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OffWithTheirHeads

(10,337 posts)
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 07:12 PM Jan 2016

Man are they getting desperate!

Just saw Chelsea on the t.v. Flat out lying about Bernie and healthcare. All they got is flat out lies and one gun vote a decade ago. I just lost any respect I had for the Clintons.

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Man are they getting desperate! (Original Post) OffWithTheirHeads Jan 2016 OP
OH I lost the respect long ago... SoapBox Jan 2016 #1
Now that Chelsea is part of the campaign, I can say this: thereismore Jan 2016 #3
Ouch mindwalker_i Jan 2016 #6
apparently he's worse ... he owns the hedge fund roguevalley Jan 2016 #20
I saw that Bjornsdotter Jan 2016 #2
Welcome to the party. No pun intended. nm floriduck Jan 2016 #4
The Clintons are morally bankrupt. They and their lying minions need to be shown the door. Green Forest Jan 2016 #5
Fuck yes we can. I want a revolution! OffWithTheirHeads Jan 2016 #7
Without YES WE CAN, there is no revolution. Green Forest Jan 2016 #8
It's interesting to me n2doc Jan 2016 #9
Doubt it. Chelsea has little ambition for herself beyond lording it at CF and living a .0001% entitled life. Green Forest Jan 2016 #10
What TV gig? truebluegreen Jan 2016 #11
"Chelsea Clinton Leaving Her Unbelievably Cushy Fake Job at NBC" Green Forest Jan 2016 #15
Indeed a Cushy Fake Job. truebluegreen Jan 2016 #16
She might not enjoy the spotlight, now having nullified her immunity Babel_17 Jan 2016 #17
Then why is she out stumping for her mom? n2doc Jan 2016 #12
All hands are on deck because the SS Clinton hit an iceBern on the way to the coronation. Green Forest Jan 2016 #14
"SS Clinton hit an IceBern" Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #24
Indeedy. Duppers Jan 2016 #30
I think we saw it in her attempt to start a meme the other night artislife Jan 2016 #34
No ambition, really? ljm2002 Jan 2016 #36
A Desperate Attempt To Appeal To Young Voters cantbeserious Jan 2016 #13
Because young voters don't care about issues, right? Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #23
Ain't no way to hide those liyin' eyes swilton Jan 2016 #18
I'm guessing her short political career just tanked...badly. Stilted, hesitant, didn't know libdem4life Jan 2016 #19
she's the jeb bush in her family politically. chelsea! roguevalley Jan 2016 #21
I fear so...and ill-prepared for what she was thrust into. libdem4life Jan 2016 #29
Clinton cannot be trusted - ever again. Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #22
That was already her weakness—trustworthiness. Who is making these decisions for her? Enthusiast Jan 2016 #26
Polls, focus groups, and corporately sponsored advisors. Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #31
Well they screwed up. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #32
Of course they screwed up: have you seen what Third Way did to the country? Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #33
I'm living the damage. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #35
"I just lost any respect I had for the Clintons." Me too. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #25
AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service ebayfool Jan 2016 #27
I say again ... ebayfool Jan 2016 #28

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
1. OH I lost the respect long ago...
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 07:18 PM
Jan 2016

And then "little" Chelsea marries a Hedge Fund Manager.

That speaks volumes where her loyalties would be...the State of Wall Street.

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
3. Now that Chelsea is part of the campaign, I can say this:
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 07:20 PM
Jan 2016

Clintons are literally in bed with hedge fund managers.

Bjornsdotter

(6,123 posts)
2. I saw that
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 07:20 PM
Jan 2016

Bernie supporters are very well informed and know a canard when they hear one.

On MSNBC (the show one now) they busted it as a flat out lie.

 

Green Forest

(232 posts)
5. The Clintons are morally bankrupt. They and their lying minions need to be shown the door.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 07:33 PM
Jan 2016

Just like in 2008, HOPE for CHANGE = YES WE CAN!

 

Green Forest

(232 posts)
8. Without YES WE CAN, there is no revolution.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 07:48 PM
Jan 2016

The journey begins with believing a revolution is possible.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
9. It's interesting to me
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 07:51 PM
Jan 2016

I used to give the "dynasty" talk a pass with the Clintons. Now it is very apparent that Chelsea is all in on a political career. I would guess the plan is, if her mom wins she runs for some safe district in CT or NY to build her resume before heading for bigger things after mom leaves office. Just like the Bushes. Not appealing to me at all.

 

Green Forest

(232 posts)
10. Doubt it. Chelsea has little ambition for herself beyond lording it at CF and living a .0001% entitled life.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 07:59 PM
Jan 2016

She's lousier at retail politics than her mother and has ZERO charisma. Her TV gig bombed because of her tortured attempts at relevance.

