Susan Sarandon, "I don't vote with my vagina."

[Playinghardball]

[Rod Beauvex]

1. Makes me wonder.

Did Palin voters vote with their dick?

[virtualobserver]

3. the ones that I knew seemed to be doing that....they were way too excited about her candidacy

[Maedhros]

8. I remember in 2000 a number of my ostensibly-liberal feminist friends

were committed to electing Elizabeth Dole because she was a woman.

I couldn't understand it then, and I don't understand it now.

[SheilaT]

10. And in 2007 or thereabouts,

I kept on running into young women who were excited about the possibility of Condie Rice running for President, clearly having no understanding of her evil doings in the Bush Administration. She was a woman. And she was Black. They could not see beyond that.

[Maedhros]

11. We've reached the point where we're supporting "vanity candidates" that are entirely symbolic.[n/t]

[Enthusiast]

55. That is depressing.

[hifiguy]

65. Oy.

[SandersDem]

16. yes...

their dick.....cheney.

[jtuck004]

21. "Did Palin voters vote with their dick?" < No, they just liked to brag that they did.

But they came up short.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

53. big smile

...

[mdbl]

85. LOL

[Divernan]

37. Yes, when she ran for governor - Alaskan guys working the North Slope oil fields,

known locally as roughnecks, said of her, "Hell, I'd do her; I'll vote for her."

That's what I was told by a journalist friend I knew who worked in Juneau during her brief governorship. In Alaska it was considered a hellluva good practical joke to get enough people together to write in a buddy's name for some office on the ballots to get him elected. And Sarah always played up her hotness with her pole dancer hair do, high heeled shoes and short, tight skirts.

[Lucky Luciano]

67. Oh come on - she's not __that__ hot!

Although guys stuck in North Slope may disagree relative to someone in Manhattan.

[Divernan]

71. There's a shortage of women in The Last Frontier state!

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

74. For women seeking men in Alaska, the odds are good

but the goods are odd.

[Divernan]

81. Independent & strong folks of both sexes;it really is the last frontier!

I've traveled a lot and there's no place as breathtakingly beautiful.

A great way to see it, and comparatively inexpensive compared to flying or cruising is to take the Alaska State Ferry system along the marine highway. You start out in Northwestern Washington state (Bellingham) and go up along the coast of British Columbia. You can get off for short stays at any of the stops, and take day trips farther inland (Anchorage, Fairbanks, Denali) if you wish. Ferry stops include Port Hardy BC, Prince Rupert, Ketchikan, Wrangell, Petersburg, Sitka, Juneau, Whittier, Kodiak, Sand Point and Dutch Harbor (the last 2 in the Aleutians).

Traveling Alaska by ferry is an excellent option for independent travelers and families, and allows you to bring your car, RV, bicycle or kayak along for the ride.

The Alaska Marine Highway is Alaska’s state-owned ferry system, offering scheduled service to the Inside Passage, Prince William Sound, Kenai Peninsula, Kodiak Island and the Aleutian Islands. Ferries allow visitors to travel at their own pace and create their own itinerary. Cabins provide private, overnight accommodations, but you can also sleep in public areas on the ferries, including lounges and the outdoor solariums, in small tents or sleeping bags. Food service, movies and other entertainment are available on the ferries. It’s important to book ferry travel in advance, especially during summer months or if traveling with a vehicle.

With the money you saved traveling on the state ferry system, if you want one of the ultimate Alaskan adventures, you can fly from Anchorage to the Pribilof Islands (still part of Alaska). The islands are located approximately 300 miles west of the Alaska mainland in the North Pacific. They are famous for their natural beauty, large seal populations, and migrating birds. St. Paul Island (14 miles long) is home to the world's largest fur seal rookeries. Birders from around the world consider the Pribilof Islands a premier destination. Over 2 million sea birds nest there annually and it has the world's largest fur seal rookeries. My son spent a week there last October and raved about it.

The Pribilof Islands (formerly the Northern Fur Seal Islands) are a group of four volcanic islands off the coast of mainland Alaska, in the Bering Sea, about 200 miles (320 km) north of Unalaska and 200 miles southwest of Cape Newenham. The Siberia coast is roughly 500 miles (800 km) northwest. About 200 km2 (77 sq mi) in total area, they are mostly rocky and are covered with tundra, with a population of 572 as of the 2010 census.

