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Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 12:24 AM Sep 2015

I just spent some serious time perusing The Political Pub on HillaryClintonSupporters.com

If you haven't already, please do so. You will see many familiar names you run across daily here at DU -- the site is HIGHLY enlightening and will let you see the true faces of those who you are are interacting with. Let me tell you: it ain't pretty. I have decided to use this learning opportunity to up my support for the Sanders campaign. I am now even more dedicated to making him our next President.

This is the reality of what we are up against from many of those in the Democratic Party. The threads are many, so poke around:

http://hillaryclintonsupporters.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=391

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I just spent some serious time perusing The Political Pub on HillaryClintonSupporters.com (Original Post) Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2015 OP
I saw the website Brock Kentman Sep 2015 #1
They are acting like jr high students only grosser. And some of them call themselves "liberal". rhett o rick Sep 2015 #249
That's precisely why I don't wish to waste my time there... MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #345
Bernie gets Warren as running mate laserhaas Sep 2015 #274
Disagree. Warren should be Treasury Secretary or something similar n/t eridani Nov 2015 #338
WOW thanks, looks like my DU ignore list mixed with FR. nt Snotcicles Sep 2015 #2
Wow Pharaoh Sep 2015 #3
and they REALLY HATE BERNIE, not just his supporters virtualobserver Sep 2015 #7
The antisemitic thread made me literally sick. BeanMusical Sep 2015 #51
Link?..nt Jesus Malverde Sep 2015 #131
It is inaccessible now. TM99 Sep 2015 #138
Thanks! Jesus Malverde Sep 2015 #141
And their voting against their own self interest Duckfan Nov 2015 #346
If they modify that thread or delete it, it's now archived online: BeanMusical Sep 2015 #301
here...brace yourself magical thyme Sep 2015 #221
Wowza Jesus Malverde Sep 2015 #223
i see many familiar names in the replies. Jesus Malverde Sep 2015 #231
the vast majority of posters over there that I recognize I had on ignore long before this magical thyme Sep 2015 #233
This message was self-deleted by its author ChisolmTrailDem Sep 2015 #319
I can't get in. I'm not registered and they aren't taking lob1 Nov 2015 #336
it means they closed their site to registered members only magical thyme Nov 2015 #337
It means they are 840high Jan 2016 #354
Love your avatar virtualobserver. Tommymac Sep 2015 #267
I am not proud of my huge ignore list olddots Sep 2015 #4
I go through cycles of madly adding to the Ignore list Demeter Sep 2015 #111
I have one person on ignore who was harassing me when I first “officially” joined dorkzilla Sep 2015 #135
Lots of ugly stuff over there. WIProgressive88 Sep 2015 #5
Post removed Post removed Sep 2015 #6
I can cut them a little slack....IMAGINE if your candidate was steadily dropping in the polls virtualobserver Sep 2015 #10
I still wouldn't behave like THAT! bvar22 Sep 2015 #243
I talk about Bernie Sanders to anyone and everyone Aerows Sep 2015 #258
Ditto - 840high Sep 2015 #22
How sad. One poster has too many Sanders supporters on his FaceBook. Autumn Sep 2015 #8
Isn't that everyone's Facebook? Fawke Em Nov 2015 #335
Looking at that site Art_from_Ark Sep 2015 #9
Haha! Message received! RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #255
Don't look back... artislife Sep 2015 #11
but its so quiet.....almost too quiet virtualobserver Sep 2015 #12
Ha ha ...Bernie looks scared in your post. artislife Sep 2015 #37
Agree 100% ornotna Sep 2015 #54
Your OP was alerted but I'm not inclined to lock it at this time. Autumn Sep 2015 #13
You can lock if you need to -- Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2015 #15
Well, I am not inclined to lock it either at this time. TM99 Sep 2015 #19
That's my thinking on it. If it stays civil and doesn't become Autumn Sep 2015 #21
GMTA! TM99 Sep 2015 #23
Yes they do. Autumn Sep 2015 #25
It's informative as the where some of the seemingly scripted talking points originated. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #84
I'm not inclined to lock it, either. Aerows Sep 2015 #52
So many people JackInGreen Sep 2015 #14
Yeah, that's the feeling I have as well. Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2015 #16
I agree. madfloridian Sep 2015 #47
Sure caught me by surprise...so sad to see. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2015 #340
Me, too. SusanaMontana41 Nov 2015 #343
Me too and a bit betrayed. Well, live and learn. nt Live and Learn Sep 2015 #48
My ignore list is packed with DUers who couldn't resist the urge to lie and deceive Trajan Sep 2015 #137
K&R nt 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #17
Reagan Democrats fbc Sep 2015 #18
yup,you're right wendylaroux Sep 2015 #20
If we don't get Bernie, I have a feeling it will not be just yet anothe primary lost to the neocons. merrily Sep 2015 #60
I agree. Without OWS would Bernie be doing so well now? fbc Sep 2015 #122
OWS did get more of wendylaroux Sep 2015 #192
OWS and annonamous. Then President Obama hope and jwirr Sep 2015 #242
When I voted for Obama, I didn't vote for "change" Scootaloo Sep 2015 #302
Totally agree on all statements. Thank you. BTW He cannot jwirr Sep 2015 #321
OWS and BLM are similar in that they are not formal organizations, but movements which-- eridani Nov 2015 #339
Tick tick tick.... Jesus Malverde Sep 2015 #133
Hillary, herself, is more of a Bush Democrat - Rockefeller east coast oligarch. No room in GOP for leveymg Sep 2015 #134
FYI Warren Stupidity Sep 2015 #246
I agree Jenny_92808 Jan 2016 #349
Hey I'm sixty plus and so are a lot of my friends and family unapatriciated Jan 2016 #353
somebody doesn't like this post marym625 Sep 2015 #24
You need to see this: CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2015 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author TDale313 Sep 2015 #32
It's been locked as Meta. BeanMusical Sep 2015 #57
LOL! Anyone could have posted that link, if he or she actually wanted to. merrily Sep 2015 #61
Nope. I put LiberalElite Sep 2015 #99
Good for you! Very smart move. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2015 #153
Me2 840high Jan 2016 #355
ick Change has come Sep 2015 #298
Well shit Old Codger Sep 2015 #27
+1 nt Live and Learn Sep 2015 #45
+2 BeanMusical Sep 2015 #59
I believe many people will vote for Bernie in the general, one way or the other. merrily Sep 2015 #62
I am voting for Bernie if I have to write him in nt LiberalElite Sep 2015 #97
That is indeed what I mean by one way or another. If he is not on the ballot, I believe merrily Sep 2015 #100
I like Jill Stein but there is not enough economic TBF Sep 2015 #224
Thinking more on this Old Codger Sep 2015 #125
Yes. I think you hit the nail on the head. hedda_foil Nov 2015 #342
My voting choices will not change based on stupidity by anyone who is not a candidate or their Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #101
I concur. They are really burning their bridges. fbc Sep 2015 #124
Not just burning but completely destroyed. TM99 Sep 2015 #126
Recover? DU would be better fbc Sep 2015 #127
These aren't the types to leave. TM99 Sep 2015 #130
How many good DU people have we lost hootinholler Sep 2015 #151
I don't know if I am 'good' but TM99 Sep 2015 #157
I was very happy to see your return! hootinholler Sep 2015 #161
Thanks! TM99 Sep 2015 #163
I agree. merrily Sep 2015 #199
"There goes a lot of people thought were worth some respect" bunnies Sep 2015 #156
You said it, bunnies Aerows Sep 2015 #295
by the way marym625 Sep 2015 #28
Probably the smart thing to do but I did read the site and am appalled Live and Learn Sep 2015 #53
agree with that marym625 Sep 2015 #58
I agree, marym. I have no problem with anyone checking it out. But we can't obsess. merrily Sep 2015 #63
yep. marym625 Sep 2015 #70
I am not going to focus on it, that's for sure. After reading just Cali's thread, merrily Sep 2015 #71
back at ya, marily! marym625 Sep 2015 #79
LOL! merrily Sep 2015 #81
It is not just the curiosity factor. It is the fact that these are people we thought of Live and Learn Sep 2015 #83
I completely understand marym625 Sep 2015 #86
I didn't mean to imply you disrespected anyone or anything. You never do. Live and Learn Sep 2015 #89
Thank you marym625 Sep 2015 #113
well put and I completely agree. It is really shocking, disappointing - and sad. NRaleighLiberal Sep 2015 #277
Well said, mary. smokey nj Sep 2015 #98
Thank you, smokey_nj marym625 Sep 2015 #115
Hear hear ... Trajan Sep 2015 #144
FABULOUS! marym625 Sep 2015 #145
Wow. That's an eye-opener. (N/T) Old Crow Sep 2015 #29
Yeah, but only one eye for me. cui bono Sep 2015 #39
Yuck. Old Crow Sep 2015 #46
+1 nt Live and Learn Sep 2015 #49
Thanks for the link. madaboutharry Sep 2015 #30
If it looks like Milliesmom Sep 2015 #31
IBTL Fearless Sep 2015 #33
I see no reason for a lock. If anything those users should be banned as trolls Live and Learn Sep 2015 #41
I wasn't really serious, more tongue and cheek Fearless Sep 2015 #65
Apparently, some think it should be locked so I just wanted to get my opinion across just in case. Live and Learn Sep 2015 #68
Yes. The false equivalencies we see daily are lies. merrily Sep 2015 #75
it is so sad. puma x tan roguevalley Sep 2015 #34
Wow, I wonder if Skinner has seen the site. They are using it to disparage DU and Live and Learn Sep 2015 #35
Yup. It is exactly like the Conservative Cave in that respect. cui bono Sep 2015 #40
I stole the gif in your sig line Aerows Sep 2015 #323
Hehe... cui bono Sep 2015 #324
I was actually wondering if he launched that site dreamnightwind Sep 2015 #69
I don't think Skinner is involved with it. I think he tries his human best to be fair. merrily Sep 2015 #76
That may be, but he is who he is dreamnightwind Sep 2015 #80
I know and have read other things online as well that may or may not be true. merrily Sep 2015 #85
I doubt Skinner has anyting to do with it passiveporcupine Sep 2015 #329
I would imagine that the virulent anti-Semitism alone would be repugnant to him. merrily Sep 2015 #72
I would think so too. And, you just renamed that site for me: Live and Learn Sep 2015 #73
Yes, I see what you mean. merrily Sep 2015 #78
+1. I don't share his views vis a vis HRC, but he's always struck me as being a decent guy. n/t winter is coming Sep 2015 #245
rapists outed themselves here and even with personal messages to him by many including roguevalley Sep 2015 #261
wonder who started wendylaroux Sep 2015 #197
Looks like they took steps to hide who they are. Live and Learn Sep 2015 #201
better still...who paid for it? questionseverything Sep 2015 #215
Well, we need to be mindful that the posters in the hillary clinton pub room are PatrickforO Sep 2015 #36
Well the thing is... Fearless Sep 2015 #38
And seriously, they are calling Sanders a man with no policy ideas, just 'fairy dust'? cui bono Sep 2015 #42
Your post reminds me of a funny story... PatrickforO Sep 2015 #44
"WTF are they smoking over there?" BeanMusical Sep 2015 #66
they come here, stir shit, then go there and mock people by name roguevalley Sep 2015 #188
"Fairy dust" = stuff our 1% betters don't want the 99% to have n/t eridani Sep 2015 #82
+all. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #105
They lost me at "he hates everyone" n/t arcane1 Sep 2015 #168
Yeah. Their problem is that Bernie beats Clinton hands down on issues. PatrickforO Sep 2015 #43
I would be embarrassed to be... grasswire Sep 2015 #50
... Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #107
Shame is not their lot in life Prism Sep 2015 #198
They like much of the status quo. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #103
So we’re “lazy and clueless”? dorkzilla Sep 2015 #139
I noticed that too. WTH? In 2008 there was division between Obama and HRC supporters.... Jackilope Sep 2015 #265
Same here, Jackilope! dorkzilla Sep 2015 #309
Such piles of drivel betrays a shocking level of desperation in Camp Weathervane. snagglepuss Sep 2015 #55
Well one of them, at least, Art_from_Ark Sep 2015 #67
If we could just harness that long-windedness; put her in front of a windmill? Divernan Sep 2015 #162
mmmm mums grasswire Sep 2015 #214
We do know Old Codger Sep 2015 #152
I like the tread telling visitors from DU that DU doesn't OWN them.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #56
Hey now! You better fill out your fly fishing forum application!!!!! jeff47 Sep 2015 #212
I'm guessing Aerows Sep 2015 #293
You'd better not ask Aerows Sep 2015 #294
Over there I can blame beer.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #296
Hey, it doesn't shatter me... yuiyoshida Sep 2015 #64
A little ironic they're using the word cult jfern Sep 2015 #74
Suggested reading, better to know than not IMO dreamnightwind Sep 2015 #77
+1 Though, I would find it hard to believe the DU admin has given their consent. Live and Learn Sep 2015 #87
Sure, and I'm not saying they did, dreamnightwind Sep 2015 #88
