having to declare party affiliation,
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 01:16 PM
Oct 2017

as a requirement to VOTE in Vermont's open primary, have to do with the requirement proposed, and defeated, by the DNC that a candidate for office declare him or herself a Democrat to get the benefits that the DNC bestows upon its candidates? That doesn't seem all that unreasonable to me - not that I mind maintaining the status quo either - or, do I have that wrong?

Autumn

(45,082 posts)
4. I don't get the sudden problem with him being an Independent. Bernie has always been an
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 01:44 PM
Oct 2017

Indy but has always worked and caucused with the Dems. I'm wondering what the issue was.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/10/20/democrats-reject-proposal-to-force-bernie-sanders-to-join-the-party/

The resolution, introduced by three DNC members from California, attracted attention this week as one more skirmish between supporters of Hillary Clinton during the 2016 Democratic Primary and supporters of Sanders. Bob Mulholland, the DNC member who pitched the resolution to the committee, argued that Democrats were losing potential votes by letting progressive voters work outside the party.


I don't see how the Democrats are losing potential votes by Bernie being an Independent so I think there must have been more behind this.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
5. Oh okay, I see what you're saying... not sure what the answer is and the motivation behind it.
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 01:49 PM
Oct 2017

btw, you catch the news about Tom Perez cleaning house at the DNC? Holy crap!!

Donkees

(31,405 posts)
7. Maybe you are thinking mainly in terms of Presidential Primaries, but this resolution would also
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 04:30 PM
Oct 2017

apply to state elections next year. It may have something to do with the Vermont Progressive Party having a big influence, the other coalitions in the state, etc.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
9. I get that, after doing some more reading about the DNC requirement that was under consideration.
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 06:15 PM
Oct 2017

I'm just trying to understand the reasoning BEHIND the DNC's proposal of that requirement. You think that by forcing Bernie to run under the "Democratic" banner, as opposed to running as an "Independant," the thinking was that, somehow, this would ease acceptance among the majority of DNC members of his running for, and successfully capturing, the Democratic nomination for President in 2020?

Donkees

(31,405 posts)
10. Probably has more to do with millenials caring less about party loyalty or identity than previous
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 09:14 PM
Oct 2017

generations.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
11. That is SO true... but they DO love them some Bernie ... as my two kids like to say...
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 10:44 PM
Oct 2017

he talks "straight dope" while "keepin it real."

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
6. The DNC doesn't have the power to impose requirements on Vermont's ballot access
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 03:29 PM
Oct 2017

In past elections, Bernie has chosen to run in the Democratic primary, has won it, has declined the nomination, and has won in November as an independent. Some people on the DNC don't like that but that's their tough luck.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
12. The more this goes on
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 04:03 PM
Oct 2017

The more Bernie bashing the more I'm convinced , in hindsight, he should have ran as an Independent in 2016.

Why not?
He's catching hell anyway.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
13. Because of this convoluted
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 10:54 AM
Oct 2017

and ridiculously expensive system, the required infrastructure to support an independent assault is insurmountable. Had the DNC played FAIR with Bernie, we'd be living in a totally different dimension than we're now suffering.

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