PPP Poll - Sanders 24%

[BrotherIvan]

Well here is a some good news. The last poll circulated on DU, Bernie was at 13% (please correct me if I'm wrong)

But in this recent poll from Public Policy Polling

Clinton 57%
Sanders 24%
O'Malley 4%
Webb 2%
Chafee 1%

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2015/05/clinton-up-big-in-washington.html

On the Democratic side Hillary Clinton continues to be dominant at 57% to 24% for Bernie Sanders, 4% for Martin O'Malley, 2% for Jim Webb, and 1% for Lincoln Chafee. This is another data point showing that Sanders has far separated himself from the rest of the Democratic field in the race for 2nd place- he has 58% name recognition with the O'Malley/Webb/Chafee trio only coming in the 26-31% range.

So, even though the article is titled, "Clinton up big in Washington" we can see that Bernie is gaining votes from non-Clinton candidates and Clinton herself. That lead is not inevitable and could continue to erode as it did in 2008. Get the word out and watch that number continue to grow.

[House of Roberts]

1. The media love a close race.

Maybe that will play into Bernie's favor.

[BrotherIvan]

2. Maybe, but the longer Clinton keeps running from the press, the better for Sanders

He's getting a lot of free airtime because of the vacuum she has created. They need to fill airtime, and Sanders is smart to take advantage of it as much as possible.

[Eleanors38]

103. You could hire sportscasters and never know the diff.

[pscot]

112. Yeah you would

The improvement would be huge.

[Eleanors38]

113. HA!

[sabrina 1]

116. It was, remember Keith?

[pscot]

118. Best sports caster in the world!

[Robbins]

3. DU and MSM

act like race is already over.she is ahead now so we should all shut up and accept her inevitialbty.

She could still go down.and hey this time we know we have a candiate who won't betrey us like Obama has.

[BrotherIvan]

4. No doubt, this race is far from over

And Sanders is gaining ground at 10% leaps. That is something. And polls are generally older, more conservative voters. So with the excitement among the youth vote, his numbers could be higher.

[smokey nj]

15. You are trolling a safe haven for supporters of Bernie Sanders. Your post is inappropriate in this

group.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

21. Not only that, but he's a conservative democrat - whatever that is.

[BrotherIvan]

22. He's a part of "reality"

But you're not invited. Capiche?

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

25. Kind of like the Tea partiers? They have their own reality too.

[BrotherIvan]

29. Yeah, aint it grand how "reality" and "neoliberal corporatist austerity"

coincide so often on DU? Who knew.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

38. DU certainly has become a mine field.

Some things are to be carefully avoided at all costs.

[frylock]

109. a republican

[Fantastic Anarchist]

32. I'm giving you too much attention by saying this ....

... but you can take your "reality" and shove it.

Around here, we make our own, and don't let others make it for us.

[BrotherIvan]

34. And reddit, and Facebook, and twitter, and...

[NYC_SKP]

42. Buh Bye.

[rhett o rick]

90. Thank you. nm

[NYC_SKP]

121. 14 recs, no replies!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026714278

[rhett o rick]

123. Hey I see one reply. Thanks for posting by the way. nm

[RiverNoord]

50. That's a fascinatingly ignorant perspective.

When most of the major factors are accounted for, none of the current or likely GOP candidates would stand a remote chance of defeating Bernie Sanders in a general election.

A couple of presidential debates and it would be all over. Simple as that.

This would not have been the case at any point during the last 20 years of American politics. It very much is now.

[Jackpine Radical]

31. That opinion is expressed here, but I think it's far from a majority view.

As far as we can tell from our little polling threads, DU runs roughly 90-10 Bernie.

You're entirely right about M$M, though.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

44. Not surprisingly DU is about 90-10 over 50 years old, too.

I'm 60, and to coin a phrase, "I've just about had it!".

