What my father in law thought of the debate last night.

[retrowire]

I heard that he had an opinion on the debates last night, I wanted to hear it. I respect this man, alot.

He said that he found O'Malley to be way too aggressive. Scary even. He said that, despite O'Malley's thrashing, he could tell he didn't really mean it. His passion was interpreted as fake.

Regarding Hillary is "Well I don't like her." He said she's a liar. She would manipulate wording right there on stage and hope the average person wouldn't catch it.

Regarding our main man Bernie, he said that he likes him. He said, and I quote, "He's the only candidate that truly has the balls to deal with Russia and Isis."

This surprised me! I didn't really think of Bernie's foreign policy as being one of his brightest platforms, even though I myself TOTALLY agree with it. I feel that most people would look at it and think "Why not fight?"

But here my father in law, and EXTREME HISTORY BUFF and VETERAN, a man who's favorite movie genre is war films, documentaries and such. (Oh man, you should see his collection.) This man says that it was Bernie! Bernie was the only one that he believed on that stage. Bernie is the only one he believes CAN and WILL do something for our nation.

Let me add, he wasn't for Bernie or anyone before watching this debate. He's a very studious man. He doesn't follow others opinions, he makes his own.

[TIME TO PANIC]

1. Authenticity outshines political polish.

The people know what's real when they get a chance to see it.

[williesgirl]

2. Good news. Thanks for sharing.

[haikugal]

3. Excellent!

Thanks for this informative post Retrowire..your FIL is a Berner! How cool is that?

[retrowire]

5. It's like, totally awesome. nt

[in_cog_ni_to]

4. See? Once people see and hear Bernie, they like him and THAT, my friends is what the

DNC, corrupt DWS and HRH are afraid of! They KNEW this was going to happen. That's why we have only 6 debates scheduled on the worst days possible, a DNC software glitch that gets ONLY BERNIE blocked from his files and the CORRUPT CORPORATE OWNED MSM shilling for the Corporate Owned candidate, HRH.

They knew full well how powerful Bernie was going to be since 99% of this country now knows how CORRUPT both parties are.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[Dont call me Shirley]

6. Once people listen to Bernie, people connect with Bernie.

[karynnj]

7. If that is true -- and that is what almost everyone I have met IN VT has said, it is good Iowa and

NH are first. The process means that the candidate HAS to meet people face to face and win them over. This was not a Clinton strength in 2008. (She came in third in Iowa - though she started with the highest name recognition and was treated then almost as if she were the nominee. Before Iowa, she was 20 points up in NH and she had the strongest party apparatus (the Sheheens') behind her --- and she ended up winning by 2 points -- after she faced the prospect that she could very well lose it.

Imagine that Bernie does win Iowa, he is already ahead in NH - so any momentum is gravy. This means two triumphant wins -- that pretty much have to be covered.

[Dont call me Shirley]

10. I do imagine such a scenario, karyn.

[zeemike]

8. That's an interesting view your father in law has

About Bernie being the best to deal with ISIS and foreign affairs.

But I understand his reasoning...an honest man is always better at it...not someone who thinks killing a foreign leader is something to joke and laugh about.

This country needs honesty more than anything right now.

[zentrum]

9. Interesting.

OMalley did seem a little unhinged. I think the frustration and helplessness he feels from what the DNC has done to him was just impacted in him.

It was Bernie's best debate IMO. Right on the heels of the "hack scandal". Impressive. Hillary's vast experience always gives her the veneer of competency, but since she doesn't come from a core of convictions, I don't know if she can actually wield power in a non-self-serving way.

The current fractured state of the Democratic Party, created almost personally by DWS, is a real concern.

Does your father in law think Bernie can win?

[jwirr]

14. I think O'Malley was upset. I did not like the way the panel

kept refusing to let all three candidates give their view on the questions. I saw it as very arrogant control.

The questioners would talk about a situation and then keep some candidate out of the discussion.

[tblue37]

27. The moderators kept putting him off, as though he were an impudent child

butting into grownups' conversations. I don't blame him for being frustrated.