Really surprising to me too. nt Live and Learn Sep 2015 #90
Live and learn, eh? dreamnightwind Sep 2015 #91
Always. Not always happy with what you learn though. nt Live and Learn Sep 2015 #92
Either they don't care, or they're aware that the admins don't ban DUers for things they winter is coming Sep 2015 #247
+1 Tommymac Sep 2015 #281
lol RandiFan1290 Sep 2015 #93
What a dope! How's that McCain and Palin presidency workin' out fer ya? Enthusiast Sep 2015 #95
Wow. I'm glad she's not my wife... PatrickforO Sep 2015 #164
I lasted 10 minutes HubertHeaver Sep 2015 #94
Like rolling around Free Republic. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #96
+1 nt Live and Learn Sep 2015 #106
The takeaway for me is to not even bother trying to convince them to pursue progressive policies. stillwaiting Sep 2015 #108
I have to think that people who push the 'it's the best we can do' line Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #110
Some people feel threatened by change. Any change. winter is coming Sep 2015 #248
LOL. Morbid curiosity led me there... PatrickforO Sep 2015 #165
Read a bit of it. They have gone 'round the bend. djean111 Sep 2015 #102
+1 nt Live and Learn Sep 2015 #104
Authoritarianism feeds sadism and masochism, hence the hostility carolinayellowdog Sep 2015 #149
I believe it is authoritarian behavior. Our culture produces many compliant authoritarians. rhett o rick Sep 2015 #226
And . . . the first one I clicked on Le Taz Hot Sep 2015 #109
They don't campaign for her votesparks Sep 2015 #112
I'm not so sure that it's an "old" thing Le Taz Hot Sep 2015 #118
the particular poster you are talking about isn't in the US marym625 Sep 2015 #177
Gad it just figures. Puglover Sep 2015 #117
HRC or any one of her wealthy supporters have enough money to have an army of paid trolls snagglepuss Sep 2015 #132
We already know the campaign is buying fake Facebook and Twitter followers n/t arcane1 Sep 2015 #171
Why campaign when she's inevitable? jeff47 Sep 2015 #216
A good link to have handy when the Hillarians call Sanders supporters "haters" Doctor_J Sep 2015 #114
Of course it is. Puglover Sep 2015 #123
They clearly feel that Hillary (and by extension, themselves) are entitled to victory. Maedhros Sep 2015 #167
Not just entitled to victory passiveporcupine Sep 2015 #330
Wow, more projection going on there than at your local megaplex nxylas Sep 2015 #116
Looks like 2008 all over again. GoneOffShore Sep 2015 #119
Yes. You'll see me, for instance. ismnotwasm Sep 2015 #120
So, do you ever, like, get out an campaign for her? Le Taz Hot Sep 2015 #121
s/he can't respond marym625 Sep 2015 #142
Buh-bye. smokey nj Sep 2015 #136
Really? polly7 Sep 2015 #148
Thanks for the screen shot. smokey nj Sep 2015 #150
You're welcome, polly7 Sep 2015 #154
I don't think anyone here took the invitation seriously, but I think that ugliness needs to be smokey nj Sep 2015 #158
They sure are. nt. polly7 Sep 2015 #159
And to think you're on the present MIRT team Oilwellian Sep 2015 #182
Seems your hate is not contained to DU's Sanders supporters... cui bono Sep 2015 #264
At least we can just put that person on ignore... TheFarS1de Sep 2015 #276
Wow. Just wow. Tommymac Sep 2015 #279
Lol Jesus Malverde Sep 2015 #128
A message to Hillary fans who are distraught that people just don't like their favorite candidate fbc Sep 2015 #129
Omg, my ignore list is also there. Duppers Sep 2015 #140
Considering the hate and anti-semetism spewed there, HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #143
The site might prove a useful resource when investigating potential collusion Maedhros Sep 2015 #170
I don't think they'll have any influence. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #175
You are absolutely correct. They should not be on MIRT. cui bono Sep 2015 #269
According to one of the screen shots... HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #271
Yeah, I saw that. That should get him kicked off MIRT, but it's DU, so it won't, I'm sure. cui bono Sep 2015 #272
They have 8 donations Aerows Sep 2015 #327
Someone noticed yesterday, can't recall who... Oilwellian Sep 2015 #178
1) MIRT can't do anything to long-term DUers (I forget the cutoff) jeff47 Sep 2015 #218
100 posts. And the admins keep tabs on what's going on in MIRT. n/t winter is coming Sep 2015 #250
They do? n/t Aerows Sep 2015 #303
They did when I served on MIRT. As with the rest of DU, though, they usually winter is coming Sep 2015 #312
A few of them are *ON* MIRT. n/t Aerows Sep 2015 #300
WOW. TBF Sep 2015 #146
And some of them are on MIRT here: TBF Sep 2015 #147
That is disconcerting to say the least! n/t TM99 Sep 2015 #155
That is a blatant CONFLICT OF INTEREST and those people should be removed from MIRT! nt ChisolmTrailDem Sep 2015 #160
Yes! HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #166
Seems wrong to serve on MIRT while also compiling lists of people to alert-stalk. arcane1 Sep 2015 #172
Agreed. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #176
I have other political sites I read and post TBF Sep 2015 #310
There you have it Oilwellian Sep 2015 #179
To MIRT: If you are member of that other website, you need to resign RIGHT NOW! nt ChisolmTrailDem Sep 2015 #181
Completely agree n/t Oilwellian Sep 2015 #183
That would show a modicum of integrity. Ain't gonna happen marym625 Sep 2015 #320
This message was self-deleted by its author marym625 Sep 2015 #315
Are they really doing that??? They must resign, immediately! nt ChisolmTrailDem Sep 2015 #318
+100000000 HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #189
I wonder if the admins, who are Clinton supporters themselves. stacked the MIR totodeinhere Sep 2015 #204
I don't believe that for a minute. I've served on MIRT. winter is coming Sep 2015 #252
No. They didn't. There are plenty on both sides and many uncommitted. uppityperson Sep 2015 #292
I don't think EarlG would do that - TBF Sep 2015 #311
It's like republicans infiltrating local government. It's the Scott Walker model. Hate Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #213
Wow! At least five of them are on there that I can see. cui bono Sep 2015 #270
doesn't it make ya glad it is just the net? questionseverything Sep 2015 #278
Fuck. TheFarS1de Sep 2015 #280
Just got another SOP alert on this thread. smokey nj Sep 2015 #169
You have a stronger constitution than I have. I lasted 20 minutes and had seen enough. arcane1 Sep 2015 #173
no fewer than three alerts on this post from Hillary Clinton supporters marym625 Sep 2015 #174
I have not posted or replied to even one thread about the primary lapfog_1 Sep 2015 #180
Some of the members at the other site... HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #187
That's most likely why the most-used forum is members-only now arcane1 Sep 2015 #190
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Sep 2015 #184
I used to think that ultimately we were all on the same side. bunnies Sep 2015 #185
Here the O'Jays can explain it Snotcicles Sep 2015 #186
Yep. bunnies Sep 2015 #191
Yep been around these parts for awhile, never felt this betrayed before. nt Snotcicles Sep 2015 #194
The neoliberal Third Way DLC New Dems TM99 Sep 2015 #193
And they will, apparently, do anything to win n/t arcane1 Sep 2015 #195
Haven't they always? TM99 Sep 2015 #196
I have those OPs bookmarked so I can dive into them this weekend. bunnies Sep 2015 #200
They are damned fine OP's TM99 Sep 2015 #202
Which wholly spans my entire voting life. bunnies Sep 2015 #206
I turned 18 about a decade before you. TM99 Sep 2015 #207
Heh. Me? I saw Bill on MTV. bunnies Sep 2015 #209
I had lots of friends that did. TM99 Sep 2015 #211
I wish my parents had been more into politics when I was a kid. bunnies Sep 2015 #217
I turned 18 at the very end of '90 Aerows Sep 2015 #328
Turns out I already have most of those posters on ignore. liberal_at_heart Sep 2015 #203
How can those people be so stupid? Don't they realize that if Hillary should get the nomination totodeinhere Sep 2015 #205
They know they can tell us that we have to vote for the nominee or risk allowing the liberal_at_heart Sep 2015 #210
That's my plan. ladyVet Nov 2015 #347
They need us if she wins, but from the last time she ran (against Obama) I can LiberalArkie Sep 2015 #239
One of them posted that Bernie and his Supporters should be purged if he should lose the primary... Tommymac Sep 2015 #282
Centrist neolib Democrats have had it all their way for 25 years. pa28 Sep 2015 #208
Really quite sad. They've recreated that which many supposedly despise - the Cave Dumpster. NRaleighLiberal Sep 2015 #219
Wow, that is disturbing. Bettie Sep 2015 #220
Here is proof they're alert stalking DUers there: beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #222
hey skinner DonCoquixote Sep 2015 #228
There are more, here's the link to the thread: beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #230
Skinner has more than once said there is "no evidence" this is happening arcane1 Sep 2015 #237
well, in klight of wehat happened to bravenak DonCoquixote Sep 2015 #268
Are you saying bravenak was alert stalked? cui bono Sep 2015 #275
er, please tell me you are not ignorant DonCoquixote Sep 2015 #285
That's not the same thing. cui bono Sep 2015 #287
I agree! HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #273
Fucking disgusting dorkzilla Sep 2015 #238
We all knew they were after cali and now we have proof. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #240
and they’re locking down threads. When the light comes on the cockroaches all run. dorkzilla Sep 2015 #241
I'm an asshole... cui bono Sep 2015 #304
George II?? And is Bill "William769"? Trying to "prod" cali into her 5th hide. rhett o rick Sep 2015 #254
It's the hypocrisy. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #256
I think they hate Cali a lot because she is so intelligent and so Vattel Sep 2015 #283
I agree. nm rhett o rick Sep 2015 #290
Yes, she's a sharp one and doesn't suffer fools. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #308
That is why they hate Beam Me Up Scottie too passiveporcupine Sep 2015 #332
The site admin really need to remove these subversive shills TheFarS1de Sep 2015 #284
watch william openly defy people to report him to the admins on cali's thread... MoveIt Sep 2015 #288
Who would have guessed passiveporcupine Sep 2015 #331
No, thanks. Any DUer over there you want to draw attention to is someone who's already winter is coming Sep 2015 #225
+100 marym625 Sep 2015 #317
Wow, that's a perfect place to send a psychology student who doesn't understand "projection" corkhead Sep 2015 #227
And I just took half of those off ignore here libodem Sep 2015 #229
Well Babel_17 Sep 2015 #232
This is sad. One suggests we leave the party, we aren't Democrats anyway. madfloridian Sep 2015 #234
And a member of MIRT Aerows Sep 2015 #235
the funny thing.....I have seen multiple accusations that Bernie people try to manufacture hides virtualobserver Sep 2015 #236
Actually, if there are more of us than there are of them... Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #253
Thanks, better you than me. bvar22 Sep 2015 #244
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Sep 2015 #251
LOL! right out of the blocks. OnyxCollie Sep 2015 #257
Who is trying to silence who ? Truprogressive85 Sep 2015 #259
At least the inhabitants of that island of rotting organic matter MannyGoldstein Sep 2015 #291
Just wait until only the dead enders are left jfern Sep 2015 #306
The woman in that thread hounded me artislife Sep 2015 #325
My eyes! I've had almost all of those people on ignore for years Catherina Sep 2015 #260
I almost feel like.... smiley Sep 2015 #262
Agreed. What a swamp. Tommymac Sep 2015 #289
WOW - delusional left-of-center2012 Sep 2015 #263
Fascinating link. truebluegreen Sep 2015 #266
I have impeccable taste lol MoveIt Sep 2015 #286
Sickened. Betrayed. Feel sorry for them. R. P. McMurphy Sep 2015 #297
Me too. Tommymac Sep 2015 #299
Why would I go there? I have all of them, and more. on ignore on DU! Zorra Sep 2015 #305
Its the DINO version of FreeRepublic! YabaDabaNoDinoNo Sep 2015 #307
As of now, 6089 views, 313 replies and 106 recs. merrily Sep 2015 #313
Ha! Look at this projection! dorkzilla Sep 2015 #314
They are at least saner than this other group DeeDeeNY Sep 2015 #316
The pink background is .... artislife Sep 2015 #326
Jesus H. Christ on a Pogo stick! NealK Sep 2015 #322
Their candidate must be so proud of them Omaha Steve Sep 2015 #333
kicking because it doesn't matter how long ago pure hatred is spewed. cui bono Nov 2015 #334
K&R InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2015 #341
I'm not willing to register at that website. Blue_In_AK Nov 2015 #344
Kicking arcane1 Dec 2015 #348
Supposedly you have to register to view the site eridani Jan 2016 #350
That's just a site for pathetic trolls. morningfog Jan 2016 #351
Demands That Citizens Register To View - This Citizen Will Not Validate That Perspective cantbeserious Jan 2016 #352
K&R Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #356
I guess Donald Trump isn't the only one ducking out on debate in an open forum. Binkie The Clown Jan 2016 #357
 