[Ken Burch]

77. Most of them were too small to reach the lever.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

83. Yes, poked the chad with their needle dicks.

[antigop]

2. YES!!!!! Thank you, Susan. nt

[merrily]

4. I'd take Sarandon's advice before I'd take Hillary's.

Run up to the Iraq War: Sarandon used her own money to make an ad suggesting we should knowwhat Iraq did to us before we went to war in Iraq. I don't know how many times it ran. I saw it once.

I have referred to it many times since. An actress with no access to any info that is not publicly available knew Iraq had done nothing. Twelve year old Arab children knew Saddam and Ben Laden hated each other and would never have worked together to cause 911. Every Democrat I know knew Bush was lying and media was helping. The only Democrats who "believed Bush?" Mostly those who, at that time, had Presidential aspirations. That is some kind of arrogance. people should die because I don't want to take a chance on being embarrassed when I run for President. Heinous!

[pangaia]

28. +10,000

Well, even I knew the invasion of Iraq was a crock. No access to anything either. Just using my brain.. DUH!

Do not tell me Hillary Clinton didn't know exactly what was going on. Do not ever tell me that. She knew what was going on !!
And she was thinking (president).

[green917]

30. if she didn't know

If she didn't know, she is far too incompetent to be Potus!

[pangaia]

36. Exactly.

Either way, she looks terrible.

"Oh, I was wrong."
"Now, make me president."

FUCK YEA, you were wrong.

You voted.
You were wrong.
Tens of thousands died. Hundreds of thousands maimed.
Makes me sick.

[bvar22]

38. BUt the Village Idiot from Crawford FOOLED her!!!!

That is her story, and she's sticking with it.

She was so angry that Bush had "exceeded his authority" and made her look like an idiot that she immediately posted a full page ad in the NYTimes condemning his abuse of authority,
and scheduled all that time on the Talking Head Shows furious to let America know that Bush had lied, cheated, and made a fool of her.
.
.
.
.
OH, Wait.
None of that ever happened.
She continued to cheer the murder of innocents right up until the WAR turned unpopular,....then she "evolved".

[pangaia]

41. You had me there for a few seconds.

I thought I had missed something.
until after.

.
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.
.

[Raster]

49. I said this years ago on this forum, and I will say again:

If ANYONE in Congress had to know Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with 9/11 it would be Hilary Clinton. She was First Lady for eight years and privy to many of the nation's inner workings.

[Enthusiast]

58. +1 You nailed it an entire shit load.

[DhhD]

72. Bill Clinton Strikes Iraq in 1993 over an assassination attempt on Bush, then changes his story

story later. IMO, the Clinton's and the Bush's lead America in to war by lying and deceit.

http://www.politico.com/story/2009/06/clinton-orders-attack-on-iraq-june-26-1993-024213


Then changes his story later, in 1998, to Weapons of Mass Destruction as the cause of the 1993 missile attack.

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1998/12/16/transcripts/clinton.html


Hillary Clinton has known about the third way plan to privatize Iraqi Oil for many years before she voted to allow Bush the green light for the 1% NeoCon Plan to imperialize the Middle East, NA-North Africa and any enemy or obstacle of Saudi Arabia (Iran).

[hifiguy]

66. Point, set and match.

[Betty Karlson]

86. That was her 3.00 AM call, and boy did she screw up! eom

[tecelote]

44. +10,000 as well!

[Enthusiast]

57. + a bazillion!

[SoapBox]

5. O...M...G!

Thank you Susan.

As a male...it seems that I dare not even think such thoughts...but I do...and I've so wanted to say this..."she" being female is one thing but "she" would need to be the President of the United States of America...and that requires a whole lot more than only being female. Yes...I would absolutely love to have a female President in my lifetime...but sure as hell not "her"...adding, no, "she" can't be President just because it's "her" turn.

So I will let people like Ms. Sarandon and Women for Bernie speak to the issue.

Go Bernie!

[Stevepol]

64. Agree strongly!! But I would have voted for one woman in particular:

Elizabeth Warren. If she had decided to run I would been one of many many men doing all I cd to see her become the prez. She has a heart and sincerity that I trust.

It's not the physiology; it's the philosophy.