Meanwhile, because Bernie politely raised his hand for recognition, they ignored him half the time, too. He even had to request that the moderators enforce the rules, which they still didn't.

Apparently they only wanted to talk to HRC most of the time.

[jwirr]

30. That is how I saw it. Remember how they ignored Webb and

how angry he got?

We have way too many people this election making decisions that allow them to choose the candidate for us. Democracy anyone?

[zentrum]

34. That was my perception too.

HRC got more airtime and MoM was cut out, treated like a potted plant.

I don't think Clinton was prepared for Bernie's apology which took the air out of the "scandal". What could she do but graciously accept?

Bernie hates these distractions which don't effect a single family in America and always wants to get back to the real issues.

[druidity33]

35. If only she graciously accepted his apology...

i didn't hear any acceptance there. In fact, i'd love to see the transcript, because while watching it i was pretty sure she never acknowledged his apology.

[hopemountain]

72. "thank you for your comment" "we've agreed to an inquiry"

this is how she accepted bernie's apology. she neither acknowledged the apology nor the call for an audit. i am shocked and disgusted at her falseness. she is very disrespectful of american citizens - unless of course, they are handing her fists full of money.

[tblue37]

65. One live tweet time total I read was

Clinton 20 min., 20 seconds; Bernie 13 min. and some seconds; MOM 11 min. and some seconds.

Basically, it seemed as though the moderators were trying to do an in-depth interview with HRC and were annoyed that Bernie and MOM kept trying to interrupt their interview!

Despite his lead in NH and his close second in Iowa, Bernie was treated in this debate as though he were polling in the low single digits. Obviously, MOM is polling that low, but perhaps he would not be if the media and DWS didn't keep trying to choose our candidates for us by preventing anyone from hearing or seeing the other people running.

I am a Bernie supporter, but even if I were backing HRC I would be disgusted at the way TPTB keep trying to prevent the voters from having any say in the supposedly democratic process of choosing the candidates!

[LittleGirl]

54. We watched it and noticed the same thing

The moderators were awful and seemed that they only wanted gotcha moments and did not allow the three candidates to answer each question. I kept saying, come on, there's only 3 up there, let each of them answer. And then, they would allow follow ups but didn't allow the subject to continue, they started with a new question. And the last question was the worst, come on, who cares about flowers and china in the WH. WTF? Horrible debate it was annoying to watch. damn it.

[HoneychildMooseMoss]

73. I got the same impression

Hillary got to answer each question, but Bernie and O'Malley were sometimes denied the right to express their views on the same question.

[LittleGirl]

74. Yep

and I kept saying, this is a debate, not an interview! Let each candidate answer the question!
Welcome to DU.

[bvar22]

64. After the first hour,

I had to switch over to the Jets game every time Hillary started to filibuster
and shouting over the other candidates and Moderators.
I spent the rest of the "debates" switching back and forth.

[senz]

29. O'Malley and Bernie need to address it publicly

until the public recognizes what's going on.

If I didn't have a horse in this race, I'd still be interested to know whether or not I'm being manipulated.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

17. I noticed that about O'Malley.

He seemed wired. Like he drank a bit too much coffee. He tried to interrupt at least a few times, and seemed agitated.

[maggies farm]

19. Almost like Meth...

I attribute to Adderall, and that helped me to understand his behavior.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

26. That's what I was thinking but didn't want to offend anyone.

Thanks for taking the bullet!

[eridani]

51. I think he was working on differentiation--proabably a little too hard. n/t

[Cosmocat]

55. The quirky nature of politics

VERY often, really good candidates just never get air, and I can appreciate, as human beings, when they become frustrated with that.

It is what it is - a two horse race.

[questionseverything]

62. o malley came off as rude and spoiled

honestly he should not even been on the stage with the low support he receives

like the op's fil, i do not believe he believes a word he says

[bvar22]

63. At this stage of the campaign, O'Malley has no choice but to attack.

It is the only way to get noticed.
As a candidate, he needs a "game changer".