Brock Kentman

(48 posts)
1. I saw the website
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 12:34 AM
Sep 2015

They really don't get it. Where is Clinton's crossover appeal? Even women aren't supporting Clinton by a growing margin on a daily basis. I really feel sorry for them.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
249. They are acting like jr high students only grosser. And some of them call themselves "liberal".
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 08:14 PM
Sep 2015

I hope there isn't a similar site for Sanders. They are afraid to discuss issues so they rely on hate. It's clearly authoritarian behavior. They will follow their leader Clinton anywhere regardless of her stands on issues. Ask any of them how Clinton stands on a specific and they are unable to respond.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
345. That's precisely why I don't wish to waste my time there...
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 11:13 PM
Nov 2015

I've been through highs school, and I've been around small minds all my life. Can't be doing me any good to indulge more.

Besides, I'd have to register, and beside THAT, I can guess who said what.. These people are pretty see-through.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
138. It is inaccessible now.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 10:52 AM
Sep 2015

They have started locking down some of their forums to hide such threads from public eye.

I read it as well before they did it, and I was disgusted by the blatant anti-Semitism.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
223. Wowza
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 05:35 PM
Sep 2015



Classic anti-Semitism. I think it's one thing to explore his faith and background as it pertains to issues. To say he is running to server the state of Israel, the poster is either a plant or the right wing of the Democratic Party is really embracing the "right" part.

And now that I've digested that steaming pile of an OP, I'm going back to read the comments on that thread to see how deep the histeria runs.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
231. i see many familiar names in the replies.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 06:01 PM
Sep 2015

Shame on them for participating in such a disgustingly racist thread. Not one person called it out.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
233. the vast majority of posters over there that I recognize I had on ignore long before this
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 06:13 PM
Sep 2015

there are a couple I had not interacted much or seen much before lately. They seem to be picking up the slack for the rest though. I'd put them on ignore too, but I prefer continuing to put facts against their attempted smears.

Response to magical thyme (Reply #221)

lob1

(3,820 posts)
336. I can't get in. I'm not registered and they aren't taking
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 03:20 AM
Nov 2015

any new registrations at this time. I wonder what that means?

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
337. it means they closed their site to registered members only
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 04:51 AM
Nov 2015

back right around when I posted that link iirc. But there are a couple other ways in if you search around enough....or if you are a "mole."

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
267. Love your avatar virtualobserver.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 09:58 PM
Sep 2015

Did you make it? I can only imagine what those on that site would say about it (and you).

I copied it and wondering if I may use it too?

#feelthebern

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
4. I am not proud of my huge ignore list
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 12:35 AM
Sep 2015

most of the people posting at that site I have had on ignore for years before this election cycle , their veiws on most issues here are very different than mine .I want no part of them .

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
111. I go through cycles of madly adding to the Ignore list
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 07:57 AM
Sep 2015

and when I feel guilty, I go back and unIgnore a few that I don't remember...who never show up again.

I figure they were sock puppets and trolls who went to find greener pastures.

My Ignore list is now full of names I recognize and remember as being supremely unfit for consideration...and alas, it's still growing.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
135. I have one person on ignore who was harassing me when I first “officially” joined
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 10:05 AM
Sep 2015

Was basically following me from thread to thread, alternately calling me a troll and ridiculing every one of my opinions. I haven’t added to it since.

May be time to re-think that...

Response to Hell Hath No Fury (Original post)

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
243. I still wouldn't behave like THAT!
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 07:49 PM
Sep 2015

I wold be out expending shoe leather to help my candidate instead of making up rancid shit to post on a sick site.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
258. I talk about Bernie Sanders to anyone and everyone
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 08:59 PM
Sep 2015

I come in contact with. At the beauty salon, the post office, getting an oil change, waiting for a fast food order - anywhere.

Shoe leather is anywhere you go, my friend. If you are a runner, chat with other runners and athletes you encounter on the trail. There is literally no reason not to assert that you are a Bernie supporter and to tell people why you support him.

You can't always counteract lies, but you can always tell the truth, and that goes a long way.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
335. Isn't that everyone's Facebook?
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 12:54 AM
Nov 2015

I know it's mine and these people were my friends before this election cycle.

Autumn

(45,072 posts)
13. Your OP was alerted but I'm not inclined to lock it at this time.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 01:06 AM
Sep 2015

That site seems to be about Bernie, his supporters, and this group so unless another host comes up with a reason to lock I am leaving this.

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
15. You can lock if you need to --
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 01:11 AM
Sep 2015

I just want folks to know the real feelings behind some of our fellow DUers so they can keep it in mind when replying to threads.

And of course it was alerted on.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
19. Well, I am not inclined to lock it either at this time.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 01:20 AM
Sep 2015

The post is not meta about DU. It is discussing another site that is attacking DU Sanders supporters.

No specific names have mentioned of member's here at DU, so for now, I see this as an informational post.

If it devolves into something else, then yes, I would suggest locking.

Autumn

(45,072 posts)
21. That's my thinking on it. If it stays civil and doesn't become
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 01:26 AM
Sep 2015

a call out fest I'm good with it.

Autumn

(45,072 posts)
25. Yes they do.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 01:33 AM
Sep 2015
Nothing wrong with being informed, it leads to clearer interactions when one knows where the other persons head is.
 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
52. I'm not inclined to lock it, either.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 02:40 AM
Sep 2015

I think people should see this and make their own judgments.

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
16. Yeah, that's the feeling I have as well.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 01:14 AM
Sep 2015

Been here a LONG time, and to see such venom addressed to fellow DUers is hard to see. But, important to see, as well.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
137. My ignore list is packed with DUers who couldn't resist the urge to lie and deceive
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 10:34 AM
Sep 2015

It's a shame, really ... But, oh well ... This is how ugly a human can be .... I don't need the liars and fibbers in my world, and now they are gone ...

 

fbc

(1,668 posts)
18. Reagan Democrats
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 01:16 AM
Sep 2015

Fortunately for the United States of America, most of them are 60+ and will exert less and less influence on politics as they die off.

Even if we don't get Bernie this time, their days are numbered. Real progressives are gradually taking over the democratic party.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
60. If we don't get Bernie, I have a feeling it will not be just yet anothe primary lost to the neocons.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 03:07 AM
Sep 2015

I am not 100% sure about that yet, but it's a growing feeling. Especially with the actions of the Super Delegates and DWS.

 

fbc

(1,668 posts)
122. I agree. Without OWS would Bernie be doing so well now?
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 09:30 AM
Sep 2015

OWS may not have accomplished anything, but I think these things build on previous organization.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
242. OWS and annonamous. Then President Obama hope and
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 07:09 PM
Sep 2015

change message - regardless if we did not understand that he was not what we thought he was that message helped get this movement started.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
302. When I voted for Obama, I didn't vote for "change"
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 02:36 AM
Sep 2015

It's next to impossible for a president to do anything to actually make big changes. it's just how the position works. And Obama... well, he wasn't going to be any sort of radical anyway. he did okay, still doing good - could have been better, but hey. Point is, I had no illusion that he was going ot come in and sweep the system.

I voted for "hope." Obama is someone I see as a wedge, a proverbial foot in the door. The first step on a road towards teturnign America to its progressive potentials. I'm supporting Bernie because i think he'll shove on the door that obama's foot is propping open. I have no idea that it'll work, none at all. But the hope counts for a lot. By contrast Clinton is, at best, stagnation. At worst she'll yank that foot out of the way and let the door slam shut in our faces.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
321. Totally agree on all statements. Thank you. BTW He cannot
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 11:14 AM
Sep 2015

do it alone - we need to protect his back and demand that Congress do what we want.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
339. OWS and BLM are similar in that they are not formal organizations, but movements which--
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:42 AM
Nov 2015

--intend to change the public conversation. They have done that without formal organization, though many of their members are also associated with regular organizations with officers, budgets, specific platforms, etc. We need both kinds of groups.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
134. Hillary, herself, is more of a Bush Democrat - Rockefeller east coast oligarch. No room in GOP for
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 09:57 AM
Sep 2015

that type of radical centrist, which we now know as the Third Way, so they colonized the Democratic Party. Wall Street hedges their bets.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
246. FYI
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 08:01 PM
Sep 2015

On Fri Sep 25, 2015, 07:45 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Reagan Democrats
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1280&pid=54734

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

We have a member who is rooting for other members to die off? How offensive, hurtful and inappropriate is that?

