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*****DEBATE THREAD FOR BERNIE SANDERS GROUP-part 2***** (Original Post) angrychair Oct 2015 OP
Good. My ph was struggling to refresh. HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #1
Dang angrychair Oct 2015 #2
You too? JackInGreen Oct 2015 #4
Me neither angrychair Oct 2015 #10
Bernie handled it really well, Webb blew it totally, others did in between. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #5
Thanks Erich! angrychair Oct 2015 #13
I caught Webb JackInGreen Oct 2015 #18
Maybe someone will fill us in? HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #3
hillary defending her banking plan restorefreedom Oct 2015 #6
Dorkzilla started a 2nd thread too nt LiberalElite Oct 2015 #7
Bernie Is Trying Real Hard Not To Attack Hillary.... global1 Oct 2015 #8
BLM response was the best of all of them. F4lconF16 Oct 2015 #9
I need to find that later JackInGreen Oct 2015 #11
Mildly annoying, happened earlier for us. Nt F4lconF16 Oct 2015 #14
Bare knuckles Bernie! Gregorian Oct 2015 #12
Hill stumbled imo on keystone JackInGreen Oct 2015 #15
OMFG. HRC defending flipflopping! Lol! kath Oct 2015 #16
i never took a position on keystone restorefreedom Oct 2015 #17
It depends on what the meaning of is is. HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #22
exactly! nt restorefreedom Oct 2015 #25
trump feeling the love for bernie? restorefreedom Oct 2015 #19
They've been in line JackInGreen Oct 2015 #24
do i smell toast burning? restorefreedom Oct 2015 #27
I think that was just Chafee's campaign going down in flames. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #30
lol poor linc. nt restorefreedom Oct 2015 #32
WOW LINC JackInGreen Oct 2015 #20
That was bad. Nt F4lconF16 Oct 2015 #21
That was very very bad eom LiberalElite Oct 2015 #28
Ouch, Chafee is just dodging on his vote on repealing Glass Steagal. Bad move, dude. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #23
Everything but JackInGreen Oct 2015 #26
Who Me? I just got there! LiberalElite Oct 2015 #29
Chaffee seems exhausted at the two hour mark. Low blood sugar or past bedtime? hedda_foil Oct 2015 #47
Ugh. F4lconF16 Oct 2015 #31
She doesn't tell you doing what... glinda Oct 2015 #33
It's almost impossible to work your way through school as a young person these days. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #35
$10,000 a year for instate tuition where I live. F4lconF16 Oct 2015 #36
Exactly. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #41
always the poor and low income have the fucking work and roguevalley Oct 2015 #73
Actually that's why I added 'luck'. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #74
Anyone know how many Bernie supporters are outside this place? LiberalElite Oct 2015 #34
Goodbye, Chafee. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #37
The reddit Sanders comments have improved somewhat nt LiberalElite Oct 2015 #38
Sanders was weak on Snowden. F4lconF16 Oct 2015 #39
Agree nt angrychair Oct 2015 #40
Lolololol F4lconF16 Oct 2015 #42
Awesome angrychair Oct 2015 #48
hill playing gender card restorefreedom Oct 2015 #43
Well it would be. F4lconF16 Oct 2015 #50
the right woman would be great restorefreedom Oct 2015 #52
FUCK YOU WEBB YOU ARE GOING NOWHERE nt LiberalElite Oct 2015 #44
OMFG HRC would not be 3rd term of Obam cuz she is a woman. Jeebus. kath Oct 2015 #45
All Hillary Cares About Is Becoming The First Woman President.... nt global1 Oct 2015 #46
Reminds me of the last mayoral race in NYC LiberalElite Oct 2015 #49
'I'm not just running because I'd be the first woman President'... Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #51
She has given so many really fucking lame answers playing the gender card that it's incredible. kath Oct 2015 #54
Yeah, totally agree with you about this. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #75
hill trying to sell the "i am the only one who can win" meme restorefreedom Oct 2015 #53
... 840high Oct 2015 #56
+1 BeanMusical Oct 2015 #77
She was hunting Chinese? angrychair Oct 2015 #55
I know! glinda Oct 2015 #58
Thread winner!!! MissDeeds Oct 2015 #60
It was a free range hotel. Gregorian Oct 2015 #67
Nice angrychair Oct 2015 #72
Lol! BeanMusical Oct 2015 #76
HRC, quit talking when your time is up. Shut up already kath Oct 2015 #57
She is given more time than all of them. glinda Oct 2015 #61
The rules don't apply to HRH MissDeeds Oct 2015 #63
Props to Clinton on her last response. F4lconF16 Oct 2015 #59
Agreed leftcoastmountains Oct 2015 #62
They give her more and don't rush her. glinda Oct 2015 #68
can we not have just ONE "#2" thread?? kath Oct 2015 #64
I'm clicking between them nt LiberalElite Oct 2015 #69
Stand up for weed, Sanders! F4lconF16 Oct 2015 #65
I think she could use a joint... glinda Oct 2015 #66
Nice finishing remarks from o'malley and sanders. F4lconF16 Oct 2015 #70
And now, like that line from All in the Family Archie says LiberalElite Oct 2015 #71

angrychair

(12,284 posts)
2. Dang
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 09:57 PM
Oct 2015

Missed the whole BLM response due to an Amber Alert...hope the girl will be ok....hate that I missed that.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
5. Bernie handled it really well, Webb blew it totally, others did in between.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 10:00 PM
Oct 2015

Webb is getting shafted here. I don't think he'd do well anyway, but he keeps getting left out of things, and then he looks petty because he keeps talking about getting no time. Which is true, but to keep mentioning it makes him look like he's whining.

global1

(26,507 posts)
8. Bernie Is Trying Real Hard Not To Attack Hillary....
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 10:01 PM
Oct 2015

but she is taking every chance she gets to dis him.