[cascadiance]

70. Exactly, how many people are voting for Bernie because he's potentially the first Jewish president..

... and not so much for what he stands for. Probably most more hardline supporters of someone like Netanyahu are more inclined to support Hillary Clinton or Republicans than Bernie, because they know that Bernie won't be a big anti-Palestinian supporter they might be looking for in a president. Heck we have a black Muslim congressman in Keith Ellison endorsing Bernie for president! Does that play in to "identity politics"? I think that Ellison's endorsement is extra special, as it shows how both he and Bernie are more about shared principles than a shared religious identity or race between them.

And if we make it so much about campaigning for Hillary to get the first woman in as president, or if we were to even do the same for Elizabeth Warren (this time perhaps as Bernie's running mate), and ignore someone like Warren's populist stances that are popular with people like me and many others, then that's probably more apt to turn off a group of voters that do have misogynistic leanings, but who might vote for someone if the gender identity reason for voting for them wasn't emphasized so much.

[SmittynMo]

6. I agree with Susan,

but a lot of women will be voting for her only because she is a woman.

Looking at the alternate, even though their views "may" be stronger for women overall, will not matter to this voter.

It really doesn't make sense to me, because, again, people are voting against their best interest.

[Bjornsdotter]

7. Susan is not alone...

...I agree with her and so do numerous other women as seen in the comments on Planned Parenthood's FB page.

Like Susan, Bernie, and Hans Blix many of us never bought into the WMD.

[pangaia]

29. Hans Blix knew. Hans Blix told the truth. Hans Blix is a hero !!!!!

[Hiraeth]

9. agree and it isn't the first time I have been insulted by other women. Women can sling

insults just as good as any man. I am used to it.

[LynneSin]

12. I don't either, I vote with my brain and come the general election

I will vote for the person who will most likely protect me as a woman. And I know that will be any of the Democratic Nominees whomever wins the nomination.

[Raster]

50. Any nominee the Democratic Party puts forth...

...will be head and shoulders above anyone that steps out of the GOP clown car.

[in_cog_ni_to]

13. It really is insulting. Thank you Susan!

She's a great Progressive. Bernie's lucky to have her support!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[woodsprite]

14. I can't believe how many of my female coworkers have said

"I really like what Bernie says, but I feel obligated (being a woman) to vote for the first female president."

I don't care who is running - even if it were Warren, I wouldn't be voting for her just because she's a female and would be the first female President. Vote your beliefs, not your gender. UGH!!! Makes me want to slap 'em silly. Can't do that though, since they're coworkers

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

39. They have to stick with their gender. What a great reason to vote for most powerful job on the earth

[roguevalley]

45. yeah. I agree. its no different than men always voting for men because men.

[bvar22]

43. Just remind them that..

..Sarah Palin, Mean Jean Schmidt, and Michele Bachmann have vaginas too,
and that hasn't made them any smarter or compassionate.......or MOST IMPORTANTLY,
protectors of the Rights of Women.
In fact, the above women have spent their careers HURTING women.

[stillwaiting]

56. That's a damn shame. I can't wait for a woman President, and I do not want it to be HRC. nt

[Hulk]

15. Maybe Hillary NOT becoming the "first female President" isn't a bad thing....

There are several EXCELLENT female potential candidates coming up behind this election cycle that would make excellent presidential candidates: Senator Warren, Michelle Obama...just to name a couple.

I think we have just opened the flood gates to "women in politics" in this struggling nation. I foresee women dominating the profession in the next generation. Quite frankly, they do a better job at it.

[Katashi_itto]

17. I would vote for M. Obama...Warren...!

Hell will freeze over before I vote for Hillary.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

40. The first female president will come soon enough, no need to force things.

There are 170,000,000 other women in this country - don't pick the first one you see!

[Hulk]

52. Exactly.

I would vote for Hillary if she was left standing at the end of the convention; but I believe there are better choices out there.
Maybe as VP under Sanders? She would break the glass ceiling for VP. I'm NOT going to sway my support for her simply because, or despite the fact, that she would be the first female President. Absolutely ridiculous!
She's qualified, no doubt. But we need someone who will get things done for "we the people", the 99%! We need to consider the past record of individuals running for our vote, and she doesn't have such a great record to run on, with her close ties and support to Wall Street and "big money".
Bernie appears to be the far better choice....far better. If we can educate America that being "a socialist" is not something evil, to be feared. It is a label that describes someone who is for "we the people", and not "we the money people only".
Wake up America. Can we show the world we WANT better, and not just more of the same?