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Sep 25, 2015, 07:59 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I'm not offended.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Dear alerter, this may be a shock to you, but as you age your chances of dying increase until the probability that you are dead is in fact 1. Silly alert. Leave.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Are you serious? It's true...Reagan voters ARE old and poster isn't wishing them to die. Very, very poor alert. LEAVE.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: IMHO, the poster is wrong (and fails to appreciate the irony of people dying off to support an older candidate), but I don't think it's an alertable post.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I don't read it the same as the alerter. Voting to leave it.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Huh?
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: The alerter's comments did change my mind

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

 

Jenny_92808

(1,342 posts)
349. I agree
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 11:24 AM
Jan 2016

The reagan democrats were lured by bigoted speech portraying all help to the masses as having a black face.....appealing to the bigots among us. I know bigotry toward me for being a woman, but I do not know the greater bigotry for being a person of color. I am an American citizen and the closet immigrant in my family is my grandfather who immigrated from Sweden.

unapatriciated

(5,390 posts)
353. Hey I'm sixty plus and so are a lot of my friends and family
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 11:32 PM
Jan 2016

Every one of us are Sanders supporters, so don't use such a broad brush.

Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #26)

 

Old Codger

(4,205 posts)
27. Well shit
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 01:36 AM
Sep 2015

There goes a lot of people thought were worth some respect.. my ignore list just got tripled. I have seen Bernie given more respect by rethugs than that bunch. I may end up writing him in... I am so FUCKING tired of holding my nose and voting for someone I see as the lesser of 2 evils that IU am on the verge of just saying to hell with this shit it is not anything I believe in any longer...

I actually used to have some respect for some of them but that went down the shitter with that spiel ...

merrily

(45,251 posts)
62. I believe many people will vote for Bernie in the general, one way or the other.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 03:11 AM
Sep 2015

Either way, we have a new national conversation now.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
100. That is indeed what I mean by one way or another. If he is not on the ballot, I believe
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 06:50 AM
Sep 2015

many people will write him in. I think that is at least preferable to staying home, which the fuckers will interpret as laziness or some other lie. If anyone threatens not to vote at all, I always suggest writing in someone as better than staying home or leaving the top of the ticket blank.

I don't understand those who say they will switch from Bernie to Green. I am not sure even the Greens take themselves seriously anymore.

TBF

(32,058 posts)
224. I like Jill Stein but there is not enough economic
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 05:38 PM
Sep 2015

substance for me in their platform. I don't think they quite understand that the system is rigged and has to change - one way or another. Like Bernie I'd prefer a peaceful political transition. Maybe that's naive.

 

Old Codger

(4,205 posts)
125. Thinking more on this
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 09:34 AM
Sep 2015

What I see over there is a quite common theme that threads throughout society, if you cannot be that good yourself you need to attempt to knock others down you your level so that you can appear to be higher/better/more than they are, if your side of the argument has few redeeming qualities you need to denigrate the opposition in an attempt to gain higher ground... it is blatantly transparent and in the end does nothing but demean you.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
101. My voting choices will not change based on stupidity by anyone who is not a candidate or their
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 06:51 AM
Sep 2015

anointed surrogates. There are loud-mouth angry idiots who will support any candidate. Their idiocy is not dependent upon anything beyond themselves. It is not bestowed upon them by their choice of candidate.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
126. Not just burning but completely destroyed.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 09:38 AM
Sep 2015

They are calling those who have pointed this out here at DU stalkers now.

It is vitriol, name-calling, and serious amounts of projection.

I have never called a Clinton supporter a name. And the only 'name' I ever called Clinton was a 'narcissist' (which she is!), and I got a hide for that.

Some there that I once respected or at least thought nothing of in particular will certainly be untrustworthy now. I will put as many of them on Ignore as possible but the Jury Blacklist is not big enough for all of them. That really needs changing!

I don't see how DU will recover from this no matter who wins the primary.

 

fbc

(1,668 posts)
127. Recover? DU would be better
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 09:42 AM
Sep 2015

I don't think DU would lose much by losing those that encourage voting for the likes of Claire McCaskill and other DINOs

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
130. These aren't the types to leave.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 09:46 AM
Sep 2015

Healthy members won't post in an environment like this if that toxicity bleeds over to DU.

Who am I kidding? It already is and has.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
157. I don't know if I am 'good' but
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 12:04 PM
Sep 2015

I almost left for good myself.

I suppose it could still happen to if things get much worse.

Hopefully airing this will help the situation.

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
161. I was very happy to see your return!
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 12:24 PM
Sep 2015

Seriously and the way you were treated in the AA forum was horrid.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
163. Thanks!
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 12:34 PM
Sep 2015

If you are the 'right type' of PoC then you are welcome there.

It doesn't bother me. As a bi-racial man I have seen that type of bullshit with white and black communities my entire life.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
156. "There goes a lot of people thought were worth some respect"
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 12:04 PM
Sep 2015

Yeah. Wow. You got that right. At least the masks are off now.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
295. You said it, bunnies
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 12:20 AM
Sep 2015

At least we now know what they *really* think of us.

It makes me kind of sad that I've been played by some of them, but grateful I found out sooner rather than later.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
28. by the way
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 01:37 AM
Sep 2015

I'm not checking out the site because I could not possibly care less. It's for Hillary supporters. If they're doing that, don't care. If they're dissing Sanders, won't make a difference. If they're dissing du, whatever. If they're dissing people they have called friend, then their true colors will shine through in other ways, or, more than likely, already have.

I'm just going to support Sanders. Nothing and no one is going to stop me.



Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
53. Probably the smart thing to do but I did read the site and am appalled
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 02:41 AM
Sep 2015

and even more motivated to fight to get Bernie elected. There is no way I want a candidate to be elected by money and bullying.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
58. agree with that
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 03:04 AM
Sep 2015

I read enough here to know I don't care about what is there.

Bernie's integrity shines through every day. He will be our next President

merrily

(45,251 posts)
63. I agree, marym. I have no problem with anyone checking it out. But we can't obsess.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 03:12 AM
Sep 2015

Last edited Fri Sep 25, 2015, 03:43 AM - Edit history (1)

We need to focus. Besides, it is ennervating. Optimism, purpose and focus are energizing.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
70. yep.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 03:42 AM
Sep 2015

Last edited Sat Sep 26, 2015, 11:06 AM - Edit history (2)

I understand the curiosity factor. I'm sure the people there are doing just as they preach and not dissing someone that could be the democratic nominee. That they're not personally attacking anyone. That they're sticking to facts. They're not telling anyone what they should think it who they should vote for. And above all else, they're not attacking each other in private conversations. They're practicing what they preach.

So, that is the absolute last thing I'm saying about it and I'm not going to a site made for Hillary supporters.

On Edit: I said more. Didn't realize this would go on this long. But, I shouldn't have. Except to reply to a direct response to me, on this thread, I'm done with this. The people on MIRT that have openly dissed this site, about 90% of its members and have proven they're trying to force hides here, don't have the integrity to step down and should be removed. Other than that, I truly don't care what they're doing or who they are.

We are winning. Everywhere Senator Sanders goes, people fall in love with him. People are sick to death of it all being about, and always about, the money. They're sick to death of the marginalization of everyone that isn't a rich, straight, white, male. Bernie Sanders is the ONLY candidate that has always been on the right side of history. The ONLY candidate that has the integrity to do as he says and is not endorsing super pacs or taking Wall Street money. Money from corporations that are literally killing people.

So, let's move on and get Senator Bernie Sanders elected.

#Bernie2016
#FeelTheBern

merrily

(45,251 posts)
71. I am not going to focus on it, that's for sure. After reading just Cali's thread,
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 03:55 AM
Sep 2015

I had to take a shower. For me, obsessing about something like that is just not pleasant or healthy. I'd rather do something I enjoy, like giving hugs to my fellow Bernie Supporters.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
83. It is not just the curiosity factor. It is the fact that these are people we thought of
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:24 AM
Sep 2015

as like minded individuals. Some of them have been here for many years and were respected as real progressives. This is a big let down.

We've been through a lot on DU and been mainly in agreement on many issues and events like:

The Bush stolen election
9/11
The Iraq War lies
LGBT rights
Climate change


There has also been a level of infighting with issues like:

Occupy
Howard Dean
Michael Brown
gun rights
Black Lives Matter


We had the Pumas that started their own site but this is taking things to a new level of complete disrespect from people that we shared support with many of the issues.

It is really disheartening to those of us that have been around for a while to witness what I can only describe as a complete betrayal of DU principles by some of those we respected.





marym625

(17,997 posts)
86. I completely understand
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:31 AM
Sep 2015

And I meant no disrespect. I'm sorry if that came off as harsh.

In fact, I just told someone we're not locking this because of the very reasons you just stated. People are hurt, bewildered, disheartened. And the people feeling these things need a place to vent, to feel comradery, etc.

I agree too, that this is a whole new level of, well, I won't say it.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
89. I didn't mean to imply you disrespected anyone or anything. You never do.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:36 AM
Sep 2015

Just wanted to explain why some of us are taking this harder than others.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
113. Thank you
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 08:12 AM
Sep 2015

I try not to.

I understand completely. Frankly, it just shows how far right, the "center" left, has become. That alone is disheartening. Add in the personal aspect and it's bad. Just really bad.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
277. well put and I completely agree. It is really shocking, disappointing - and sad.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 10:27 PM
Sep 2015

But what it really drives home is how insecure some of them really are. And that's sad too.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
39. Yeah, but only one eye for me.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 01:52 AM
Sep 2015

The other eye saw that over here already by the same crew.

The one with the biggest meltdown that devolved into calling Sanders supporters white supremacists and then running to support Hillary (after pretending to be a Sanders supporter for quite some time) who she had said many times she really disliked, posted a truly nasty right wing smear of an opinion piece over there.

Old Crow

(2,212 posts)
46. Yuck.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 02:15 AM
Sep 2015

It's really disturbing to see that posters I've been reading over here, and have assumed were DU'ers in good faith, are essentially playing a two-faced game.

Why? Is it so much to ask that people just be themselves?

 

Milliesmom

(493 posts)
31. If it looks like
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 01:41 AM
Sep 2015

a Republican, if it sounds like a Republican, then it's a Republican in Dem clothes, LOL.
Just to be clear I'm referring to the people that made the awful comments about Bernie supporters.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
33. IBTL
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 01:41 AM
Sep 2015


Edit to add: Well that was also quite interesting reading! I never realized I was racist until a White "uppity" person told me I was for not supporting the current prison system like our next president Hillary Clinton.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
41. I see no reason for a lock. If anything those users should be banned as trolls
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 01:57 AM
Sep 2015

for using that site to disparage both DU and DU posters.