[Jackpine Radical]

69. Yup. And I've got a decade on you.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

71. I'll catch up eventually. I'm from Madtown. Where are you?

[Jackpine Radical]

72. Chippewa Falls, Eau Claire.

I went to school & lived in Madison off & on from 1962-79 with time out for various things like Vietnam & teaching at UWM.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

75. Interesting! So do you live in CF or EC?

Born and raised (and still living) in Madison (actually across the border in McFarland now). I don't think I've ever done more than pass through either place. I need to schedule a weekend to check out Eau Claire.

[Jackpine Radical]

77. I live in Chippewa County, out in the country with a Chip Falls address

But I'm in EC more than in CF in the course of a normal week. EC is fairly blue, CF is purple.

[FlatBaroque]

5. Awesome poll results

[pa28]

6. With results like these we'll be moving out of the "first they ignore you" phase.

Soon we'll be hearing jokes about Bernie's hair and clothes and Bernie the crazy socialist.

Sometime shortly after that the panic will set in.

[BrotherIvan]

7. Next it will be the "tax and spend liberal" argument thrown by Democrats

Oh wait, it already is! Bernie is coming after your 401K!!!!!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6698061

[L0oniX]

10. If it weren't for that posters post count that would be a troll op.

The posters sign line is all about the poster.

[Maedhros]

11. I'm convinced some trolls have a way of spoofing post count and enroll date.

Name's we've never seen popping up with thousands of posts, just to drop some conservative bullshit.

[Dragonfli]

47. That one popped up once before, then disappeared, he dropped by to write a few OPs about how

Occupy was a bullshit movement by out of work bums that liked to defecate on the sidewalk or something. I don't remember the details, but he definitely wanted the occupiers to get off his lawn!

Come to think of it, like with the legislation he claims is so horrid it is a total deal breaker, Wall Street is the target of something that "concerns" him so much. Maybe it is a trend.

[Maedhros]

63. Well, we know from the StratFor leaks that paid disruptors use the tactic

of signing up for numerous user names and pumping up the posts counts for later use as propaganda platforms.

[Jackpine Radical]

73. But I never saw the name before.

The implicit arrogance would have probly stuck out in my mind.

How can you invisibly make 10,000 posts? In the lounge or the Gungeon or somewhere else that I don't frequent?

[Maedhros]

79. One could hack the server and change a few database fields,

not that I'm implying that's happened. But sophisticated hackers can do and have done much, much worse against servers hardened far more effectively.

Again - not implying that this has happened. I am engaging in sheer conjecture.

[Jackpine Radical]

84. Amazing that anyone would find it worth the bother.

The resulting "outlier" posts are just not likely to have much effect on a board like this, although they may be of some use on sites frequented by low-info people.

[BrotherIvan]

36. I saw it start with another old/new poster in a thread

She brought 401ks up and it took hold. I wouldn't be surprised if Joe the Plumber...oops "Revelator"...is a sock for her. Another one who hasn't posted for ages then shows up with a high post count. Funny how many "stealth" Bernie supporters there were and still are. What is the point of that?

[Vincardog]

8. Good I am waiting for them to look for ANYTHING to attack Bernie with. Superficial crap is all

The only thing the ditto heads have.

[smokey nj]

14. They were doing that and worse as soon as he announced. People actually smeared Bernie as a racist

and a sexist.

[BrotherIvan]

24. Yes, I was called a racist sexist

And even when I identified as a person of color, the poster insisted I only liked Bernie because he is for "white and men." Sigh...

[TM99]

76. I have received the same treatment.

I am bi-racial and got the whole POC's will ONLY vote for HRC and not the old white guy spiel as well.

[BrotherIvan]

78. You can't make this shit up

And probably told you don't care about civil rights or social justice because you think that people should also have food on the table and a roof over their heads. It might be the stupidest argument I've ever heard.

[TM99]

82. In the last few days

I have been called sexist, racist, been accused of 'straightsplaining' & homophobia, and bombarded with historical revisionism.

It would be funny if this election were so damned serious. If we get another corporatist Third Way Dem in the White House at best or a Republican at worse, we are truly and seriously fucked.