[font color = firebrick]*****WARNING****Sports Metaphor****** [/font]
It is like playing football.
It is well into the 4th quarter, and O'Malley is 4 or 5 scores behind.
He can't keep doing what he was doing.
He HAS to start throwing bombs.
If not, he might as well head for the lockers now.

[zentrum]

71. Yes, that's very much

….what's going on.

Thought he was pretty good in the second debate. He helped underscore how the progressive message is different from many of HRC's positions.

But since this is his last one——understandable he'd go for broke. I felt for the guy. It was a bit painful to watch——I don't like public humiliations. He'd be higher in the polls if we'd had six debates and better scheduling. His anger at DWS is well justified. I feel the same way.

[cantbeserious]

11. Good News - As We All Know - The Truth - Thank You For Sharing

eom

[senz]

12. People recognize truth when they hear it.

No wonder DWS wants to keep Bernie under wraps.

[Enthusiast]

24. Excellent point.

[BeanMusical]

31. +1 Exactly.

[highprincipleswork]

13. When you look past the mainstream media, the spin, and the polished surfaces, authenticity wins!!!

I also trust Bernie to handle all our affairs, from economy to foreign affairs, because he is resolute in standing firmly and authentically for things that are correct.

Once you look past the media spin, propagandized public opinion (amongst my friends and relatives even!), and you gaze straight at the person to represent you honestly and truthfully and strongly, I don't see how you can pick anyone else.

OK, that's just my own opinion, thankfully shared by many others, and it's real. That's how it can be seen by folks like your father in law. That's why, if given the right amount of support and media coverage, that is our absolute best bet to win the White House in November.

[840high]

15. k/r +100

[Bonhomme Richard]

16. I thought Bernie was spot on about dealing with ISIL. n/t

[Enthusiast]

23. Me too.

[sorechasm]

18. Focused upon ending the 'endless wars' Bernie is.

Like no one else. He's so good at describing the heart of our troubles, in terms of democratic solutions.

Last night seemed his first narrative focused on our Middle East troubles. ('Forget about regime change. Destroy ISIS. Eliminate their funding stream'.) I only wish that Bernie would show how the link between imperialism and recruiting terrorists, is part and parcel with the larger narrative of the arrogance of the 1%.

Jimmy Carter's 30 years of diplomacy have diffused hundreds of potential conflicts; Hillary's regime change policies will create hundreds.

[99th_Monkey]

48. Yes. and it's about time SOMEONE said "hell no" to endless war. Thank you Bernie!!!! nt

[libdem4life]

20. I did a good bit of my growing up years in my native Nebraska. And that was a long time ago, but

when we went to Iowa, they were the same kind of people. Farmers. Small town folk. Hardworking. No nonsense. Think for themselves. I will be thrilled if they can see through the "glamour and production" that was called the Democratic Debate. Unfortunately I missed a lot of it with a bad live feed.

[Uncle Joe]

21. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for sharing, retrowire.

[Enthusiast]

22. Kicked and recommended!

Thank you for sharing that, retrowire.

[hopemountain]

25. the most insincere words from hillary

were when she told bernie - after his apology: "thank you for your comment.." and "we've agreed to an 'inquiry'.."

'apology' and 'audit' were just too difficult for her to reflect back. her response was insincere and cowardly, in my opinion.

[Jarqui]

28. "Bernie was the only one that he believed"

Thank you for your nice anecdote.

I'm in the same place. Maybe I'm a sucker but it means a lot to me to support someone I believe.

[BeanMusical]

32. Kick and R

[Plucketeer]

33. Sounds like your FIL and I

have a lot in common - save for the fact that I was in favor of Bernie before he even announced. But good for him, seeing thru the façade of Clinton and O'm's anxiousness.

[democrank]

36. Your father in law`s comments are interesting to me, particularly since he`s a veteran.

When it comes to foreign policy, I believe Bernie would be tough and principled.

[ChiciB1]

37. My, My, My... You've CERTAINLY Proved Yourself To Br Quite

the Bernie Blogger! I remember not so long ago welcoming you to DU and was impressed by your enthusiasm and the fact that you're a millennial. I too know millennials who are supporting Bernie, in fact 3 of my own grandchildren are old enough to vote. One just this year.

