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Cleita

(75,480 posts)
Tue May 19, 2015, 06:26 PM May 2015

Stop calling Bernie's bill to fund college for all American kids

The Robin Hood bill. Taxing large banks and corporations on their investment transactions to fund education is not robbing the rich to give to the poor. It is rightfully getting big corporations to meet their responsibility to educate the future workforce that they will benefit from. It's past time for them to recognize their responsibility to do this.

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Stop calling Bernie's bill to fund college for all American kids (Original Post) Cleita May 2015 OP
The High Frequency Trader Tax perhaps /nt think May 2015 #1
In a just and proper society, it would never occur to anyone to use such language. randys1 May 2015 #2
Which republican idiot is saying that? Autumn May 2015 #3
Actually it was Ed Schultz to Bernie when he interviewed him on his Cleita May 2015 #4
I get what you're saying, but none of the corporate media, even Ed & Rachel, is on "our side." Ed Suspicious May 2015 #6
Well I was half right. If Ed Schultz said that he's an idiot. Autumn May 2015 #7
Schultz has been an idiot for sometime now... eom Purveyor May 2015 #28
I heard about this tax some years back cilla4progress May 2015 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author aspirant May 2015 #8
Wasn't Robin Hood the good guy of the story? And wasn't Robin just a response A Simple Game May 2015 #9
Gotta disagree. Every time you allow people to think they are paying Cleita May 2015 #11
Yeah you're probably right. You shouldn't be but you probably are. A Simple Game May 2015 #14
You are absolutely correct. Not long ago I heard that a US tractor company rhett o rick May 2015 #29
In turn, you could probably end the Pell Grant program if we did this bluestateguy May 2015 #10
You could end a lot of stuff like that. Just simply make college Cleita May 2015 #12
With the amount of unemployment we have.... daleanime May 2015 #17
Getting into The University of California wasn't a lark. Cleita May 2015 #18
Ironic. The conservatives have almost completely gotten rid of the concept of investing in ourselves jtuck004 May 2015 #13
It was natural for the Republicans to sneak into the camp of their enemies, Democrats, GoneFishin May 2015 #15
The conservatives see Education as a privatized profit center. Thor_MN May 2015 #23
Crooks 4 College Bill? Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #16
An immense pool of talented, educated employees.... paleotn May 2015 #19
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast May 2015 #20
The Educational Investment Act. nt Half-Century Man May 2015 #21
We have a winner. Cleita May 2015 #22
We've been calling it that for years. Financial Transaction Tax = Robinhood Tax Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #24
I think it's bad advertising myself. eom Cleita May 2015 #25
But I think the official name of this new thing is the "College For All Act" Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #26
OK Cleita May 2015 #27

randys1

(16,286 posts)
2. In a just and proper society, it would never occur to anyone to use such language.
Tue May 19, 2015, 06:29 PM
May 2015

It would be common sense to expect those with the most to share the most.

That to whom much is given, much is expected, and yes, most of it was GIVEN to them by the rest of US.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
4. Actually it was Ed Schultz to Bernie when he interviewed him on his
Tue May 19, 2015, 06:36 PM
May 2015

show today to explain the bill. Bernie didn't correct him. I guess he didn't want to distract from the purpose of the interview. Also Ed seemed to be positively in favor of the idea, which is why I got so upset. Our side can't be giving the opposition any fuel for fire. It's a very bad label IMHO

cilla4progress

(24,725 posts)
5. I heard about this tax some years back
Tue May 19, 2015, 06:38 PM
May 2015

I believe it is quite common in other Western countries. We've become so backward here in the U.S.

Good idea.

Response to Cleita (Original post)

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
9. Wasn't Robin Hood the good guy of the story? And wasn't Robin just a response
Tue May 19, 2015, 07:39 PM
May 2015

to the inequity of the economic system of the day?

Maybe we should embrace the name, turn a weakness into a strength sort of thing.