[BrotherIvan]

88. There was quite a subthread of posters discussing it yesterday

There is an assumption that all AA votes will automatically go for Hillary. Why? I don't know. I don't know what she has promised to do for civil rights specifically. I know she is making promises on immigration and has talked about incarceration, but I don't know what proposals will make anyone's lives better. I don't see that civil rights improved under Obama either. In fact, he has been the opposite of good by calling African Americans thugs and saying we need to respect the cops. So, I'm not sure what another corporatist will do. I'm surprised anyone is thinking she will actually follow through on her populism. It's all campaign rhetoric.

But yes, when you try to state facts or information to certain posters, they feel cornered and will lash out. I've seen what has been said to you in threads and that's very wrong. The poster who tried to paint you as a bigot is doing her damnedest to take over every discussion. Unfortunately, it won't get better and I already know I'm not going to stick around DU if Sanders drops out of the race early. The crowing will be too loud. What they will have won though is anyone's guess.

[TM99]

120. It is an assumption

and likely a wrong headed one as well. I read this article today that was addressing conservatives of the GOP but really it equally applies to the Third Way/DLC DINO's.

http://act.alternet.org/go/61116?t=1&akid=13127.319429.Klaw85

That particular poster seems to have appeared out of nowhere which I find quite odd. Sometimes I get pissed or even a little hurt, especially as they don't know a damned thing about me, but mostly I just don't let their bullshit phase me any more.

If Sanders drops out or loses to Clinton, I have been open & honest up front that I will leave DU until after the 2016 election cycle ends. I will not vote for Clinton ever. I suspect if she does win and I come back post election it will be to tell everyone, told you so, as we prepare for a complete Republican control of all three branches of government.

[carolinayellowdog]

81. The HRC campaign's dog-whistle appeal to white racists in 2008 still rankles

I voted for Obama in the primary that year, but had always liked the Clintons until getting a taste of their manipulation of racist sentiments in certain states. As an old southern white male, I could hear the damn dog whistle and no one can tell me it was imaginary. OTOH as a person with black family members and some remote mixed ancestry, I was very offended by it. The point of dog whistle tactics is to be inaudible to everyone other than the target audience, and thus not to offend anybody while winking and nudging.

This issue may relate to HRC not having as solid a hold on black voters as Obama, not by a long shot. Time will tell.

[Robbins]

83. I may be one of few who remembers

what hillary supporters and even Bill Clinton said about Obama in 2008.Bill was quoted saying to ted kennedy a few years ago obama would have gotten us coffee and dismissed him winning SC primary saying well jesse jackson had won SC in 1984 and 1988.

I may only be a disabled white liberal but some of us do care about justice for all.Here In missouri ferguson aftermath has really made me see dems In Mo as useless.They are more intrested in protecting police nomatter what than having justice for people who
actully come out and vote for them.no dem can get elected statewide without heavy turnout In Kansas city and St Louis.

The problem with execution of young black men isn't just racism.It's also how police have been militazed.and the culture of police protecting their own.In St louis the country prosecutor cared more about protecting police than justice.

When Gignrich or any republican called obama a food stamp president that was racial dog whistle

[ieoeja]

98. What the Clinton campaign did in 2008 should preclude her ever being elected again.

And it wasn't just dog whistling. Don't forget voter suppression in Nevada. I wouldn't think too many African-Americans would vote for someone who tried suppressing the Black vote in 2008.

I do know one AA DUer doesn't care. Obama campaign wrote a memo before the racist attacks began saying they would use that against her should her campaign make any racist attacks. In that one AA DUers mind, the fact they were planning to accuse her of racism before the racist attacks means the accusation of racism is not true.

Voter suppression, Rev. Wright, "White working Americans", and on and on and on are ...? I dunno. But apparently not racist to that DUer.

Bernie won't use that against her. We can only hope someone else reminds the voters.

[daleanime]

115. +1

[L0oniX]

9. K & R Thanks for posting this.

[Smarmie Doofus]

12. Wow.

That's way ahead of the McCarthy v LBJ pace.

I hope there's a way to control for the "anyone but Clinton" variable.

[JDPriestly]

16. Washington state.

[NorthCarolina]

17. Climbing fast. At what percentage of support can the media no longer

ignore him?