I'm a long time activist who has seen many elections come and go. As a Boomer and active since that time, Viet Nam and all the upheaval from way back then, we DID feel we made a difference. It was said after that WAR that wasn't a WAR, so they told us we heard the words "never again!" BUT words are only words as we've had to learn and deal with all these many years.

I was very young when John Kennedy was killed and then MLK and then so many others who were proud to stand up and actually die for what they believed in. All the leaders of the Civil Rights Movement that were targeted and killed. BUT, it was when Robert Kennedy was killed that broke my heart in little pieces. Not that the others before him mattered less, it just seemed that he would have been able to reach out and connect with America in a very personal way. I really felt he wanted to do more for "we the people" than anyone I had seen who came before him. I think he would have made a better POTUS than his brother might have been himself. But we'll never know.

I say all this because right now I view Bernie Sanders in much the same way as I did Robert Kennedy. They killed Robert with bullets and they're trying to kill Bernie with MONEY! And as the saying goes, Money Talks And Shit Walks!

This country has already been called an Oligarchy by President Jimmy Carter and if we are unable to have our voices heard through Bernie Sanders, I do FEAR this country called America is in great peril.

Read Thom Hartman's book "The Crash Of 2016" or Thomas Piketty's (he's a French economist) book about capitalism and the inequality between the rich and poor. Sorry, I can't recall the name of his recent book. I haven't read it yet and it's on my list to read because I think it defines austerity in simple terms. I was recently given the name of Martin Armstrong by someone who told me to find out more about him...

So, again "retrowire" I again thank you for the activism I see coming from you. You are the future and you are needed more than you might even know.

Let's do what we can to keep this country from going the way of Rome!

[ChiciB1]

38. OKAY... That Br Is Supposed To BE... BE! n/t

[retrowire]

39. Thank you for your words of wisdom.

I've been interested in picking up Robert Reich's latest book but I worry about whether or not a book about economics would put me to sleep or not. But I suppose I must try!

Thank you for the additional references, I will keep them in mind.

FEELTHEBERN.

[ChiciB1]

40. Actually, Let's Make A Deal... I'll Read

YOU Energize and keep things hot and heavy! I suspect your energy level is higher than mine AND I love to read!

[retrowire]

42. You got it!

Ahem.... ROOOOOARRRRRRR!!!!!!

[anniebelle]

52. Very well said, thank you!

[Hulk]

41. Hate to be a downer, but...

We have to remember "the establishment", "the King-makers", "the man", the banksters and other powers that control we peons are NOT going to go quietly with Senator Sanders. He has a 30+year record he is running on, and although it's a great one from our perspective, it's a threat to those mentioned. They are going to do everything in their power to make it a HRC vs gop battle; once again, no choice.

They let President Obama slip by because he looked like a lightweight, and he had no record to threaten them with. Besides, the country smelt like pig shit when the elections were heated up, and I seriously think they saw Willard moving into the White House. Once he got in there, we all saw how his views and actions transformed. Don't get me wrong; he did tons of really great stuff that never would have gotten done if he hadn't won.

Bernie is a clear representative OF the people. If you think the repuKKKes hated President Obama, they are,going to go ballistic if Bernie should ever get elected.

I agree with your fIL, but too many Americans are focused on grabbing their BMW or just trying to keep a roof over their heads; and too many are just to hateful, blind and ignorant to even consider an independent "socialist" to even consider listening to him; and half this fook'n country won't even vote - and many of those sad sacks are proud to not be a voter. To their little pea brains, it somehow absolves them of any responsibility for how fook'd up this country is, and has been forever.

Good for you. Good for your FIL, and good for all the other readers on these sites that take them time to at least be informed. Hope there are enough of us to make a difference; but I can't even afford to make a $5 bet on this country, one way or the other.

Bernie would be the best thing for our future, but even if he doesn't win, he'll still be making noise in the Senate. Personally, I'd like to see a ticket with Bernie and HRC as VP, but I don't see that happening either.

Keep your eye on the rear view mirror, cause I see Paul Ryan lurking behind the gop curtains.