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
9. BLM response was the best of all of them.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 10:01 PM
Oct 2015

Good on him. Would like to see him talk about race without mentioning economics. Talk about white racism. It needs to be said. Talk about colorblindness. Talk about attacks on intersectional individuals like black trans women. But still, good for him.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
17. i never took a position on keystone
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 10:05 PM
Oct 2015

until i took a position on keystone

classic clinton doublespeak

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
19. trump feeling the love for bernie?
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 10:08 PM
Oct 2015

Donald J. Trump
11m11 minutes ago
Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump
Good move by Bernie

JackInGreen

(2,975 posts)
24. They've been in line
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 10:09 PM
Oct 2015

On some points....strange bedfellows. Dogs and cats, living together, mass hysteria.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
23. Ouch, Chafee is just dodging on his vote on repealing Glass Steagal. Bad move, dude.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 10:09 PM
Oct 2015

No, 'just having arrived' doesn't make it right to vote for things if you don't know what's in them.

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
31. Ugh.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 10:12 PM
Oct 2015

I couldn't work 10 hours a week while going to school because I HAVE TO WORK TO FUCKING SURVIVE.

Fuck your "earn it or go away" bullshit, Clinton.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
35. It's almost impossible to work your way through school as a young person these days.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 10:19 PM
Oct 2015

Tuition and related college expenses are FAR greater today than when Hillary was college age.

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
36. $10,000 a year for instate tuition where I live.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 10:21 PM
Oct 2015

In a city with some of the higest costs of living.

It's flat out impossible for those of us who are struggling just to make rent.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
41. Exactly.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 10:26 PM
Oct 2015

You have to be one of the incredibly lucky few. Someone with a job that pays far more than minimum, someone who gets a full ride from a college for whatever reason. (I was one of those lucky few - my graduate degrees were fully paid for by the university AND I was given a stipend large enough to afford living expenses in exchange for part time work, because I was in programs the university was trying to keep going with few students.)

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
73. always the poor and low income have the fucking work and
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:10 PM
Oct 2015

those who have money get to glide. how about making it even for everyone for a change?

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
74. Actually that's why I added 'luck'.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:16 PM
Oct 2015

I don't 'come from money'. Both of my parents were working class, a teacher and a librarian, on a part of the country where salaries aren't particularly high. My 'glide' was more about going into programs where the University wanted students, rather than ones that were more popular with other students, than about 'having money'.

But yes, educational opportunities should be open to all, and not dependent upon ability to pay or luck of the draw.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
34. Anyone know how many Bernie supporters are outside this place?
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 10:15 PM
Oct 2015

I thought I read people were coming in from all over to protest the ticketed (for the chosen ones) seating.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
37. Goodbye, Chafee.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 10:22 PM
Oct 2015

You can't just keep giving excuses for your votes. You have to actually DEFEND why you voted the way you did, not just say 'everyone else did it too!'

Your campaign is toast.

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
39. Sanders was weak on Snowden.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 10:25 PM
Oct 2015

He needed to distinguish himself on that. Defend whistleblowing, please.

angrychair

(12,284 posts)
48. Awesome
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 10:32 PM
Oct 2015

Being a women doesn't make you more or less qualified. Being a person of character does.

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
50. Well it would be.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 10:34 PM
Oct 2015

About time for someone other than a straight man to be president. That perspective is invaluable, and whatever other privileges Clinton has, being a man is not among them.

Too bad she sucks at genuinely defending rights

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
49. Reminds me of the last mayoral race in NYC
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 10:34 PM
Oct 2015

when City Council President Christine Quinn ran for mayor and kept saying it was going to be "historic" to have the first woman lesbian mayor of NYC. I thought, yes it would be but there's more to consider than that.

kath

(10,565 posts)
54. She has given so many really fucking lame answers playing the gender card that it's incredible.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 10:38 PM
Oct 2015

She really makes me puke.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
53. hill trying to sell the "i am the only one who can win" meme
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 10:37 PM
Oct 2015

saying we can,t afford a repub to succeed obama

i could not agree more which is why i am voting for bernie

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
59. Props to Clinton on her last response.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 10:43 PM
Oct 2015

She nailed that.

Edit: and now Sanders just hit it as well, though he didn't have as much time.

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
65. Stand up for weed, Sanders!
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 10:46 PM
Oct 2015

Come on! Full decriminalization of ALL drug use. It's public health, not crime

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
71. And now, like that line from All in the Family Archie says
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:02 PM
Oct 2015

Shhh. now they're going to tell us what we just heard.

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