[truedelphi]

18. The biggest problem that we Sanders supporters face is that when it

becomes clear that a full forty percent or more view Sanders favorably, then two things are bound to happen:

One) Hillary Clinton will lie through her teeth and say exactly what Sanders is saying.

Two) The Corporate-run media will start to tell lies about Bernie. For instance, rather than reporting on a respected poll like the Gallup poll saying his standing is at 40%, they will make up their own polls that might show how men his height have never been elected; or that Americans will not vote for such an old codger.

And when they are not lying about Bernie, they will be ignoring him. Totally! He could save an infant from a burning skyscraper, by scaling forty floors with his bare hands, and they won't report the story.

[BrotherIvan]

26. She's already going for #1

Her judges must overturn CU came five days after Bernie's interview. I think the campaign thinks that no one notices what Bernie says, so they can repeat it. Also look for heavily cribbed phrases from Elizabeth Warren. It will work with those who don't care much about politics. But I'm not sure Cilnton can rebrand herself so much.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

49. We must never forget what the media did to Gore and Dean.

If they want to get somebody, they have a lot of power.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

19. drip.. drip.. drip...

[angrychair]

20. that.is.awesome.

Lets get his campaign rocking and rolling!

[BrotherIvan]

28. Keep talking

Keep spreading the word. People power is how we are going to get there.

[project_bluebook]

23. USA Today/Gallup Poll May 4–6, 2007

Hillary Clinton 45%, Barack Obama 27%

[BrotherIvan]

27. Nice

This poll doesn't add up to 100% either so maybe there are still some people on the fence. I see people answering for Biden and Warren in some polls. It's good progress.

[project_bluebook]

37. There were a few others in the Poll, Edwards, Bill Richardson in low single %

I just wanted to show that polling ahead now doesn't mean your going to win the primary. Obama in 2007 was where Bernie is now give or take a few points and we all know how that turned out.

[BrotherIvan]

39. It's true, and I think a lot of the people who voted for Obama did so because he appeared more

liberal. He really started cleaning up when Edwards dropped out. I think a lot of people don't know Sanders yet, but once they hear they will switch. Obama had a lot of money and power behind him and Sanders doesn't. Holding out hope that Warren will put her support behind Bernie as they are so close on the issues.

[project_bluebook]

51. Even some republicans are on record saying they support Bernie

mainly because he is honest in his speech and beliefs. Has a history of getting conservative votes in his state. Thom Hartmann said Rancher Cliven Bundy liked Senator Sanders straight talk.

[BrotherIvan]

60. I think a lot of people, if they aren't scared by ZOMG SOCIALIST YOU GUYS!

Will be impressed by his straight talk. I was talkin with friends about the Robert Redford movie The Candidate the other day. We all agreed we didn't think we would see a politician tell the truth in our lifetime. It's like a spring breeze up in here.

[project_bluebook]

67. Been listening to Senator Sanders 1 hour call in show on Thom Hartmann every Friday

for many years now and am always impressed with how much he cares for we the people. His work in the Senate speaks volumes. I trust him and I am not one to give my trust to anyone easily.

[MoonchildCA]

89. Kind of embarrassing now, but at that point...

...I was in the Edwards camp.
Actually, my dream choice was Kucinich, but being in CA, I never expected him to still be on the ballot by the time I got to vote.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

52. Hillary's going to start having nightmares now.

[Paka]

30. Great news!

It's all up from here. We just have to keep spreading the news and get the word out.

[salib]

33. It is likely higher now

This poll was conducted on the 14th - 17th. At this rate he may already be pushing 30%.

[Mnpaul]

35. Clinton up big?

I thought she was at 63% two weeks ago when Bernie polled at 13%. To me it looks like Hillary dropped 6 and Bernie gained 11. I bet this makes some people very nervous.

[L0oniX]

40. Well Jerry Crawford, a long-time Monsanto lobbyist has been helping her out.

[BrotherIvan]

46. That might need to be an OP (hint)

[L0oniX]

48. It is in GD.

[Mnpaul]

58. They better watch out for bomblets

of small donations to their opponent. I seem to remember something like this happening in the past.

