Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumIt's your choice: Regime Change or Improving the Lives of Americans
Hillary said we can not afford Bernie's plans to improve the lives of Americans during the debate. Yet, she also said that we can afford regime change in the ME.
Before we bring Democracy to other countries, maybe we should restore it here in America.
Below are quotes from Bernie about War and his Priorities.
Photo from: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-veterans_55e8b4c3e4b002d5c07577eb
"Let us wage a moral and political war against war itself, so that we can cut military spending and use that money for human needs." Bernie Sanders
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War should be in my view, the last resort of a great nation. We should explore every other option -- and I know that opens up the political types: Oh, youre wimpy. You dont want to go to war. Well, I dont accept that. Ive talked to too many people who came home without legs, without eyesight, with traumatic brain injury, - Bernie Sanders
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"I voted against the defense budget because it is absurd to spend 60 percent of our discretionary budget on defense when we have so many unmet needs in terms of education, infrastructure, nutrition and health care. Everyone knows the defense budget has tens of billions of dollars of waste and fraud. It's time to get our priorities right." - Bernie Sanders
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"After 14 years in Afghanistan and 12 years in Iraq, after the loss of almost 7,000 troops and the expenditure of trillions of dollars, I very much fear U.S. involvement in an expanding and never-ending quagmire in that region of the world." - Bernie Sanders
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"The U.S. currently spends more money on the military than the next nine countries combined. Yet, despite some 45 million Americans living in poverty, 35 million without health care and veterans throughout the country sleeping on the streets, the only program that Republicans want to increase funding for is the military. Why?" - Bernie Sanders
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Do we substantially increase military spending and prepare for endless war in the middle-east, or do we make college affordable for all Americans, regardless of income. Bernie Sanders
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Scuba
(53,475 posts)... just what is it the defense budget is defending?
RKP5637
(67,108 posts)tecelote
(5,122 posts)tecelote
(5,122 posts)What are the successes? Where is American Democracy thriving from our ME wars?
tecelote
(5,122 posts)Thanks.
This was interesting...
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And we, the taxpayers, are footing the bill.
Every hour, taxpayers in the United States are paying $312,500 for cost of military action against ISIS.
Every hour, taxpayers in the United States are paying $10.17 million for cost of war in Afghanistan.
Every hour, taxpayers in the United States are paying $365,297 for cost of war in Iraq.
Every hour, taxpayers in the United States are paying $10.54 million for total cost of wars since 2001.
Every hour, taxpayers in the United States are paying $8.43 million for Homeland Security Since 9/11.
Every hour, taxpayers in the United States are paying $58 million for the Department of Defense.
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Do Americans really think war should be our top priority?
Martin Eden
(12,864 posts)Perpetual war also means perpetual manipulation through fear, keeping the American people divided.
stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)Lots of our systems seem to work together with that objective in mind.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)n2doc
(47,953 posts)I wish more people understood this concept. The Clinton's have always been about whomever pays them the most. Like the vast majority of pols.
They will do the right thing only if it benefits their benefactors, or if there is no cost to said benefactors.
See:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251905935
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)so close to the truth.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)I mean it.
This nation must get its priorities straight.
Martin Eden
(12,864 posts)We're bringing chaos and perpetual war, which is an end in itself for the Military Industrial Complex and the National Security State.
ybbor
(1,554 posts)"Be nice to America, or we'll bring democracy to your country"
Martin Eden
(12,864 posts)Our electoral system is corrupted by gerrymandering, voter suppression, and campaign finance laws equating money with speech.
That bumper sticker can be taken as a commentary on the chaos & death that accompanies our regime changes overseas, or as an indictment of our own dysfunctional democracy.
MisSpentYth
(2 posts)We should focus on fixing our own democracy, instead of imposing our type of democracy on other countries, which has caused more damage and chaos, as opposed to bringing about a better society. And this is going by the assumptions that our country's only interest in such countries was to bring about democracy, not some other obviously greedy endeavors!
tech3149
(4,452 posts)The true regime change will be Sanders because he will work to control or change the power structures that do harm to most of us while enriching themselves.
I agree with a quote from Kennedy that those that make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable Those among us that have been fighting against a peaceful revolution have the biggest resources but we are seeing that that just isn't enough.
We have been entertained to death for most of my life but even if most people are spending too much time on their smartphone to talk to the person standing next to them, the revolution is coming.
I will continue to work for the peaceful revolution and hope I am prepared if the alternative is inevitable.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)I will continue to work for the peaceful revolution and hope I am prepared if the alternative is inevitable.
Indeed, that has been my mantra since St. Ronnie Raygun began the overt destruction of unions and pilfering of our social security. The corporate megalomaniacs--who've usurped our media, our politics, AND our global economy--will not go quietly into that good night, and I expect the push back to be horrendous and deadly. However, they have grossly underestimated the Hoi Polloi.
(BTW, Michael Moore's new film will dovetail nicely with Bernie's campaign!)
Go, BERNIE!!!
pangaia
(24,324 posts)the US is so involved in 'wars-' - it is do damn profitable.. for some.
Disaster Capitalism. Simplified-
--Make enemies. Destroy it(them) with US made weapons. PROFIT. Rebuild it (sometimes) by US corporations (PROFIT). Even health care comes into it. -- Think Lockheed Martin.
tecelote
(5,122 posts)If we take profit out of our wars they will end tomorrow.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)They should stop calling themselves Dems.
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)DhhD
(4,695 posts)Duval
(4,280 posts)stupidicus
(2,570 posts)and there's no guesswork involved in determining who has the most/more "moral" record and current platform for this country
That's why I've long argued that her opposition to single payer alone tips the scales irreversably in Bernie's direction, given the amount of needless deaths and quantity of equally needless human misery only it can avoid.
LS_Editor
(893 posts)This satirical website hits on a lot of great points about how perpetual war is paid for by austerity, which lowers the standard of living of the vast majority of Americans.
Americans Excited for ISIS War at Expense of Own Standard of Living
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More at link...
azmom
(5,208 posts)Americans. #unidosconbernie
Faux pas
(14,672 posts)and
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)tecelote
(5,122 posts)Yes. Take back America for Americans.