[Enthusiast]

59. +1 (a whole bunch)

[marksda]

69. Integrity before Gender in 2016

I was thinking Howard Dean would make a good VP choice for Bernie, but I feel that Senator Warren has shown greater integrity by standing up against some of the most powerful bankers in Washington. So Warren is the better choice.

The fact that Warren is a woman is a great advantage in some respects, but it is secondary to her record showing integrity.

It may not have been all his fault, but many ways Obama let us down.

So I think voters value integrity more now.

[davidpdx]

80. I think that is the exact phrase we need to use when her gender is thrown in our face

"Integrity before gender in 2016." Very well put.

And welcome to DU! If you need any help don't hesitate to holler for some at either myself or any of the long-timers.

[BlandGrenade]

89. Warren would be my first choice as VP, and not to play identity politics but Ellison is my second

The combination of Bernie and senator Ellison would shatter the rich, white, Christian mold and demonstrate to the world that America intends to lead it not rule it. It would also prove once and for all that the racist, bigoted segment of our population are shrinking and powerless and break their stranglehold on our political system. I anticipate that their would be a violent backlash from the extreme right, could cost many lives, but they would be branded as terrorists and dealt with accordingly. Even a blue tarp couldn't protect them. These insurrectors truly are America's own ISIS.

[nolabels]

18. Yea, but the other side of the coin is SOME men vote with their penis

You should see them in the voting booth, it looks really odd

[Ken Burch]

82. That's why I always bring PineSol with me when I go to the polls.

[Fuddnik]

19. She obviously doesn't think with it, either.

[Human101948]

27. Why, do you think with yours?

Mine seems like an idiot.

[Fuddnik]

34. No, I'm a male.

And I don't listen to it either.

[zeemike]

35. Thread winner.

[Snotcicles]

20. Susan if by chance you see my reply. Find me on Match.com if you are available. eom

[Duval]

22. That's a very descriptive way to put it! Laughing here, but

she is right!! I don't, either!!

[DonCoquixote]

23. What happened was

This election was rigged to please the people who wanted Hillary in 2008 because she was the woman. That is why so many here bleated out "lizzie ain't runnin" so that people would still be led along the path of, "who else ya gonna vote fer?" , which of course, is the only sales pitch that makes one buy and eat the crap sandwich in ordert to avoid starving. I wish Liz ran, I wish Gillibrand ran, Napolitano, Sibelius and any number of people that were more than qualified. But Debbie made sure her firend got all the airtime, even if it let the Trumps and Cruzes get the unopposed airtime that is their lifeblood.

Now, to repeat the unoffical (though you better believe it gets enforced) loyalty pledge, I will vote for the poison that makes me sick rather than the poison that willkill me, even if that dose is named Hillary Clinton. However, HRC better hope that there are a enough of the people she has insulted and screwed over the years who are willing to do that. Debbie just insulted the Milennials by sayimg they do not understand what it is like not to have access to abortion. Let's omit the fact that many of those Milennials are living in the Red states where a lot of Blue Dog Democrats actively joined the effort to support taking away their right to choose, the same Blue Dogs that get support from Hillary and Debbie and all those woodchucks that say "we gotta support these people." Part of the reason these Milennials support Bernie is because they know that Bernie will support abortion rights, as well as access to medical care, period, something that a lot of Milennials want. He is not, like Dennis Kucinich, someone who supported abortion rights because that is the way the wind was blowing. Perhaps instead of slamming Milennials, maybe Hillary can listen less to Debbie "i already lost three election campaigns" and listen to the people that will be the legacy of the Clinton and Obama years. Does Hillary want to play for the long game, or does she just wanto to say "I wuz da first wommin president", and otherwise be noted as either mediocre or worse, bad?

[ejbr]

24. I'm African American

and was a strong Edwards supporter in 2008 even when Obama was doing well. Of course, we know how Edwards ended up, but then found myself caught between Clinton and Obama; both firsts. Now, I am backing the candidate who is closest to Edward: Sanders

[roguevalley]

46. agreed, ejbr. I cried when Edwards stepped down because there went poverty issues. I didn't know

about the rest.