[BrotherIvan]

43. yayus!

She has to hold her big lead for dear life while other people can only go up.

Just. Like. 2008!

[peacebird]

53. Just. Like. 2008!

[BrotherIvan]

55. underdogs unite

[Mnpaul]

59. Real Democrats love underdogs

It is what our party used to be all about. Time to bring that back.

[SmittynMo]

41. Funny that I find

"The View" talking about Carly, and only because she's a woman. But not a word for Bernie at 24%. Her numbers are so low, she most likely will not make the "great 10 debate for the GOP". I think she's at 4%. Yet again, nothing for Bernie. His day is coming, and very soon, when the media can no longer ignore him.

[BrotherIvan]

45. Fiorina is a JOKE

The fact that she is trying to run again after her sound whooping in CA just shows how delusional she is.

[joshcryer]

54. Now will the people poo pooing Sanders campaign STFU.

I'm predicting upsets.

[WDIM]

56. Just wait till the debates.

I am counting the days Bernies numbers will rise dramatically.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

57. Climbing steadily?

Keep talking to folks you meet about Bernie's positions, folks

[Mnpaul]

61. Saw this on Craigslist last night

I'm so far right that I am left?

Bernie Sanders is refreshing and wants to break up the too big to fail banks. yay!
Sen. Warren is standing up to the corporate interests on this secret trade deal. yay! She is also much more intelligent than Obama.

What's happened to me?

Don't get me wrong. I like Ted Cruz too, except for his wanting to stick our nose into the Ukraine mess..

I don't know if it is for real but looks promising. If we can pick up some R's and a good amount of the I's, we can get it done.

[BrotherIvan]

64. Likes Ted Cruz too?

Well...a stopped clock.

[Mnpaul]

65. If he knew Ted Cruz like we know Ted Cruz

I imagine things would be different. Propaganda victim.

[BrotherIvan]

66. Definitely

I guess he like people that "buck the system" no matter which way they buck. Oh well, we may benefit from his gargantuan ignorance!

[Jackpine Radical]

85. Yes, I think we can split off some libertarian types.

To the extent that libertarians are civil libertarians, we share a bit of ground with them.

[Mnpaul]

117. Independents too

I talked to a friend today. He isn't a political junkie but he loves to listen to Bernie on Maher's show. He doesn't care for Hillary. We have his vote if the candidate is Bernie.

[Jackpine Radical]

119. I've been turning on to Bernie at a rate of about one a day.

I think a whole lot us happening under the radar. The talking heads are busy pointedly ignoring Bernie while Bernie's movement is growing rapidly, as a geometric progression at this point, and they have no way to stop it. It's like when Gandhi put the salt strike together.

[questionseverything]

126. i am having a hard time converting anyone

9 out of 10 peops i talk to are soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo excited he is running....bernie had us at "hello"

[Jackpine Radical]

127. I keep saying that there is a revolution of hope commencing

and it is under the media radar.

A major surprise may be on the way because, first, the media have Bernie on the Big Ignore, second, because the Mainstream media types are cognitively incestuous elitists who build their opinions by interviewing each other, and third, because people are watching less mainstream crap every day in favor of social media & maybe even personal communication.

The thing that the mainstreamers are missing is that there is a massive wave of anger, a bitter sense of betrayal, even a rising sense of desperation abroad in the general public. The media are seemingly sensing none of this. Everyone assumes that things will go on as usual, that a media blitz can overcome anything.

They are wrong.

[questionseverything]

128. it is being willfully ignored by the media

we need to count ourselves

i would like to see every bernie supporter get their own precinct's list of registered voters and talk to each one...people power can do anything

[Jackpine Radical]

129. That's the way to make it happen, through personal contact.

I tend to rely on random encounters with people. I'm the type who talks a lot to store clerks, etc. when I'm out & about. I start out by maybe asking questions about their merchandise that implies that I respect their opinion; not just "Where are the oranges," but "Have you tried any of these oranges? What do you think?"

