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[Ken Burch]

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[bluestateguy]

2. No and no.

nt

[Catherina]

3. LMAO! The desperation train just keeps increasing speed

The good news is pretty soon it's going to crash and burn.

[merrily]

8. Desperation was my thought. Also, divisiveness and immaturity.

[senz]

11. The desperation might get worse. Have you seen this morning's

Salon report on HRC & BLM?

http://www.salon.com/2015/08/18/watch_black_lives_matter_activists_confront_hillary_clinton_you_dont_tell_black_people_what_we_need_to_know/

[djean111]

4. No. Just from you. n/t

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

6. I've seen it once or twice elsewhere.

The notion that he's a guy who 'thinks he knows what's what, and won't listen to other people'. I don't think I saw it tied specifically to minorities at the time, though.

[Ken Burch]

17. My intent was just to let the group know of it...not to spread it. n/t.

[djean111]

18. I know that, really, it is just that this gets picked up and repeated and repeated and repeated and

repeated.....and, unlike actual baggage, pretty soon it is eagerly latched on to as truth.
I guess I have seen too many of those bullshit "I support Bernie, BUT" posts. I apologize.

[Divernan]

19. Don't repeat crap w/out including rebuttal IN the OP

Otherwise, it does smell of a "concern" post. I also found it interesting that you did not include a single link as proof that this is being actually put out as a new meme. Did you see it on DU? If elsewhere, where?

[Ken Burch]

20. It has been on here...I thought I might be doing more to spread it BY linking to it.

It's in the thread called "Why I'm NOT supporting Bernie" or something close to that.

I'm not a concern troller.

[mucifer]

5. His parents were holocaust survivors.

Doesn't sound like "father knows best" to me.

[merrily]

7. Senators call back people who call them? I'm lucky if I get a form email.

[TBF]

9. This is going to blow up in their faces

after all of this - the obvious shenanigans - how many people are really going to show up to vote for heir apparent Hillary?

She has the strong support of Wall Street, and some special interest groups. That's it. The $$$ may carry her through but how will that translate in the general?

I have a feeling 2016 is going to go very badly for democrats if this is the script.

[merrily]

10. If 2014 is any indication.....

[senz]

12. Bernie is NOT authoritarian.

Just the opposite: he stands up to the "authorities" in support of the people.

Now, Republicans, they're authoritarian. And I also get a whiff of that vibe from HC as well -- especially with her secretiveness and preference for the rich and famous. She doesn't seem to like ordinary people very much.

[azmom]

14. He is the voice of the people. Always has been.

[historylovr]

13. I've seen the "he talks at people, not to them" meme,

which now seems like laying the groundwork for this one. Lord, they're really getting desperate since the "he's a racist, misogynistic gun-humper" meme didn't play.

[senz]

15. Yes, he gives lots of speeches. That's talking "at" people, by definition, and they all do it.

But I've listened to him talking "to" people every Friday for years on the Thom Hartmann radio show. He's considerate, soft-spoken, and kind. He readily and comfortably admits when he doesn't have an answer. And he seems to have a gift for remembering people's names.

What a nice man; I can hardly believe he's running for president.

[historylovr]

16. I agree with you.

And I just roll my eyes when they say that, because, as you say, that's what speeches are.

[PicturingPolitics]

21. Constantly talking at people?

Speech definition: a formal address or discourse delivered to an audience.

They going to be disapointed when they see what the other candidates are up to as well.

[sabrina 1]

22. Ben, can I make a suggestion? Why feed these memes at all? They are having ZERO effect on Bernie

mainly because Bernie's supporters IGNORE THEM and keep moving forward, covering his events, focusing on the GOOD NEWS.

When we acknowledge these 'campaigns' we are giving them attention, rather than ignoring them and keep on CLIMBING.

I don't really care what the very expensive smear campaigners have to say. Ignore is the best way to destroy them.

But I'm getting tired of pointing this out frankly.

We help spread their garbage when we talk about it.

We have so much good stuff to keep talking about that will drown out their talking points, UNLESS we keep talking about them.

[Ken Burch]

23. Sorry. My intent was simply to let people know here

So that we wouldn't be blindsided.

Oh...and it's "Ken", not Ben. Ben Burch was a different guy.