I don't usually use the ignore feature but after visiting that site, there are quite a few posters that I really don't need to see posts from on here anymore. It really is a shame. We have never made up things about Hillary like they are about Bernie and we have never called out her supporters like they are doing.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
35. Wow, I wonder if Skinner has seen the site. They are using it to disparage DU and
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 01:48 AM
Sep 2015

to say things that would never be allowed here. Their mantra really saddens me.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
40. Yup. It is exactly like the Conservative Cave in that respect.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 01:53 AM
Sep 2015

In other respects too, which makes it more pathetic.

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
69. I was actually wondering if he launched that site
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 03:41 AM
Sep 2015

though that seems unlikely, since William (I forget his full handle) seems to claim it, and since Skinner launched hillarymojo or whatever it's called.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
76. I don't think Skinner is involved with it. I think he tries his human best to be fair.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:13 AM
Sep 2015

I don't think he always is fair, but that's because he and I are both human. He's going fail sometimes and I am going to misperceive sometimes. But I do believe he tries. And I cannot believe he would tolerate anti-Semitic posts.

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
80. That may be, but he is who he is
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:21 AM
Sep 2015

and he is an avid Hillary supporter who started hillarymojo and who designed both the DLC website and the PPI website way back when.

If we follow the rules here it seems that he does respect that and in that sense I agree with you, but ideologically and professionally as far as I can tell (and I don't actually know much about him, just bits and pieces from hanging out on DU) he appears to be solidly in that camp. So anyway though I doubt he started it (for different reasons), I don't think it's any kind of a stretch, plus those posters are using their DU handles over there.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
85. I know and have read other things online as well that may or may not be true.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:26 AM
Sep 2015

Most of our elected officials are centrists. The owner of a board for Democrats is going to be one or the other. So, that in itself is not an issue for me, as long as he tries his best to be fair--and I think he does. JMO.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
73. I would think so too. And, you just renamed that site for me:
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:02 AM
Sep 2015

I will now refer to it as the repugnant site. Quite fitting, I think.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
261. rapists outed themselves here and even with personal messages to him by many including
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 09:32 PM
Sep 2015

me, he didn't ban them. So ...

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
201. Looks like they took steps to hide who they are.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:28 PM
Sep 2015

Domain Name: HILLARYCLINTONSUPPORTERS.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1953488036_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.enom.com
Registrar URL: www.enom.com
Updated Date: 2015-08-16T12:12:55.00Z
Creation Date: 2015-08-16T19:12:00.00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2016-08-16T19:12:00.00Z
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Registrar IANA ID: 48
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: WHOIS AGENT
Registrant Organization: WHOIS PRIVACY PROTECTION SERVICE, INC.
Registrant Street: PO BOX 639
Registrant Street: C/O HILLARYCLINTONSUPPORTERS.COM
Registrant City: KIRKLAND
Registrant State/Province: WA
Registrant Postal Code: 98083
Registrant Country: US

PatrickforO

(14,573 posts)
36. Well, we need to be mindful that the posters in the hillary clinton pub room are
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 01:49 AM
Sep 2015

exactly that - they are in the Hillary pub, and they are very partisan in their support for her.

We, on the other hand, or I guess the same hand, are in the Bernie room.

That's all cool, but one of the posters in the pub there says, "That view is based on their determination that they and ONLY they count. AAs don't count, Latinos don't count, anyone who doesn't uncritically accept Sanders as the Messiah has no value or, like their leader tells them, is a collaborator with the Kochs. For them, equality is not a goal. The only goal is for themselves to replace the existing elite. If they ever were successful, which we know they won't be, the results would be horrifying. If they weren't so lazy and clueless, they might be dangerous. So we must be grateful they are the sort of people who are counting on Bernie's fairydust because if they actually worked for what they want, America would be far worse for it."

Honestly I was amazed at this. If we begin using our tax dollars to make this country a better place for us, with health care for all, free college, far less war, deprivatized prisons, successful taxation of corporations who've offshored profits, etc., then WHY is that so bad? Why will 'America be far worse for it?' Why is it 'fairydust?'

Makes me support Bernie more, because he's right. He's been right all along, and it is these third way people who have been wrong. Wrong for the nation, wrong for the middle class, wrong for the poor.

Now, if you'll all excuse me, I have to go and wade through some more 'fairydust.'

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
38. Well the thing is...
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 01:51 AM
Sep 2015

In your example, the poster is arguing for a candidate and you are arguing for issues. The entire Hillary campaign has put the cart before the horse.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
42. And seriously, they are calling Sanders a man with no policy ideas, just 'fairy dust'?
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 01:57 AM
Sep 2015

WTF are they smoking over there?

They are so deluded. They are just making shit up because for some reason they are really, really mad and bitter. Me thinks it's because it looks like Sanders is the more popular candidate and how dare he challenge the anointed one, much less look like he's going to be the Dem nominee.

PatrickforO

(14,573 posts)
44. Your post reminds me of a funny story...
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 02:00 AM
Sep 2015

I'm usually pretty confident. So one time, my wife asks me something, and I answered her right away - sounded great, you know, really plausible.

So she turns to me and asks, "Do you really know, or are you just making shit up?"

The Hillary supporters seem to be making shit up because they can't compete with our guy on the issues.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
188. they come here, stir shit, then go there and mock people by name
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 02:49 PM
Sep 2015

from now on, don't engage them

just post the website and nothing else. they won't get what they want from us and other readers will go and see what and who they are. sad little mean girls.

PatrickforO

(14,573 posts)
43. Yeah. Their problem is that Bernie beats Clinton hands down on issues.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 01:57 AM
Sep 2015

Clinton's too busy with her focus groups seeing which way the wind blows so she can 'evolve.'

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
198. Shame is not their lot in life
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 03:58 PM
Sep 2015

I see a lot of names over there from people who harangued the LGBT community on DU for years. When the President finally came around and supported it and the Supreme Court made it the law of the land, they celebrated and behaved as if they were positively militant for it all along.

They never acknowledge the suffering they inflict on others. Nor will they. In terms of power, delusion when it comes to perception of self is one of the strongest forms. They honestly do not perceive their own behavior at all. For the past several months, I've watched bullies earnestly perceive themselves to be martyrs. It's really quite something.

At least I know when I'm being an asshole ;/

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
103. They like much of the status quo.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 07:13 AM
Sep 2015

They don't WANT it disrupted. They want it to continue, with just a few 'tweaks' that address their own pet issues. They'll be thrilled to win the WH with a candidate who basically won't change things. Who will do some cosmetically good things for women and children, but continue economic polices that impact them negatively far more than anything she does to help them.

Get out there and talk to people, get them to register to vote if they aren't, get them to ask themselves how the policies of each candidate will impact themselves and their children.

You don't need to tell people who to vote for, just get them to honestly consider whose policy ideas will benefit them the most.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
139. So we’re “lazy and clueless”?
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 10:59 AM
Sep 2015

Nasty shit, that. I can’t believe some of the names are of people I really liked and admired. smh...nice to know what they think of us.


Jackilope

(819 posts)
265. I noticed that too. WTH? In 2008 there was division between Obama and HRC supporters....
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 09:51 PM
Sep 2015

.... but that chat thread is just downright ugly.

The folks I am meeting at the Bernie events are people getting involved and invested in a candidate for the first time. The real face to face interactions I have out and about -- there is a genuine respect for him.

Not going to let the catty name calling on another site bother me. Go ahead and call me a Bernista. I'll own and wear the label proudly as I roll up my sleeves and wear my comfortable walking shoes working for a candidate outside of the sleezy Third Way corporate stranglehold. He's been right about so many huge issues and taken principled stands on issues while others wet their fingertips to see which direction the wind blows.

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
55. Such piles of drivel betrays a shocking level of desperation in Camp Weathervane.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 02:51 AM
Sep 2015

Hard to say though if the are the same people as on DU even though the handles are the same.

That said, it'll be interesting to see if DUers denounce people using their handles. If none do then I think its safe to assume that those posting over are indeed DUers.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
67. Well one of them, at least,
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 03:22 AM
Sep 2015

has also appeared on DU defending her long-winded diatribe on that other site about Bernie "cultists".

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
162. If we could just harness that long-windedness; put her in front of a windmill?
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 12:34 PM
Sep 2015

At least she displays the same hatred and hostility there as she does on DU. Several others who attempt a semi-civilized facade on DU, reveal their true nature, i.e, dysfunctional, hate-filled loathing, on that site.

Puts me in mind of rattlesnakes with their heads cut off - they mindlessly keep snapping, and do still have some venom left in their fangs.

I also noted some vicious comments about Skinner on that site.

One visit was more than enough. I'm off to take a decontamination shower.

It's a beautiful fall day, and I am so thankful we have a wonderful candidate to support. I'm going to plant some mums. Y'all take care.

 

Old Codger

(4,205 posts)
152. We do know
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 11:59 AM
Sep 2015

That the original op there was indeed written by who the name says it is since she was kind enough to prove it by the shout out post...Based on that I make my own assumption that the rest probably are also... Knock others down in an attempt to prove to themselves their egotistical sense of superiority .

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
56. I like the tread telling visitors from DU that DU doesn't OWN them....
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 03:02 AM
Sep 2015

No shit, really? You mean it's okay to post on other message boards? I'm allowed to go on a board about fly fishing or cars or cooking or camping? How about one where they talk about mixing concrete? That's okay too?

........sheeze.......

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
293. I'm guessing
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 12:11 AM
Sep 2015

that visiting a board about soldering and asking about soldering wire comparisons is probably suspect.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
294. You'd better not ask
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 12:15 AM
Sep 2015

about impact wrenches, because if you accidentally make a typo and leave out the r, there will be hell to pay.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
74. A little ironic they're using the word cult
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:03 AM
Sep 2015

Obviously some Hillary supporters are pretty unhinged, but attacking Hillary's supporters doesn't seem to be a meme. It seems that only Bernie supporters are fair game to attack.

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
77. Suggested reading, better to know than not IMO
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:14 AM
Sep 2015

Wow, just wow. Anyone who thinks we all just want the same things but support different means of getting there needs to check it out.

From what I can tell, they truly hate the progressive left, not just Bernie or his supporters. It's third way all the way, with healthy portions of identity politics thrown in for leftish flavoring. Systemic reform so things work better for everyone? Off the table as always.

I was quite surprised how personally viscious their posts were about some excellent Bernie supporters. In their own echo chamber, their true nature reveals itself, very very ugly.

The fact that they use their DU handles tells me they speak with the consent of DU's admins, or at least they have no worries about them. If I were DU, I wouldn't want their DU handles associated with those kind of personal attacks, it reflects poorly on DU. It also reflects poorly on Hillary, I imagine at least some of them are associated with her campaign and its money.

What greatly saddens me, though, is that Bernie's campaign is truly focused on the right issues, and is doing it the right way, without all of the corporate money. It's the ideal that I always assumed our party stood for, though it obviously falls well short of that with its candidates and results. I can see arguing that it is hard to win that way, without the large funding and without representing the interests of the powerful, but I can't see arguing that it is wrong-hearted or wrong on the issues, as many of those posters seem to think. The world they want and the world I want seem to have little in common.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
87. +1 Though, I would find it hard to believe the DU admin has given their consent.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:33 AM
Sep 2015

The rest of your post is spot on.

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
88. Sure, and I'm not saying they did,
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:35 AM
Sep 2015

though I am saying that those posters felt fine with using their DU handles to post that hate, and that says something, not sure exactly what.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
247. Either they don't care, or they're aware that the admins don't ban DUers for things they
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 08:04 PM
Sep 2015

say on other sites. That's nothing new.