For some reason, people seem to like to tell me things, all sorts of things. I often steer them onto politics and just draw them out, never try to assert my own stuff. If they're committed wingnuts or fundamentalists, it becomes obvious pretty soon, & I move on to other topics & disengage. However, if they start showing their malaise (to borrow Jimmy Carter's word), I might ask them if they've heard anything about this Bernie guy.

I'm going to start carrying along Bernie's 12 Steps. (That, BTW, is a great entree when you run across someone in a recovery program. "Hey, here's another 12-step program. What do you think of these?"

This is what works for me. Everybody needs to work out their own style.

But imagine this: Suppose you manage to really turn on 1 person a week, and each of them goes on to turn on others at the same rate. Starting with Bernie's 100,000 known supporters, at the end of 1 week, we would number 200,000, and so on, in a geometric progression. It would take something like 11 weeks to have 100 million recruits.

Now, obviously, it's not going to play out exactly like that, but sometimes it helps to have that kind or arithmetic in mind when we contemplate our actions. It's not all futile. There is a path toward the world we want. It can be made to work.

[TheNutcracker]

62. YAY!!!

GO BERNIE!!!! YEA!

[aspirant]

68. We're at 24%

and our 200,000 + volunteers won't be organized until after May 26 kick-off.

"Ain't no stoppin us now, we're on the move"

[BrotherIvan]

70. Good point

It's early and Bernie is moving UP.

[cui bono]

80. That's some good, quick movement!

Go Bernie!!!

[BrotherIvan]

87. Right?

I saw it in the group as a pro-Hill thread and then went to look at the numbers. Sanders up 11% already? Wow.

[L0oniX]

86. K & R

[Gamecock Lefty]

91. But wait!!!

When polls showed Hillary leading it was way too early for polls. You know, name recognition, the election is way off, etc.

What happened???

Oh yea, this one shows favorability towards Sanders so this one is OK.

Go get 'em, Hillary!

[frylock]

111. run along

[jwirr]

92. This is what we were expecting. Thank you. Go Bernie - keep the information coming.

[dpatbrown]

93. CA Field Poll

Hillary Clinton: 53%

Elizabeth Warren: 13%

Joe Biden: 6%

Bernie Sanders: 5%

[demwing]

94. Please repost this to the Populist Reform Group

this is FANTASTIC news

[hueymahl]

95. I think it is time to start talking about Hillary resigning from the race

for the sake of party unity!

[sabrina 1]

96. Bernie's poll numbers have been rising steadily since Jan. He was just at 3% back then

But the more people get to know him, the more his poll numbers rise.

But THAT is a huge JUMP.

Media will keep saying 'Hillary has huge advantage' even as her numbers sink.

Bernie went from 3% to 7% to 10% to 13% and now to 24%!



It pays to have a very enthusiastic volunteer support system.

[BrotherIvan]

97. It is pretty promising

Can't wait to see what happens with Warren. That should bring a number of people his way.

[kenfrequed]

99. Stay positive

I urge us all to stay positive and not get pulled into silly arguments on Hillary posts. Share videos and news bits on Facebook too. 98% of my friends never even go to DU so whatever is going on here doesn't actually make it outside as much.

Stay positive and stay committed and don't get angry. Don't get into characterizations or arguments about "electability." Stay focused on the facts.

[BrotherIvan]

101. Keep talking

That is how people will find out about him. He is honest and people will appreciate that. Some people like politicians to say whatever it takes to get elected, but I think a lot of people are sick of it. That's where the power is.

[kenfrequed]

102. Exactly!

His interview with Wolf Blitzer was ptich perfect. He spoke honestly and directly and people are starting to enjoy that.

We also have to try to be receptive towards people currently backing Hillary. People are going to start realizing there are other candidates and we don't want to alienate any Hillary people that decide she isn't progressive enough or seems too close to the big banks.

The Hillary supporters here have told us again that they are outnumbered here as part of their "DU is not the real world" meme. Well if that is the case then all we need to do is stop paying attention to the most ascerbic of her supporters and those posts will fade right down the list.

