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Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 01:45 AM Aug 2015

I have to laugh . . .

The local (city that shall not be named) for Bernie group has asked me not to post anything negative on their board. The negative part I posted was that the local Democratic Party (who cannot get a Democrat elected in a county where the majority is registered Democrat) put the brakes on the local organizing efforts because they, essentially, didn't have their shit together and they don't want anyone else organizing the local efforts if they can't control it. Anyway, I've been asked not to point out the local party efforts to control the local Bernie campaign by asking me not to point out the local party efforts to control the local Bernie campaign on a board controlled by the local party.

This is fucking insane.

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I have to laugh . . . (Original Post) Le Taz Hot Aug 2015 OP
The Entrenched are feeling a bit uncomfortable... SoapBox Aug 2015 #1
It's a control thing and it's a Hillary thing. Le Taz Hot Aug 2015 #2
There are plenty of Bernie supporters who believe he can win. Flying Squirrel Aug 2015 #8
I am too. Le Taz Hot Aug 2015 #10
People who say, I love Bernie but I am voting Hillary in the primary are not merrily Aug 2015 #13
Even the so-called Bernie supporters don't really believe he can win the nomination. left-of-center2012 Aug 2015 #11
Wow. That's the first time I fully understood that phrase. C Moon Aug 2015 #7
It is insane. nt malokvale77 Aug 2015 #3
the insanity is their desire to win that makes them loose olddots Aug 2015 #4
I wonder how many have been offered a nice six figure income. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #6
Sounds pretty par for the course with the DWS "we suck less" party jfern Aug 2015 #5
I'm sorry about that. Cleita Aug 2015 #9
Somehow this doesn't surprise me in the least. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #12
Attempts to deceive have marked this primary from the start. merrily Aug 2015 #14
Keep doing your thing - TBF Aug 2015 #15
As I have posted elsewhere, it seems to me that the ONLY reason that Bernie was accepted by the DNC djean111 Aug 2015 #16
^^^This^^^ SoapBox Aug 2015 #17
The second they named DWS as DNC Chair Le Taz Hot Aug 2015 #18
It has been pointed out elsewhere that we are just stoopids for saying DWS was appointed, because djean111 Aug 2015 #19
Well, in 2004, Le Taz Hot Aug 2015 #20
Thanks! That is exactly how I thought things got done. n/t djean111 Aug 2015 #21

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
1. The Entrenched are feeling a bit uncomfortable...
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 01:50 AM
Aug 2015

Or maybe they're Feel'n the Bern?!?



Sounds incredibly frustrating.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
2. It's a control thing and it's a Hillary thing.
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 01:55 AM
Aug 2015

Even the so-called Bernie supporters don't really believe he can win the nomination. They say that outright. Then people can't figure out why they can't get "organized?" I've been in politics too long to understand what's really going on.

That's OK. There's mutinous talk going on and I'm not even leading it. For once. LOL!

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
10. I am too.
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 03:58 AM
Aug 2015

It's why I'm doing what I can, despite the roadblocks (how little they know me), to get Bernie elected.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
13. People who say, I love Bernie but I am voting Hillary in the primary are not
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 07:52 AM
Aug 2015

supporting Bernie in this primary. They are undermining him.

Let's not let them get it twisted.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
11. Even the so-called Bernie supporters don't really believe he can win the nomination.
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 04:44 AM
Aug 2015

I'm a "so-called Bernie supporter" who thinks Bernie can win.
Clintonian tactics make him stronger and his followers work harder.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
9. I'm sorry about that.
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 03:46 AM
Aug 2015

I'm not feeling any Bernie control in my neck of the woods yet. Actually, many want to stop and talk about him when I'm wearing my Bernie Button. But so many around here are crazy about Trump too and that's horrifying.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
14. Attempts to deceive have marked this primary from the start.
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 07:54 AM
Aug 2015

Even before the start.

Just keep your eyes on the prize.

TBF

(32,591 posts)
15. Keep doing your thing -
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 08:52 AM
Aug 2015

they (anyone in any established position) are going to fight us all the way. Like Merrily said, eye on the prize.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
16. As I have posted elsewhere, it seems to me that the ONLY reason that Bernie was accepted by the DNC
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 09:18 AM
Aug 2015

was to pull in money and support from his supporters to the DNC and Hillary. And that his popularity, and the refusal of his supporters to accept the "but you will vote for Hillary, right?" mantra was not what they were expecting at all. That old "team player" thing does not work, because the results keep skewing towards Third Way Centrist. Which, of course, was intended, but we were not supposed to notice that. People who are just now taking an interest in politics, because of Bernie, see right through that.

And that is not an evil machination by Bernie supporters, it is the fact that the newly interested people look things up, they don't just accept what is shoved at them, they don't swallow the advertising and messaging like hungry baby birds. They don't just dutifully vote for the D. They see what the policies do to their lives.

Maybe both parties are due for an unraveling. Too bad both parties sold themselves to corporations and Wall Street, because it is clear to me that those entities hold the reins.

Oh, and anyone who could actually see DWS at work down here in Florida would not bother saying that if we elect Progressives locally, that would percolate up through the Party. DWS is there to put a stop to that; the DNC does influence the state organizations. DWS has even not supported Democrats in local elections because she was buddies with the GOP opponents. THAT is our DNC chair.

The Florida Progressive caucus here was threatened with losing its caucus standing if it persisted in backing Alan Grayson against just-turned-Dem in 2012 Patrick Murphy. He only turned Dem because the GOP would not back him against Allan West. NOT because he really wanted to be a Democrat. But he fits in well with the Third Way Centrists, who eagerly compromise downwards with the GOP.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
18. The second they named DWS as DNC Chair
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 09:58 AM
Aug 2015

I knew what time it was. Any other DNC Chair would have been fired after the 2014 mid-term elections but not ole Deb. They had a plan for her and she's doing EXACTLY what the puppets of the .001% are paying her to do -- do everything she can to tilt it towards Hillary.

I've said this before and I'll say it again, it's the reason I'm NOT a Democrat.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
19. It has been pointed out elsewhere that we are just stoopids for saying DWS was appointed, because
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 10:10 AM
Aug 2015

she was "elected". IMO the DNC had the same opportunity to vote for a range of other candidates as the Congressional Dem have, for voting for someone besides Schumer. The candidates have been decided upon before the votes are cast. I did hear rumors that Obama was not happy with DWS, but that asking for her to be replaced would have been labeled sexist or anti-Semitic. So who knows. I doubt she was Obama's choice, though, FWIW.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
20. Well, in 2004,
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 10:18 AM
Aug 2015

I was an Executive Board member of the California Democratic Party and was on the INSIDE when I saw what they did to Dean. It was monumentally ugly. His Also Ran second prize was the DNC party chair which they let him hold for a couple of years to be replaced by a corporate lackey, followed by another corporate lackey. We were told how to vote and that's how it was done and is still done.

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