PatrickforO

(14,573 posts)
164. Wow. I'm glad she's not my wife...
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 12:41 PM
Sep 2015

On a serious note, there were many Clinton supporters who felt like this lady did after Obama won the primary in 2008. Didn't they call them PUMAs?

I'm for Bernie, and I'm going to do everything possible to help him win the primary and the GE. That said, if he doesn't I'm not voting for any Republican. That just won't happen.

But Bernie needs to win. He's talking about so many things that will make so much difference in peoples' lives.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
96. Like rolling around Free Republic.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 06:45 AM
Sep 2015

Hate, hate, hate. Bile, vitriol, anger, namecalling.

A few kernels of overly exaggerated to the point of absurdity truth blown way out of proportion, lots of patting themselves in the back for being so smart, and everyone over here so stupid. I'd actually planned to get rid of my ignore list after the primary, but now it looks like I'll want to keep much of it. If they're showing what they truly believe over there, they're not really people I'd want to interact with at all.

(ETA: A) They have one good thing on the site - a countdown clock to the first caucus. B) The view counts are pitiful. They obviously haven't even gotten all of the Hillary suppporters on DU to go there, and I strongly suspect most of the view counts are actually from Bernie supporters with morbid curiosity, going to see how certain DU users WANT to speak about Bernie and his supporters when they know they can be as vulgar and hateful as they want without fear of getting hidden or banned here.)

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
108. The takeaway for me is to not even bother trying to convince them to pursue progressive policies.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 07:16 AM
Sep 2015

They don't want them. They are ACTIVELY fighting to make sure they NEVER come to pass.

We have to take the Party back from them because right now their philosophy holds power in the Democratic Party (Leadership). They're right about that.

But, they are losing their shit over Bernie. Can you imagine how deranged they will be if we ever create a movement that actually succeeds in reforming the Democratic Party back to the FDR Dem days? From and the Clintons helped spearhead the reformation of the Democratic Party to become the New Democrats. They call themselves that. Their agenda has been openly stated many times. It's not a theory. Many of these posters pretend that either: 1) These New Dems are just as good as the FDR Dems (despite their openly stated mission statement, their actions, and their RESULTS); or 2) It's the best we can ever hope to get. I say Fuck That. I hope enough people are ready to start paying attention for long enough to take back the Party from the radical Wall Street Democrats.



Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
110. I have to think that people who push the 'it's the best we can do' line
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 07:23 AM
Sep 2015

are people who, as you say, WANT it to be the best we can do.

People who want change, who want something better, always fight (and they don't get into stupid semantic arguments over the word 'fight' and ask if you want a physical altercation.) for MORE than they think they can get, on the offchance they might somehow do better.

You will NEVER get more than you ask for, than you work for. If you simply proclaim you've gotten the best you can get, you never will get better, because it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. Fight for far more than you think you can get, be amazed and happy if you do get it, be happy when you get less, but more than you thought you could, and continue to push for more if all you get is what others said was 'all you could get'. Progress never comes through complacency.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
102. Read a bit of it. They have gone 'round the bend.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 07:06 AM
Sep 2015

Besides the vitriol, there is the anger that no matter how many times it is explained to Bernie's supporters that he cannot win, we still support Bernie. I have seen that expressed here about other candidates, but their fury at not being obeyed is remarkable. Remarkably unhinged. There is some real ugly there. And yeah, they hate Bernie's supporters, and they hate Bernie.

Funny thing, I read somewhere here at DU, the other day, that a real leader would be able to keep his supporters from twittering or whatever. So Bernie needed to tell his supporters to stop. At the same time, no matter what an HRC supporter or staff member or PAC does or says, we are told that Hillary had no control over it, we need to let it go.
What a beautiful example of cognitive dissonance. Or maybe just not that smart.

Oh well. At least they have their own little litter-box to play in. Needs scooping out big time. Ugh. The only other thing is - looking at the names, I am not surprised in the least. And the authoritarian streak in some is kind of entertaining, in a way. Looks like Hell has no fury like an authoritarian personality who is disobeyed. Like Freeperville with a better vocabulary and better grammar. But the same foaming anger and ugliness.

carolinayellowdog

(3,247 posts)
149. Authoritarianism feeds sadism and masochism, hence the hostility
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 11:54 AM
Sep 2015

Earlier this year I posted about a book on dogmatism that makes some points relevant to online aggression. Here is the passage most relevant to what you are describing:

Behavioral Characteristics (of dogmatists)
1. Preoccupation with Power and Status (as evidenced by behaviors)
2. Glorification of the In-group; Vilification of the Out-group
3. Dogmatic Authoritarian Aggression
4. Dogmatic Authoritarian Submission
5. Arrogant, Dismissive Communication Style


What motivates this behavior? A perennial favorite of mine is Erich Fromm's short article The Authoritarian Personality.

What I've noticed regarding uncritical adoration of political or religious leaders is that those with such a mindset can't really imagine anyone else existing outside that kind of bubble. If you don't submit enthusiastically to the will of the party, or of God's chosen spokesman, etc., then you MUST be submitting in a cultic, masochistic way to some OTHER authority. It's projection, all right, due to a particular kind of blinders.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
226. I believe it is authoritarian behavior. Our culture produces many compliant authoritarians.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 05:51 PM
Sep 2015

Here is an Authoritarians Mantra that I don't know where I got,

"I am a humble servant and recognize that I am not worthy of knowing true reality.
Therefore, I will trust my chosen leader to guide me.
I will never question the reality I am presented.
There are no conspiracies because that would mean my leader isn't in total control and that isn't possible."

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
109. And . . . the first one I clicked on
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 07:19 AM
Sep 2015

was a hack writer I've had on Ignore for years. (Does she still have the pouty picture as her sig line on DU?)

This is interesting. I can't imagine any one of us starting a site like that. I can't speak for anyone else but it's all I can do to keep up with DU, social media and all the local sites and activities Bernie activists are involved in.

Seriously, do they not campaign? I've been to a whole lot of activities here in the pink part of California and I've seen nothing for any candidate other than Bernie.

If Hillary supporters are so in love with her, why aren't they out campaigning for her?

votesparks

(1,288 posts)
112. They don't campaign for her
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 07:58 AM
Sep 2015

Because from what I've seen, most of her supporters are literally too old to do the door-to-door pounding of the pavement that is necessary.

We have a great Bernie canvassing crew here that is growing. We have already canvassed several entire neighborhoods in our city, and canvassed almost every local festival in the past two months.

Most of our canvassers are younger folks.

We haven't seen one HRC campaigner the whole time.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
118. I'm not so sure that it's an "old" thing
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 09:04 AM
Sep 2015

as it is that they just expect her to automatically have the nomination. Besides, I'm 60 and me and my partners in crime (none of us are spring chickens) are out here 2-3 times a week doing something, even if it's just planning what we're going to do next.

We haven't gotten to canvassing yet as I'm in California and too many people still don't know who he is. At this point we're just increasing visibility and amassing a list of volunteers because the more volunteers you have, the more events you can put on. At this point, it's just all about the multiplication.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
177. the particular poster you are talking about isn't in the US
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 01:25 PM
Sep 2015

Not even a citizen, I believe. So I highly doubt she's knocking on doors in her hood to get votes for Hillary. Though, ya never know. Maybe she is.

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
132. HRC or any one of her wealthy supporters have enough money to have an army of paid trolls
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 09:47 AM
Sep 2015

doing the same kind of posting that was exposed by that Russianwho was paid by Putin to discredit Ukraine, extol Putin etc.

The OTT smears of Bernie and his supporters suggests to me that not only are they on a payroll and pumping this stuff out to fulfill their duties but that they are vying with each other for either perks or special attention.

Whatever their motivation that place will simply be an echo chamber for diehards and have no effect whatsoever other than re-invigorating Bernie supporters.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
216. Why campaign when she's inevitable?
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:59 PM
Sep 2015

No need to actually "hit the streets" when your candidate will win no matter what.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
114. A good link to have handy when the Hillarians call Sanders supporters "haters"
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 08:25 AM
Sep 2015

Last edited Fri Sep 25, 2015, 08:56 AM - Edit history (1)

Plenty of hate over there - directed at liberals.

ETA: the entire site seems to be devoted to complaining about DU and DUers. If you want to discuss issues, I suggest going somewhere besides that web site.

Puglover

(16,380 posts)
123. Of course it is.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 09:31 AM
Sep 2015

There have been dozens of the bitch about DU sites. They pop up, fester; and then die a quiet little death.

I am so glad Scootaloo found this cesspool and turned on the lights.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
167. They clearly feel that Hillary (and by extension, themselves) are entitled to victory.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 12:50 PM
Sep 2015

They take it very personally that some upstart should presume to challenge her, or them. They believe that they should be able to shout us down, and when they can't, they lose their shit. Losing their shit on DU results in alert stalking hides, so they made their own site on which to do so.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
330. Not just entitled to victory
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 03:11 AM
Sep 2015

But entitled to DU as well. They are already talking about what they will do with DU after Hillary wins the primary. They want to kick all of us Bernie supporters off DU because we aren't even really dems and we don't belong here.

The funny part about that is that the majority of DUer's are Sanders supporters, and the Hillary supporters have run away to start their own little forum, where they can avoid us, but they still want to come back and take this place back when Hillary wins...and kick all of us out.

My head is still full of wiggly jello after reading through all that.

My suggestion?

Let's stay out of this. It's OK to be aware of what they are doing, but let's not start to become like them in self-defense. We have nothing to feel defensive about. Do not start calling them names or belittling them. Let's rise above this and just let them vent over there and we will continue on rooting for Bernie over here and get this guy in office.

We have more important things to do.

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
116. Wow, more projection going on there than at your local megaplex
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 08:39 AM
Sep 2015

Apparently, Bernie is at the centre of a personality cult, and his supporters regard him as the Messiah. Which is why he must not be allowed to deny HRH her coronation. It's her turn!

ismnotwasm

(41,977 posts)
120. Yes. You'll see me, for instance.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 09:21 AM
Sep 2015

Why I just stared a thread on prominent Gay rights leaders mulling Biden, but committed to Clinton. Recently, Another one about Hillary sitting down with #BLM. Yet another with her defending Feminism. And on other one on her environmental plan.

As time goes on, if it makes you feel better, Sanders and Sanders supporters will become less and less a topic of concern--at this point there's a lot of venting-- as we commit to getting Hillary elected.

I really wouldn't worry about it. Don't worry about my opinion of DU's Sander Supporters--It should matter not at all to anyone in this group. I can assure you, I don't worry about yours and others who support Sanders. Just enough perhaps, to pass on a little friendly advice.

You and I have DU, and I go to several pro-Hillary sites, blogs, Facebook pages and such. There has to be a number for Senator Sanders. In fact I know there is because I have good friends in RL involved in his campaign. Reach out--you'll be glad you did.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
142. s/he can't respond
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 11:02 AM
Sep 2015

I truly find this, very typical, disrespect to be both a joke and very telling. The fact that they were so convinced that Sanders was a non issue to begin with and now, won't be an issue for much longer, just shows how wrong and threatened they feel.