[Laffy Kat]

43. While at work I frequently have conversations with patients..

Patients waiting for their imaging studies. Frequently those discussions turn to health care and insurance, then the high cost of insurance, then the ACA, and finally the presidential candidates. The patients who seem the most concerned about health care costs are overwhelmingly for Bernie. Age doesn't seem to matter. This morning I had a couple in--the husband was having an MRI--and as they were waiting, the conversation turned to the ACA and Colorado's single-payer voter issue we successfully got on the ballot. As they were leaving the clinic, the wife leaned over to me and whispered, "I'm a Boomer for Bernie." I gave her a big smile and a thumbs up. Also worth mentioning, more and more I'm seeing "Bernie" bumper stickers in our clinic parking lot. I honestly haven't seen one Repub. sticker.

[Nyan]

44. Foreign policy is what draws me to Bernie, too

He has the most sane foreign policy stance among all the candidates running.

[pangaia]

59. I agree 1100.905%.

It is actually easy to miss, for those not REALLY listening to him.

There is so much that goes on about which we know nothing... He knows. And I am sure so does Clinton. But ----Bernie is NOT one of the disaster capitalists. Hillary Clinton IS !

Just think Lockheed Martin.

[SusanaMontana41]

70. Strongly agree. eom

[DhhD]

45. The 1% candidate at the debate told the same lie about healthcare as was found in the WSJ.

That is one of the lies that the GOP is speaking about today. Trump made it plural-lies. The WSJ retracted the article several months ago.

What other Clinton lies, will the GOP open up about to the public now that the Democratic Primary Debates are over? ABC News needs to do some explaining. They televised Clinton's lie. What other lies could Trump be talking about and get ABC to disseminate for the GOP?

The OP talked about lies of Hillary Clinton on national TV. The Democrats are now going to have to own this.

Superdelegates: Clinton should know better.

[malokvale77]

46. Your father-in-law seems to be a gem.

He reminds me of my (late) father. Very smart, very studious. Educated before critical thinking was dropped from public education.

I salute him.

[glinda]

47. Lovely post.

[Pauldg47]

49. You can tell when she lies ...when she's looking up trying to grasp the right things to say...

[7962]

66. I thought you were going to say "her lips are moving"

But you're right

[JDPriestly]

50. Thanks. Very interesting. And Bernie is the one who would best deal with foreign policy.

People and especially leaders in other countries are smart for the most part.

They deserve to be talked to in an honest, straightforward manner. And that's how Bernie talks to everybody.

[emsimon33]

53. He IS very perceptive

[beemer27]

56. This is not surprising.

Most people who study history, and have served in the military, will listen to Bernie, and probably support him. Bernie cuts thru the BS and uses common sense. He is also genuine. The insincerity of the other candidates (R and D) comes thru to any one who dares listen. Bernie's chances of election are not great, but he DOES have an honest chance, and if elected, will be the only one to deliver on his promises. Wouldn't it be nice to have a sane and honest person in the White House? Congress will most likely fight him on many issues, but they will have learned a lesson from the election. Sometimes the good guy does win, and the voters are not as stupid as they had thought.

[ViseGrip]

57. But was he polled?

[Fantastic Anarchist]

58. I'm a history buff and love war movies.

And it is without question that Bernie's foreign policy would be the best. Also, groups like ISIS and Russia are planning for Hilary, and her policy plays right into them. ISIS wouldn't know what to do with Bernie.

K&R!

[liberalnarb]

60. Bernie seems to attract many different people from different walks of life and various opinions.

[dpatbrown]

61. "alot"

two words----a lot. Sorry, as a teacher, my pet peeve. And I admit, why do so many people spell it incorrectly, because teachers teach it incorrectly.

[retrowire]

68. Look, I know okay?!

It's just despite knowing that it's actually "a lot" I PREFER "alot"

So I'm just gonna have to continue doing it wrong!

lol I understand your pain.

[dpatbrown]

69. OK

Just having some fun.

[7962]

67. If only the average voter was as smart as you FiL.

The polls seem to show they're not. But that could change