[WillyT]

100. HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!!

[BrotherIvan]

104. It's a small poll, but it's a start

I think Sanders proposal for education is solid. I want kids in my neighborhood to have a chance to go to college. It's rare to see something so specific on the campaign trail as we have been trained to accept platitudes. But mostly, I hate being lied to.

[questionseverything]

105. wooooohoooooo

11 points in one week is a great jump

i would like to see everyone of bernie's supporters start working and counting their own precinct

it cost very little to get a registered voters list of your own precinct.....and it cost nothing but time and dedication to talk to those folks on that list....and when you walk past a house not on the registration list,knock on that door, try and get them registered and tell them about bernie's plan

i admit i am scared to be hopeful but we still have lots of time....

[BrotherIvan]

106. This is a great idea

I was just thinking of some stuff in the shower as to how we can talk to people. I'm not an extrovert really, so I am trying to think of things I would be more effective at. Hoping the campaign finds a brilliant structure for all those volunteers. There will be more.

[questionseverything]

108. we need to count ourselves (our own precincts)

and then the national campaign needs to help keep track and organize those numbers

this is basically how obama won, he knew what the count (basically) would be in every precinct so even when rove said nono there are all these votes out there , potus team KNEW better

we need to do same

even if you are not comfortable talking to folks, get a simple flyer printed and hang it on doors

lots of ways to skin a cat

[sabrina 1]

125. Those are all great suggestions! Maybe you could post them in the Bernie group?

[merrily]

107. Hillary's been campaigining for so many years, & Sanders' rollout has not yet begun.

Even his informal announcement was a matter of days ago. So, this is very encouraging.


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[NYC_SKP]

122. psssst

14 recs and no replies.

Good stuff: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026714278

[merrily]

124. Lack of many replies may indicate that good stuff is no surprise to members of the Bernie Group.

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And/or that a three day weekend has begun.

[peoli]

110. thats about where obama was a year out

[daleanime]

114. K&R.....

[RoccoR5955]

130. Wasn't it just two weeks ago that Mrs. Clinton was up by over 50%?

If she slips this much in such a short time, she is toast.
At this rate, by the time the primaries come around, Mrs. Clinton will be down to negative numbers!

[BrotherIvan]

131. She still is over 50%, but her lead is slipping

The idea that she is the inevitable, unbeatable candidate who should run unopposed is the same thing they tried in 2008. And as her lead was eaten at by Obama, the narrative for his is that he had momentum while she was losing. That's a bad position to be in. Every one of her moves were seen as just trying to hold on. Why anyone thinks that can't happen again, I don't know.

The best news is that the media has already made the expectations for Bernie so low, he has nowhere to go but up. Every poll, every announcement will be cause to celebrate. It will energize his supporters and make him seem fresh and exciting. If Hill's supporters are anything in real life like they are on DU, they will be chasing people away in droves. A lot of her early polls with big leads are people saying they will vote Democratic, and she was the presumed nominee. As that changes and more people hear about Bernie, the polls will shift, count on it.

I am not one who is so confident in his chance. The money is a big deal and he will be outspent 1000-1. And obviously there is a lot of identity politics at work as well.

[RoccoR5955]

132. Perhaps I worded it incorrectly.

Wasn't it just a few weeks ago when Mrs. Clinton had a fifty point lead? It is now down to much less than that.

Oh and Bernie does not need the money. For one, most of that money is spent on TV ads, and not as many folks watch TV any more. Second, Bernie has WE THE PEOPLE. Real flesh and blood volunteers who will talk to people one on one for free!
This is what shall win him the nomination, and lead to a landslide like we have never before seen in the US.

[BrotherIvan]

133. From your keyboard...

We need a change in this country. I can see on DU and other places on the net where older folks are so ingrained, they believe that neoliberalism is *synonymous* with reality. I am always shocked to read it. I agree that people who get their info from TV tend to be the most uninformed yet the most strongly convinced that they aren't (one would think it would be the opposite). So I do hope that Bernie's popularity on the net is taking hold and leads to a revolution in thought for the American people. Young people NEED to get out there and vote for their futures. This is their last chance.