We're part of a revolution. We're taking back our party and our country. We're part of the, to quote Manny Goldstein, "the GET-OFF-YOUR-ASS-AND-SO-SOMETHING club." The non-issue is them.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
148. Really?
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 11:50 AM
Sep 2015

Last edited Fri Sep 25, 2015, 01:31 PM - Edit history (1)

But I understand 'Grumble' is closed to even people who join, except by asking for permission. As it's the most popular forum by far, and I saw some of it before it was locked up tight and how vicious and nasty it was ....... will people feel better posting in the other forums knowing they're being stabbed in the back in the 'Grumble'?

Why would good people supporting a good man be glad to 'reach out' to there?

(Self-deleting images as I don't want this thread locked for something I posted.)

Reminds me of high school ......... only much, much meaner.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
154. You're welcome,
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 12:02 PM
Sep 2015

there's much, much more ..... I just thought these 'invitations' should come with a little reality. I hate to see good, well-meaning people made fools of.

smokey nj

(43,853 posts)
158. I don't think anyone here took the invitation seriously, but I think that ugliness needs to be
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 12:08 PM
Sep 2015

exposed. They're a real classy bunch of folks.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
264. Seems your hate is not contained to DU's Sanders supporters...
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 09:41 PM
Sep 2015

What a load of hate you have. Is this how you will treat and talk about those who "reach out"? Do you think this person is glad s/he did?



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TheFarS1de

(1,017 posts)
276. At least we can just put that person on ignore...
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 10:23 PM
Sep 2015

imagine having to deal with such a miserable person in reality

Damage is done and they no one else to blame but their own vile , hate filled perspective .

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
279. Wow. Just wow.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 10:29 PM
Sep 2015


I'll be getting back out on the streets now talking about Bernie. This 90's style Rush bombast just motivates me further to be polite and issue oriented when challenged out there - though in the real world I have yet to run across any real nastiness from real people.

#feelthebern

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
128. Lol
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 09:45 AM
Sep 2015

Someone has a sadz.



These old conservatives pretending to be democrats are running out of time. Literally.

 

fbc

(1,668 posts)
129. A message to Hillary fans who are distraught that people just don't like their favorite candidate
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 09:45 AM
Sep 2015

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Duppers

(28,120 posts)
140. Omg, my ignore list is also there.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 11:00 AM
Sep 2015

I've had some on ignore long ago, long before they left DU. Good riddance.

How sad that ridiculing Bernie supporting DUers is all they have to do with their time.



 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
143. Considering the hate and anti-semetism spewed there,
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 11:04 AM
Sep 2015

Their obsession with DU and DUers, and their seeming intent to troll DU and cause trouble; I'm surprised that MIRT doesn't just go ahead and tombstone the DUers posting there just to save themselves the future chore. Nip it in the bud, before the weeds take over the garden.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
170. The site might prove a useful resource when investigating potential collusion
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 12:59 PM
Sep 2015

in the propagation of anti-Bernie memes.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
175. I don't think they'll have any influence.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 01:20 PM
Sep 2015

They don't donate (see ActBlue results), they don't canvass or phone bank...voters aren't even going to pay attention to a handful of bitter PUMAs spewing bile on an obscure website. They were already colluding by DU mail to post the daily talking points.
I do think it should be examined by DU admins inre the issue of several of the Bile Board being on DU's MIRT team. Posting antisemetic statements and hatred towards DU and certain DUers while serving in an official capacity on DU is def a conflict of interest. Those doing so should be tombstoned.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
271. According to one of the screen shots...
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 10:12 PM
Sep 2015

...a member of MIRT appeared to be bragging about aler-stalking cali. I would agree, that's a malicious intruder. But Skinner says there's no alert-stalking going on....

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
272. Yeah, I saw that. That should get him kicked off MIRT, but it's DU, so it won't, I'm sure.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 10:15 PM
Sep 2015

Check out what another one on the list had to say about cali...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=623172

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
178. Someone noticed yesterday, can't recall who...
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 01:39 PM
Sep 2015

that some on that site are MIRTs here. Hmmmm. Might be worth a closer look.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
218. 1) MIRT can't do anything to long-term DUers (I forget the cutoff)
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 05:04 PM
Sep 2015

and 2) There's some members of MIRT posting there.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
312. They did when I served on MIRT. As with the rest of DU, though, they usually
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 09:32 AM
Sep 2015

only came in and posted when things got really out of bounds.

TBF

(32,058 posts)
147. And some of them are on MIRT here:
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 11:37 AM
Sep 2015

The MIR Team, August - November 2015

NEW THIS TERM

Aerows
aikoaiko
azurnoir
Behind the Aegis
beam me up scottie
ColesCountyDem
davidpdx
discntnt_irny_srcsm
Flying Squirrel
George II
herding cats
ismnotwasm
iwillalwayswonderwhy
Kingofalldems
KMOD
L0oniX
mcar
meow2u3
okasha
OKNancy
onehandle
Ptah
SidDithers
William769

RETURNING FOR A SECOND TERM

greatauntoftriplets
Agschmid
Sissyk
LeftishBrit
mrmpa
TeamPooka
Violet_Crumble
Matariki

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10134723

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
166. Yes!
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 12:49 PM
Sep 2015

To be on MIRT while disparaging DU and DUers on another site is a definate conflict of interest. Has this matter been taken up with Skinner and Earl?

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
172. Seems wrong to serve on MIRT while also compiling lists of people to alert-stalk.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 01:17 PM
Sep 2015

Makes you wonder whose side they are really on

TBF

(32,058 posts)
310. I have other political sites I read and post
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 08:18 AM
Sep 2015

on occasionally, and I'm sure others do too. But it's the level of hate I found on that other site troubling. It's not like they are just supporting another primary candidate - which is fine - the site is obviously full of people making pretty snide comments about folks here etc. So it just makes you wonder why they care to be on MIRT here if we are all so horrible.

Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #181)

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
204. I wonder if the admins, who are Clinton supporters themselves. stacked the MIR
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:34 PM
Sep 2015

with Clinton fanatics.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
252. I don't believe that for a minute. I've served on MIRT.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 08:30 PM
Sep 2015

The admins ask people who have only served one term if they want to sign up for a second one, and then they post a "MIRT term ending" thread in Announcements. There may be some DUers who have shown themselves unfit for service in the past (I don't know, one way or the other), but it's basically a first-come, first-served proposition. If you'd like to serve on MIRT (and I recommend the experience to pretty much anyone), volunteer early.

It is possible, though, that members of one "camp" or another make an effort to volunteer for MIRT or to host because they believe they'll be persecuted by the rest of DU if they don't.

TBF

(32,058 posts)
311. I don't think EarlG would do that -
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 08:21 AM
Sep 2015

I have a very high opinion of him after serving on MIRT. I'm just surprised they would want to be on MIRT if this is such a horrible site full of horrible Bernie-loving folks.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
213. It's like republicans infiltrating local government. It's the Scott Walker model. Hate
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:56 PM
Sep 2015

government with all your heart, get elected, destroy government institutions, make others hate government,

Bravo.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
270. Wow! At least five of them are on there that I can see.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 10:10 PM
Sep 2015

And Ism is posting some really vile shit over there.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
173. You have a stronger constitution than I have. I lasted 20 minutes and had seen enough.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 01:18 PM
Sep 2015

Eye-opening for sure

marym625

(17,997 posts)
174. no fewer than three alerts on this post from Hillary Clinton supporters
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 01:20 PM
Sep 2015

Maybe four.

As Autumn stated, as long as we're talking about another site and not calling out DUers individually, this is not meta.

Again, continue. Vent away

#FeelTheBern
#Bernie2016

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
180. I have not posted or replied to even one thread about the primary
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 01:52 PM
Sep 2015

Last edited Fri Sep 25, 2015, 03:53 PM - Edit history (1)

I did a lot of posting about Hillary last time (I didn't care for her tactics or her personality)... I originally supported Joe Biden, then Obama... and I got into many flame wars (waste of time).

This go round I was going to leave the primaries alone... but I am deeply saddened by what the posters at HRC's pub site think of "us" here at DU (Bernie supporters or no).

I will support the nominee, whoever it is.

But I don't like what is being said in that forum about Bernie supporters here on DU.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
187. Some of the members at the other site...
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 02:49 PM
Sep 2015

Complaining about DU and DUers are part of MIRT. This is a blatant conflict of interest, and I'm surprised they haven't been kicked off MIRT by DU admins.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
190. That's most likely why the most-used forum is members-only now
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 02:54 PM
Sep 2015

Someone in Cali's thread had some screen shots from before they went into hiding, though I don't know the extent of what was captured.

Response to Hell Hath No Fury (Original post)

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
185. I used to think that ultimately we were all on the same side.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 02:30 PM
Sep 2015

Reading that site has shown me otherwise.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
191. Yep.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 02:56 PM
Sep 2015

Thats exactly how it feels. And they call US the haters. *smh* I feel stupid for having respected some of those people, knowing now what they thought of me / us. I wont make that mistake again.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
193. The neoliberal Third Way DLC New Dems
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 03:25 PM
Sep 2015

were never on the side of progressives. They have lurched the Democratic Party right ward since Al started the damned group. Mad has been writing some great OP's on their founding and what they have and are still doing to the party.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
200. I have those OPs bookmarked so I can dive into them this weekend.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:21 PM
Sep 2015

I started reading them as they were posted but its just so depressing.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
202. They are damned fine OP's
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:32 PM
Sep 2015

and terrifying in their assessment of the reality of what has happened since the 80's Reagan neoliberal revolution began.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
206. Which wholly spans my entire voting life.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:37 PM
Sep 2015

Turned 18 in '91. My first vote was for Clinton. Little did I know.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
207. I turned 18 about a decade before you.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:43 PM
Sep 2015

I saw the rise of the New Dems. I vote for Perot in 1992. He was right about NAFTA.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
209. Heh. Me? I saw Bill on MTV.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:46 PM
Sep 2015

yeah. I was one of *those*. Took the "cool guy" bait. Hook, line & sinker.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
211. I had lots of friends that did.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:53 PM
Sep 2015

I grew up in a bi-racial Eisenhower Republican family that saw through Reagan instantly. They pushed us kids to be politically active and educated.

It wasn't hard then to see through Clinton once you looked beneath the 'cool'. I also got to see the Clinton's first hand in Arkansas. I was not surprised when the scandals appeared in the White House.

But the important thing is that you know now what is going on. We are all young and dumb once. I might have seen through Clinton but my first wife was an alcoholic!

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
217. I wish my parents had been more into politics when I was a kid.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 05:00 PM
Sep 2015

I knew stepdad was a Republican and Mom was a Democrat but thats about as far as it went. Now when I think about it I wonder how they didnt kill each other. Apparently they were only *slightly* political. I think my mother might have even voted for Reagan. Who in their right mind goes from Carter to Reagan?!

Oh... and my first husband was an alcoholic too. Many regrettable decisions were made in the early 90's.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
205. How can those people be so stupid? Don't they realize that if Hillary should get the nomination
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:37 PM
Sep 2015

they are going to need us? Those evil and vile comments about Bernie supporters are not going to help to bring us together for the general election.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
210. They know they can tell us that we have to vote for the nominee or risk allowing the
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:50 PM
Sep 2015

Republicans to win. That's what they do every election, only it is not working on me this time. I will make a stand this election. If Hillary wins the primary, I will write Bernie's name in in the general election.

ladyVet

(1,587 posts)
347. That's my plan.
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 08:41 AM
Nov 2015

I won't be welcome here at all then, but at least I will have stood up for the only right choice in the thirty two years since I registered to vote.