 

Green Forest

(232 posts)
15. "Chelsea Clinton Leaving Her Unbelievably Cushy Fake Job at NBC"
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 10:30 PM
Jan 2016
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/08/chelsea-clinton-leaving-her-fake-job-at-nbc.html

Kicking off the annual Labor Day Friday News Dump, Chelsea Clinton has announced, via People, that she will no longer pretend to be a reporter. The once (and future?) First Daughter has been a “special correspondent” for NBC News since 2011, when she was dubbed, following her debut, “one of the most boring people of her era.” For the occasional feel-good segment or interview with the CGI Geico gecko, Clinton earned a reported annual salary of $600,000, or approximately $26,724 for every minute she was on-air.

She switched to a month-by-month contract earlier this year, allegedly because of her pregnancy and her mother's impending run for president, not because she was being paid an insane amount of money to do almost nothing.

But she just doesn't have time to occasionally appear on TV for a few minutes anymore and is departing, amicably we're sure, “to continue focusing on my work at the Clinton Foundation and as Marc and I look forward to welcoming our first child,” Clinton told People...

A search for her recent work turns up “Oscar-Winning Actor Jeff Bridges Fights to End Childhood Hunger” and “Homework Diner Serves Up Education With a Side of Food” (a follow-up to the same story from last year), along with “Chelsea Clinton Pregnant: ‘Marc and I Are Very Excited,” “Chelsea Clinton: I’m Very Excited About First Child,” and “‘So Thrilled’: Chelsea Clinton Announces Pregnancy.”


Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
17. She might not enjoy the spotlight, now having nullified her immunity
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 10:41 PM
Jan 2016

Pretty sure the media referees will see her as being in a different class now.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
12. Then why is she out stumping for her mom?
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 08:57 PM
Jan 2016

I'm sure she has other things she could be doing, and if she needs to show support she could just show up at the end of a debate or to for hugs. I think there is more to it. I don't discount the bad performance, but since when has self-awareness ever been a characteristic of the lucky sperm (and egg) club?

 

Green Forest

(232 posts)
14. All hands are on deck because the SS Clinton hit an iceBern on the way to the coronation.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 10:24 PM
Jan 2016

You may be right, but after this fiasco, Chelsea is a joke without a punchline.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
34. I think we saw it in her attempt to start a meme the other night
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 01:39 PM
Jan 2016

She is not cut out for public speaking. (read that with emphasis in the completely wrong part of the sentence)

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
36. No ambition, really?
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 06:26 PM
Jan 2016

From last March:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jasonwells/chelsea-clinton-absolutely-open-to-running-for-office#.gqk6PQOay

Chelsea Clinton “Absolutely” Open To Running For Office

Attending the unveiling of her mother’s long awaited “No Ceilings” report measuring the progress of women’s rights over the last 20 years, Clinton told Sky News that while she had no immediate political ambitions, that could change.

“Absolutely, I’d consider it one day,” she said of running for public office.

For the time being, though, Chelsea said she supported her local, state, and national representatives.

“But if that were to change, and if at the same time I were to think that other people could be better advocates…then I’d have to ask and answer that question,” she added.
 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
23. Because young voters don't care about issues, right?
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 05:04 AM
Jan 2016

All those personality-based campaigns in the style honed and perfected in the 1990-ies, the ones that didn't attrackt young voters, that's just because our message wasn't "urban" enough, or not "cool" enough. It had nothing to do wih issues, right? Because young voters are happy to be ignored for four years right after they cast their votes.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
19. I'm guessing her short political career just tanked...badly. Stilted, hesitant, didn't know
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 12:55 AM
Jan 2016

her lines well...especially the lying ones...and was truly cringeworthy. Send her back to make money, have babies and keep her husband.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
22. Clinton cannot be trusted - ever again.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 05:02 AM
Jan 2016

And that drives down any enthousiasm she still inspires.

Which makes her a huge risk in the GE.

Which is why even when you agree more with Clinton than with Sanders, if you care about strategic advantages in the GE, you should vote for Sanders in the primaries.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
26. That was already her weakness—trustworthiness. Who is making these decisions for her?
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 09:07 AM
Jan 2016

This was a huge mistake.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
31. Polls, focus groups, and corporately sponsored advisors.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 01:11 PM
Jan 2016

That's where her decisions are made for her.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
32. Well they screwed up.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 01:13 PM
Jan 2016

Democrats overwhelmingly favor Medicare for All. And we know all the right wing half truths and lies about it already.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
25. "I just lost any respect I had for the Clintons." Me too.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 09:06 AM
Jan 2016

Well, I didn't have much left anyway. Maybe a teeny bit. But, woosh! It's gone!

ebayfool

(3,411 posts)
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