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(5,066 posts)
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 12:07 PM Sep 2015

with today's NBC/WSJ poll remember this

Bernie is doing better with little MSM coverage and no debates yet than Obama was at this point In 2007

Obama was 20 points behind in national polls.Bernie without Biden Is down by 17 if Biden gets in down by 7.

Bernie Is leading Hilary In NH and in some polls also leads In Iowa.At this point In 2007
Obama was behind In both.

For those worried about minority support what some forget It took winning In iowa to turn
blacks against Clinton.

I remember when after Hilary won NH In 2008 the Clinton Campgain said they were ahead everywhere else except Illinois.Bernie Is already ahead In Vermont,Oregon,Minnesota,and Utuh

Assuming Biden doesn't get In.Hilary had 75% of dems In june.it dropped to 59% In July and now is down to 53%.Bernie meanwhile has gone from 15% In june to 25% In july to now 38% without biden now.

Even though some clinton supports have hinted we are racist,despite some supporting Obama for nomination In 2007/2008,and sexiest,despite some of us prepared to support Elizabeth Warren if she would have won,things are moving quicker than I would have ever thought possible In our direction.

I feel we can hold our heads high.our guy fight for civil rights In 1960's and supported first serious Black candiate for president.While the other side used racial dog whistles In 2008
and dismissed South Carolina.and now thinks SC should matter more than Iowa and NH.
Some of us actully remember things.

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(45,251 posts)
8. Oh, really? Well, there's a first time for everything.
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 12:31 PM
Sep 2015

Take THAT, hot stuff! (kidding! I am not treating anyone like an object.)


(5,066 posts)
5. I am
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 12:24 PM
Sep 2015

first off focus on bernie winning.Getting his message out on social media is critical.

The debates will be important.For some this will be first chance to see Bernie since first one is on CNN.

As for GOP unlike some I think Trump could win nomination.I have hard time believing racists In GOP will actully vote for Carson or Rubio for president.Senator or govenror is one thing president something else.

The Clinton Email scandal Isn't going away.while many who support bernie aren't motivated
by that it shows the arrgorance and victim mentality of the Clintons.GOP and MSM won't
just stop.


(5,066 posts)
9. True
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 12:38 PM
Sep 2015

she might not have done anything wrong,however the more times goes on that is called into question,but it shows the clinton's argorence.and their response to this hasn't helped matters any.

I am sick of the victim mentalitly it's always MSM and GOP's fault.they never did anything wrong.

When public hears storys of FBI recovering emails from her server it doesn't help matters.

Bernie will never mention emails so his surging is not because of that.


(45,251 posts)
10. Someone definitely went to jail for contempt
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 12:49 PM
Sep 2015

for refusing to answer questions about Bubba.

Someone definitely got caught trying to steal one of a kind documents.

Someone definitely got a lawsuit settlement of more than she originally sued for once the law on sexual harassment in the workplace changed.

Someone claimed indignantly on national TV that a vast right wing conspiracy was lying about her husband's involvement with Monica Lewinsky, and, under penalties of perjury, he lied about it, too.

To me those things say something; to others, those things say only that the Clintons are trustworthy and honest, but simply perennial victims.

Different stroke for different folks, I guess.


(2,261 posts)
11. The issue of HRC selling arms to countries that "coincidently" gave to the Clintom
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 08:29 PM
Sep 2015

Foundation is by far the most serious issue for HRC.

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