[ejbr]

48. +1 n/t

[emulatorloo]

51. Felt the same way here, no one else was talking about poverty.

[Plucketeer]

62. I was in that same boat

Really disheartening when the Edwards debacle started to unwind. I truly felt betrayed. There went our voice for the poor. I feel confident that sorta thing will not happen with Sanders. Bernie knows the plight of the poor very well.

[Uncle Joe]

25. I feel the same way, I don't vote with my penis, if I thought a woman candidate for President

was the best qualified for the job and I agreed with her policy proposals, I would have no problem whatsoever supporting and voting for her over any male competition.

In this particular race I do believe Bernie is by far what the nation most desperately needs at this point in our space time continuum.


Thanks for the thread, Playinghardball.

[Kalidurga]

26. It is extremely insulting and it is how women's votes have been looked at historically

when to men are running against each other popular wisdom is women will vote for the taller candidate or the better looking one. They can't be trusted to look at actual policy proposals.

[zeemike]

31. Have to Kick and Rec this one.

Susan Sarandon Is a favorite of mine.

I fell in love with her at the midnight Rocky Horror Picture Show.
Plus she has always been a strong progressive woman...hell she would make a good president.

[Fawke Em]

60. I didn't fall in love with her since I'm a straight woman.

But I really did want to BE her.

Damnit, Janet!

[liberalnarb]

90. Where did you get that "thought police" thing in your sig line

And what does it represent?

[Fawke Em]

92. A DUer made it.

It stands for a long-time DUer who was PPRed after posting a link to a story about people writing in Bernie instead of supporting Clinton. A link! They weren't even espousing it and, since this is the primary and we don't have a nominee, yet, most of us assumed we could post ideas that may not be in support of Clinton. Apparently not.

The DUer, LOonix, was a Bernie supporter and always had a little bug in his sig line. After he was banned, some Clinton supporters started posting sig lines with fly swatters smashing the bug, so Bernie supporters started posting tons of little bugs in their sig lines in support of LOonix. This one was made by another DUer in support.

[juxtaposed]

32. I've had more than one women tell me the same thing

[Half-Century Man]

33. Competency in any given situation,

personal levels of dedication, strength of character, levels of innate aggression, ability to love, ability to be compassionate, or sense of morality; are now, nor ever have been dependent on gender, sexual preference, religious leanings, location of birth, or ancestry.

To think otherwise is actually not thinking.

[SammyWinstonJack]

42. Hillary thinks we should vote for her for that reason.

Have I mentioned I'm a woman....

[underpants]

47. This gives me an interesting idea about bringing my Repub voting district to a screeching halt

On Election Day

[Enthusiast]

54. K&R! I would love to see this receive hundreds of recommendations!

[zentrum]

61. Well said Susan.

As a woman, I feel the same way.

Reminds of the 2008 election when people accused Obama voters of only voting for him b/c he was black rather than because we knew he was the superior candidate.

[Plucketeer]

63. Love you Susan!

No matter what physical feature you use to mark your ballot!

[Stryder]

68. Wow, Susan. So well stated.

And she uses the sexiest organ of all. Her most beautiful mind.

[rhett o rick]

73. I don't think some recognize the irony of having the position that we need to fight sexism

by voting for HRC because she is a female.

[billhicks76]

75. Amen. Take That Hypocrites

There are some prolific ones here. Listen to Susan.

[TheProgressive]

76. Wit-wooo!

[Ken Burch]

78. For the record, I hope everyone will just vote with their hands.

It's far more sanitary that way.

[davidpdx]

79. K & R

Also posted it on my Facebook page.

[HockeyMom]

84. Not just women, but

YOUNG women at that who are supporting Bernie. Surprised me how many of my daughters GF's are for Bernie.

[colsohlibgal]

87. I Don't Either And Good For Her!

I am with most women who think we are way past due for a female President.

However that doen't mean we should vote strictly on that wish. It has to be the right woman, like Elizabeth Warren. Some of us much prefer a truly progressive man over a product of DSW and the old DLC.

[lonestarnot]

88. That is why I like not only her work, but I like her. Smart women rule!

[Robbins]

91. expect Clinton supporters to say

but she voted for Nader in 2000.

They can't stand it that Susan Sarandon is telling truth.

Of course she has been willing to take tough stances like bernie for what she believes in.That is something Clintons don't do.