If I were forced to vote for the lesser of two evils, I'd cast my vote for Cthulhu.

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
239. They need us if she wins, but from the last time she ran (against Obama) I can
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 06:55 PM
Sep 2015

say that if Bernie wins the nomination, I doubt very many will even show up in the General election. I worked around 50+ women who were big supports of HRC and I asked most of them after the general election "were there long lines when you went to vote". I think one voted but the rest were "too busy".


Edit: Forgot the comment "I could not bring myself to vote for that N****r"

So I guess the comment will be made "I could not bring myself to vote for that jew" this time around. I am so glad I am not working any more.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
282. One of them posted that Bernie and his Supporters should be purged if he should lose the primary...
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 10:49 PM
Sep 2015

Now that's a Big Tent Party...gave me cold chills reading it.

Bernie has stood with the Democratic Party for decades...that board sees to stand for something darkly different.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
208. Centrist neolib Democrats have had it all their way for 25 years.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:45 PM
Sep 2015

Now they can feel it slipping away. Blasting the left with invective and juvenile name calling is one way they seem to be coping with the pain.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
219. Really quite sad. They've recreated that which many supposedly despise - the Cave Dumpster.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 05:16 PM
Sep 2015

I have no interest in joining or reading there. Just reading through this post is really depressing.

Actually, seems they've got even less guts than the Cave (which leaves the Dumpster open for all to see) if they decided to lock theirs down. Now that's what I call folks who are confident in their candidate.

Bettie

(16,104 posts)
220. Wow, that is disturbing.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 05:17 PM
Sep 2015

stopped at the thread that declares (with full agreement from most everyone) that anyone who supports Sanders is clearly a totalitarian and that they should leave the party.

So, in essence, if you don't support Clinton, just get out of the party.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
237. Skinner has more than once said there is "no evidence" this is happening
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 06:41 PM
Sep 2015

That might be about to change. This should be posted in the ATA forum!

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
268. well, in klight of wehat happened to bravenak
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 10:04 PM
Sep 2015

some myths need to be looked at as they are not myth. And yes, it is ironic to mention her name in light of this thread, except when you look at the fact that alert stalking of any sort, by any side, needs to get squashed in the egg.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
275. Are you saying bravenak was alert stalked?
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 10:22 PM
Sep 2015

Come on, she had a melt down. She started calling Sanders supporters white supremacists from the bit I saw. She got real ugly real fast. And she's now over on Haterville posting right wing smears about Sanders. No, she was playing the pretend you're a Bernie supporter game and finally blew her cover.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
285. er, please tell me you are not ignorant
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 11:09 PM
Sep 2015

of the fact someone claiming to be a Bernie supporter mailed her HOME ADDRESS and gave her threats. That is not acceptable, at all.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
287. That's not the same thing.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 11:15 PM
Sep 2015

She had a total meltdown. Did you not see that?

And personally, I don't believe everything I read on the internet. And I really have a hard time believing it after seeing her change her tune so quickly here and use Bernie supporters as her excuse and then post the ugly rw smears she is posting on Haterville now. She called Bernie supporters white supremacists. She had a melt down. She lost it and who knows if that letter is real or not?

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
273. I agree!
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 10:17 PM
Sep 2015

They should all be tombstoned. It's quite apparent they set up the site for the purpose of trolling DU.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
240. We all knew they were after cali and now we have proof.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 06:57 PM
Sep 2015

It won't bring her back any sooner but at least everyone will know who's responsible.

Hypocrites.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
241. and they’re locking down threads. When the light comes on the cockroaches all run.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 07:00 PM
Sep 2015

They’ve been found out now. Hopefully something good will come of it but I doubt it.

So fucking pathetic.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
254. George II?? And is Bill "William769"? Trying to "prod" cali into her 5th hide.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 08:37 PM
Sep 2015

H. Clinton supporters conspiring to hide progressive DU'ers. How sad.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
256. It's the hypocrisy.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 08:40 PM
Sep 2015

Months of ops about how evil and conspiring Bernie's supporters are, how we alert stalked and drove off other DUers.

And look at them.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
283. I think they hate Cali a lot because she is so intelligent and so
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 10:50 PM
Sep 2015

she often makes them look silly when they try to argue with her.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
332. That is why they hate Beam Me Up Scottie too
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 04:23 AM
Sep 2015

The more vitriol they show, the more fear they are feeling.

Oh, they are feeling the Bern, and they aren't happy about it.

TheFarS1de

(1,017 posts)
284. The site admin really need to remove these subversive shills
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 10:55 PM
Sep 2015

I mean what does it take to get someone kicked off this site . A screenshot showing what they are intentionally doing and the poster still has the audacity to show up here and preach morality and higher ground .

Truly they are small , small people .

 

MoveIt

(399 posts)
288. watch william openly defy people to report him to the admins on cali's thread...
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 11:16 PM
Sep 2015

brazen bullshit like that doesn't happen by accident, he clearly feels he is immune from any repercussions for his actions.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
331. Who would have guessed
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 03:50 AM
Sep 2015

I've been prodded several times by the prodder (without success)...but I knew that was his game. Now he's announced it openly.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
225. No, thanks. Any DUer over there you want to draw attention to is someone who's already
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 05:44 PM
Sep 2015

on my ignore list, unless I'm keeping them around for the lulz. No much point in going somewhere else to see the posts of someone I've already decided isn't worth my time. It's no news that some of HRC's supporters will do just about anything to see her in office. It's only going to get worse as her numbers continue to drop.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
229. And I just took half of those off ignore here
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 05:55 PM
Sep 2015

OMG. That was enlightening. And shocking. Maybe not shocking. I'm just stunned. I never leave here except for Facebook.

What an eye opener.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
232. Well
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 06:05 PM
Sep 2015

Edited: I deleted some quotes, though I used no names, as I get the sense that's the best way to go.

Speaks for itself imo, and let that be the end of it. People can draw their own conclusions.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
235. And a member of MIRT
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 06:17 PM
Sep 2015

directly stating he is working to get people put on time out.

It's cesspool. Anti-Semitic posts, general hatefulness against DUers, trying to find ways to piss Sanders supporters of so they get 5 hides.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
236. the funny thing.....I have seen multiple accusations that Bernie people try to manufacture hides
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 06:27 PM
Sep 2015

and it seems there that they almost have planning sessions to do that.



Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
253. Actually, if there are more of us than there are of them...
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 08:31 PM
Sep 2015

then wouldn't that suggest we are the party, and they should be the ones leaving?

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
244. Thanks, better you than me.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 07:54 PM
Sep 2015

I did go for a quick look inside their Carnival Tent Show, featuring contortionists, gypsy fortune tellers,
and hucksters selling Snake Oil,
but my stomach couldn't take it.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
291. At least the inhabitants of that island of rotting organic matter
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 11:40 PM
Sep 2015

are equal-opportunity haterz; even Hillary Clinton Supporters who don't show enough zeal go under their great big bus.

(What an incredible spectacle!)

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
325. The woman in that thread hounded me
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 08:47 PM
Sep 2015

She taught me how not to get caught in the net, because she got me caught. One jurist loved her and couldn't believe she prodded...She was on me like white on rice...about 5 rounds. I learned to not get in the last word. It has been difficult at times, but I have watched some artful ambushes. And back in June, there were swarms. Happy that it is now one sting or two at a time now.



Catherina

(35,568 posts)
260. My eyes! I've had almost all of those people on ignore for years
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 09:18 PM
Sep 2015

And that OP lol. I'd forgotten all about that inconsequential person. Thanks for the short laugh but I really can't click through that. It's too vile and my they've been on my ignore list here for years. I'm just glad they dropped their masks enough for everyone to see.

All people like that do is make me work harder to make sure the next President isn't someone who attracts that kind of craziness.

Bernie 2016. Period.

By the brilliant Matt Wuerker at Politico


Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
289. Agreed. What a swamp.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 11:16 PM
Sep 2015

I dislike Hillary's positions and feel she would not be as good a President as Bernie. Because she has gone down the Third Way Highway.

As a person I have nothing against her.

So as I canvas every weekend for Bernie I always keep that in mind - we are fighting for the political soul of our Country - we are not fighting against the other candidates themselves.

I'll leave the swamp to others to wade in.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
263. WOW - delusional
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 09:39 PM
Sep 2015

How do they expect to win the nomination with that warped mind set?
'course the comment " ... my resolve worn down by a few tokes, a few glasses of sake" explains a lot.

 

MoveIt

(399 posts)
286. I have impeccable taste lol
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 11:09 PM
Sep 2015

All those !@#$!ers were already on my extensive ignore list. I should donate for the strain on DU's SQL cluster!

R. P. McMurphy

(834 posts)
297. Sickened. Betrayed. Feel sorry for them.
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 12:44 AM
Sep 2015

I visited the site earlier. Didn't know it existed until this evening. So much is going through my mind. There are people there for whom I had a great deal of respect. I may have disagreed with them but wanted to see their point of view. Now I will never be able to take many of them seriously ever again. To be fair, there were a couple of posters who were trying to call for sanity but the majority were in full hate and ridicule mode.

I still don't (and won't) put people on ignore. There are a few, though, who I will fell free to tell that, because they have chosen to unmask themselves as haters, their words no longer carry any weight with me.

I've seen some Bernie supporters post some things that seemed over the top (mostly VERY forceful tired of corporatist, third-way, opportunistic DLC and I'll never vote for Hillary) and it troubled me because I WOULD HAVE VOTED for whomever the Democratic nominee was (except Webb). I can't say that now. At least Sanders supporters had POLICY reasons not to like Clinton. I didn't see that on the other site. No repudiation of Bernie's policies -- just attacks and ridicule of his supporters.

I truly feel sorry for them. They can't make a meaningful argument for Clinton's policies or against Sanders'. They sure aren't winning hearts and minds. They've resorted to calling SOMEONE LIKE ME a part of the crazy left and not a real Democrat. It must be a lonely and scary place they're in.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
299. Me too.
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 01:19 AM
Sep 2015

Thanks for sharing your feelings.

I too feel sorry for them - I mostly lurk - but I feel sad and disgusted that DU has been the home to this unseen hate for all these years I've been here.

 

YabaDabaNoDinoNo

(460 posts)
307. Its the DINO version of FreeRepublic!
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 06:02 AM
Sep 2015

No different, same attitude, same types of posts.

But not surprising because just like the republicans all they got to run is is Hate, Fear and Lies.

What is very interesting and telling too is how much of the content is now not allowed to be seen by non members.

What do they have to hide?

NealK

(1,867 posts)
322. Jesus H. Christ on a Pogo stick!
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 03:39 PM
Sep 2015

I've been reading that garbage for an hour here and there (taking a very hot shower after each times) and had to pop a ton of Dramamine to avoid doing a remake of that scene in The Exorcist. The level of hatred towards other DUers and Bernie is astounding, is there something in the water they drink or what?

Omaha Steve

(99,624 posts)
333. Their candidate must be so proud of them
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 02:51 AM
Sep 2015

Yet a popular DUer got kicked off the DU for less than what is going on over there.
 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
351. That's just a site for pathetic trolls.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 11:08 PM
Jan 2016

They troll DU and jerk each other off about it there. Sad bunch.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
357. I guess Donald Trump isn't the only one ducking out on debate in an open forum.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 01:01 PM
Jan 2016

They make whatever crazy assertions they dream up with no danger of ever being called out on them.

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