Something like; Damn right this is a Robin Hood bill, do you remember what Robin personified? He personified the inequity of the economic system of that time period, how the poor were expected to pay more than the rich for nothing in return and he wanted to right that wrong just like Bernie does in the present day. When 99% of all new money goes to less than 1% of the population you're damn right Robin would have done something about it!

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
11. Gotta disagree. Every time you allow people to think they are paying
Tue May 19, 2015, 07:46 PM
May 2015

for something else for someone else, it gives them an excuse to shirk their responsibility and blame the other. They need to know this is an investment that it beneficial to them in the future.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
14. Yeah you're probably right. You shouldn't be but you probably are.
Tue May 19, 2015, 07:56 PM
May 2015

What 1/10 of 1% think and say shouldn't have that much sway in a normal society but then again we are the exceptional society, aren't we.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
29. You are absolutely correct. Not long ago I heard that a US tractor company
Wed May 20, 2015, 05:54 PM
May 2015

not sure which, was complaining that the kids coming out of our school system were not qualified to work for them and they were having a problem finding "good" people. Well, duh! How much did you pay into the school system to get the qualified people you need? And when our bridges and roads start to crumble it won't just kill us peons (the wealthy don't care) but it will disrupt commerce and hurt profits. The wealthy individuals and corporations must pay their fair share. Us peons are just about tapped out.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
12. You could end a lot of stuff like that. Just simply make college
Tue May 19, 2015, 07:48 PM
May 2015

tuition free like the UC did back when I was college age.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
17. With the amount of unemployment we have....
Tue May 19, 2015, 08:35 PM
May 2015

we should be stuffing classrooms as full as possible.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
18. Getting into The University of California wasn't a lark.
Tue May 19, 2015, 08:46 PM
May 2015

You had to fulfill college prep requirements in high school. I think you had to have a B average but I could be wrong and have a satisfactory score on your SATS. You then had to maintain a C average through graduation after meeting requirements.

What it did was insure that the best and brightest got an education not just the richest. You still had to pay for books, fees and your room and board. You could live at home if the campus was in your town. So everyone who could qualify could get an education even if your parents were the poorest of the poor.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
13. Ironic. The conservatives have almost completely gotten rid of the concept of investing in ourselves
Tue May 19, 2015, 07:54 PM
May 2015

because the alternative is death.

And brain-dead Democrats go right along with 'em.

How hard is it to see the costs of not doing this? Yet little is said, because all the people around the corporations are too busy kissing their ass to think of anything other than profits to stick in their pocket, including the parties that are supposed to be on the people's side.

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
15. It was natural for the Republicans to sneak into the camp of their enemies, Democrats,
Tue May 19, 2015, 08:16 PM
May 2015

and sabotage them. Real Democrats would have impeded their fascist goals.

A thriving FDR Democratic party would not have allowed all of this shit to go down without a fight. But the party has been infested with corporatists who put money over people, just like the Republicans.

We may be doomed

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
23. The conservatives see Education as a privatized profit center.
Tue May 19, 2015, 09:34 PM
May 2015

They are against State Schools because they compete with for-profit "colleges and universities", what used to be called Vocational Technical Institutes and Business Schools. Can't remember if it was Reagan or Bush I that gave them the right to call themselves Colleges and Universities but most of them are blood sucking vermin that pile debt on students and leave them with nothing or a worthless "degree".

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
19. An immense pool of talented, educated employees....
Tue May 19, 2015, 09:04 PM
May 2015

...is in their best interest....but that's words lost on those who's foresight can't reach beyond next quarter's earnings.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
24. We've been calling it that for years. Financial Transaction Tax = Robinhood Tax
Tue May 19, 2015, 09:39 PM
May 2015

Robin Hood is popular.


But I think the official name of this new thing is the "College For All Act"

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
26. But I think the official name of this new thing is the "College For All Act"
Tue May 19, 2015, 09:45 PM
May 2015

I edited my post to add that.

Maybe you can call it that

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