Clinton donors say Sanders is raising more than the front-runner

[n8dogg83]

Hillary Clinton’s donors say they think Bernie Sanders will raise more money in the fourth quarter than their candidate for the first time ever — a testament to the underdog’s online cash juggernaut and a harbinger of donor fatigue among the front-runner’s backers.

Clinton campaign officials said she remains on track to reach her goal of $100 million for the primary by the end of the year; she had already collected $77 million by the end of the third quarter.


But Sanders nearly matched Clinton in the most recent quarter — raising an eye-popping $26 million to Clinton’s $28 million — and multiple fundraising sources on Clinton’s team told POLITICO they expect the Vermont senator to beat her when the next financial disclosures are filed on Jan. 30, just before the Iowa caucuses.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/bernie-sanders-fundraising-hillary-clinton-217063#ixzz3v51TwhiZ


Hey guys, this was posted over in the cesspool called GD-P but I thought I'd share it here in the Bernie Group. If we step up the donations through the rest of the month and come out with some strong numbers at the end of January, that would be a powerful piece of motivation to start off the Iowa caucuses.

Lets do this!!!

[ruffburr]

1. Explain to me-

How Hillary is the front runner if even with her corporate donors and super Pac's she's behind Bernie who is being supported by individual Donations ie Actual Voters, Baffles the Crap outta me

[n8dogg83]

4. I'm afraid i don't have an explanation. Kinda shatters the "Clinton juggernaut" meme doesn't it?

The best part is, even if we don't outraise Clinton, I am willing to bet that Bernie has more cash on hand by the end of the year. Hillary has probably been burning through cash over the past few months, whereas Bernie has been running a pretty lean and mean campaign. He also has less than 1% of his donors that have maxed out on contributions, whereas, last I heard, Hillary had somewhere between 30-40% of her donor base maxed out (not factoring in SuperPacs). So Bernie has the staying power to be really competitive in the later primary states while Hillary will be trying to scape money together from her donors.

[Jim Lane]

8. My guess as to the explanation

First, you refer to Clinton's SuperPACs. The linked article isn't clear on the point but I strongly suspect that it's comparing fundraising by each campaign directly, excluding any SuperPAC money (of which Clinton has a pile and Sanders has none).

Second, note that the comparison isn't even overall fundraising by the campaigns. It's the projection for campaign fundraising in the final quarter of 2015. Clinton has been running for the 2016 nomination since mid-2008, but Sanders was much later to the party. Clinton worked many of her donors earlier than Sanders did. That leaves him more room to grow in the later reporting periods but doesn't mean he has an overall advantage. I strongly suspect that total campaign fundraising through the end of 2015 (not just the final quarter) will show Clinton well ahead.

Third, a factor noted in the linked article is that Clinton has a complacency problem -- not that she personally is complacent, but that some prospective donors are. They think she has a lock on the nomination. Why should they fork over money just to help her run up the score? On this theory, if Sanders does manage to win both Iowa and New Hampshire, quite a few new donors would flock to Clinton's banner, and old ones would cough up more (if not maxed out), because they would suddenly perceive that there really was a threat. (Of course, such a 1-2 punch for Sanders would also get him a big boost in donations.)

[JonLeibowitz]

2. I would be careful here.

This could easily be a Hillary strategy to seem behind, but then announce after donations are closed how much they got and declare victory that they have surpassed Bernie. It's a way of spinning negative news (Bernie is neck and neck with Hillary) to a positive Hillary story.

Remember how the media works...then remember that the Clinton campaign knows this too.

[LiberalArkie]

3. It is just a money raising scheme along with a method to increase he numbers of small donations.

Most of her big donors probably maxed out their donations in the first month or so. And Bernie has made so many points with people (and so did Obama) with large numbers of smaller donations, I think she believes she can do the same because she has so many paid "yes" people that keep telling he so.

[n8dogg83]

5. True. Its a fundraising tactic. I think the fact that her campaign has to use it shows we are

a threat.

[libdem4life]

6. It was her inevitability that made her an investment likely to pay off.

Donors, as we all know, are not red or blue. They are green and for-profit businesses. Now, astonishingly, this scrappy, Vermont person comes along...starting out at 0 name recognition and now is poised to either win or come close in the first two primaries.

The MSM can only do so much, but it can't fool investors forever. Most don't have a "dog in the hunt" as does the Corporate MSM and the Established Candidates.

And his one day fundraising bonanza after the DNC/HRC/DWS debacle reeked of fear...fear that she could lose and more raised eyebrows. And they watch television and the note Bernie's event attendance and responses of the crowd...call a donor anything but not dumb.

Then the $1 email...they, like we, saw a second incidence of fear, stupidity and weakness. Please, please send me just $1.

And all is not peachy in Emailgate, either...regardless of Bernie's agreement with her...At That Time. The FBI is still investigating Pagliano and those are the three most feared letters in Any Campaign, especially around the untrustworthiness issue.

Fascinating.

[wilsonbooks]

7. This is huge news.

It is entirely possible that Bernie could come out of the early primaries a winner and actually have more money on hand to pour into the March Primaries than Clinton. Hillary's supporters are limited to giving 2,500 a head and a lot of them are already maxed out. Hillary will have to spend more and more time at fund raisers and less time campaigning to keep up. Her campaign has already burned through a good portion of the money they have raised so far. It is even possible that Bernie has more cash on hand than she does.

[Divernan]

9. That's why she pushed quadruple bypass Bill out onto the fundraising circuit

in the dead of winter. She scheduled him for 20 fundraisers in Dec. alone. Not to mention her pregnant daughter. At least they'll be traveling in the luxurious comfort of large private jets.