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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Wed May 1, 2019, 10:37 AM May 2019

Democratic Primary Power Rankings 5-1-20

1) Biden -He leads in the polls, major endorsements, and had a nice money haul
2) Elizabeth Warren- Started off slow but is gaining momentum with her policy laden campaign
3) Mayor Pete - He's new, fresh, and earnest
4) Bernie Sanders- Hasn't really attracted any new voters but has a loyal base
5) Kamala Harris- Most likely beneficiary if Biden falters. Acceptable to most members of the party
6) Beto- Still around but seems like the magic is gone
7) Cory Booker - Another likely beneficiary if Biden falters. Acceptable to most members of the party
8) Amy Klobuchar - Has not caught on
9) Jay Inslee - See Amy Klobuchar


At the end of the day it's all about building coalitions or maintaining them. Call it an iron rule of politics. Who are the candidates with the widest reach? Who are the candidates the supporters of other candidates like the most or hate the least? Even if he doesn't win Joe Biden has shook up the race.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Democratic Primary Power Rankings 5-1-20 (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 OP
Don't know where you got this from or whether it's your own, but I have to say KPN May 2019 #1
I made it up on the fly. DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 #2
I'm not sure Harris' Single Payer policy is acceptable to all. crazytown May 2019 #3
I suspect all the candidates will support genuine universal coverage with the emphasis on genuine. DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 #5
Employer provided health insurance has always been the stumbling block crazytown May 2019 #7
Actually Kamala Harris backtracked on Medicare For All because of the backlash DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 #9
Harris has not changed track at all. CNN town hall May 23 crazytown May 2019 #11
You do not impose it...won't work anyway. Demsrule86 May 2019 #10
BTW the Nixon Plan was more progressive than the ACA DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 #12
Biden supports a public option which will lead to universal coverage in my opinion. Demsrule86 May 2019 #8
I agree. DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 #14
"He's new, fresh, and earnest". RLG May 2019 #4
Well DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 #6
But he is the mayor of a mid-size city. RLG May 2019 #13
The South Bend Combined Statistical area has a greater population than Vermont. LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #17
Considering his name recognition and the platform he is putting forward... WeekiWater May 2019 #15
I wonder from what quarters does this line is attack is coming from. DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 #16
When I first read them I noticed one was backed by very little and the other was.... WeekiWater May 2019 #18
 

KPN

(15,643 posts)
1. Don't know where you got this from or whether it's your own, but I have to say
Wed May 1, 2019, 10:40 AM
May 2019

I can't argue with it. As of today, it's spot on ... whether I like it or not!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
2. I made it up on the fly.
Wed May 1, 2019, 10:41 AM
May 2019

I used to do it for the NBA but I am not as an avid watcher as I once was.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
3. I'm not sure Harris' Single Payer policy is acceptable to all.
Wed May 1, 2019, 10:51 AM
May 2019

It’s more or less the same as Bernie’s - A four year transition abolishing Employer provided health insurance.

Elizabeth Warren is open to a buy in through the ACA. Harris is not. The ACA would be repealed.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
5. I suspect all the candidates will support genuine universal coverage with the emphasis on genuine.
Wed May 1, 2019, 10:56 AM
May 2019

I don't see different ways of getting there as deal killers for most Democrats.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
7. Employer provided health insurance has always been the stumbling block
Wed May 1, 2019, 11:07 AM
May 2019

going back to Ted Kennedy’s negotiations with Nixon.

It killed the Clinton’s Administration 1994 proposal, and it’s not a question of mechanics, but ideology.

Do you phase out Employer provided health insurance by providing a better public alternative and allowing people to chose it - Medicare for all who want it, - or do you impose it, Medicare, whether you want it or hate it.

Kamala supports the latter and that is not acceptable to the party as a whole.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
9. Actually Kamala Harris backtracked on Medicare For All because of the backlash
Wed May 1, 2019, 11:10 AM
May 2019

Lots of nations have genuine universal coverage without single payer.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
11. Harris has not changed track at all. CNN town hall May 23
Wed May 1, 2019, 11:28 AM
May 2019

Harris would allow supplemental private insurance - ie for items NOT covered by Medicare. She was asked : ‘How do you respond to the 74 percent of Americans who wish to have the option to keep their private insurers?’ and dodged it:

Transcript
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1904/22/se.02.html

QUESTION: Hi, good evening, Senator Harris. My name is Ryan, and I'm a constituent of yours from Orange County, California. And at a January town hall, when asked about your approach to universal health care, you acknowledged that you would support eliminating private insurers in favor of a single-payer health insurance program. How do you respond to the 74 percent of Americans who wish to have the option to keep their private insurers?

HARRIS: Well, under -- well, I support Medicare for all. And I support it for a number of reasons. That include the fact that there are a lot of people in our country who simply do not have access to health care because they cannot afford it. And that's unconscionable, and I actually believe it's a moral issue. And it is a sign of whether or not we are going to be a civil society to determine, are people going to have access to health care simply because they can afford it, when, in fact, that should be a right and not a privilege of the few who can afford it? That is the value with which I bring to this discussion.

I will also say this. On the issue of this whole dynamic about access to private insurance, of course, private insurance, you can get supplemental insurance and all of that. But let's not be duped by a messaging campaign that has been waged for years by the insurance companies to have you into believing that you need to defend them. You need to defend yourself.

You know what? Ninety-one percent of the doctors are in Medicare. So the idea and the suggestion they're trying to make to you is really a false one. You will be able to have your doctor. Ninety-one percent of them are in the Medicare system. (Snip)

LEMON: So the bill that you co-sponsored, it would effectively eliminate private insurance. Is there room for private insurance in a...

HARRIS: Of course there is. For supplemental insurance, absolutely.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
10. You do not impose it...won't work anyway.
Wed May 1, 2019, 11:11 AM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
12. BTW the Nixon Plan was more progressive than the ACA
Wed May 1, 2019, 11:30 AM
May 2019

Employers would be forced to provide health care. For everybody else, including Medicare recipients, there would be a public option. By putting Medicaid beneficiaries with Medicare beneficiaries in the same group you would ensure better health care for the former and the same level of health care as the latter.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
8. Biden supports a public option which will lead to universal coverage in my opinion.
Wed May 1, 2019, 11:10 AM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

RLG

(314 posts)
4. "He's new, fresh, and earnest".
Wed May 1, 2019, 10:54 AM
May 2019

He's also the mayor of a city of 100,000 who has a few issues with the African American community.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
6. Well
Wed May 1, 2019, 11:00 AM
May 2019

Being new, fresh, and earnest and being the "mayor of a city of 100,000 who has a few issues with the African American community" are not mutually exclusive.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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RLG

(314 posts)
13. But he is the mayor of a mid-size city.
Wed May 1, 2019, 11:37 AM
May 2019

That's a whole lot of chutzpah to think one can be President of the United States because of this.

Say what you want, but at least Bernie Sanders went from being mayor of a small city to a U.S. Representative to a U.S. Senator.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
17. The South Bend Combined Statistical area has a greater population than Vermont.
Wed May 1, 2019, 02:56 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
15. Considering his name recognition and the platform he is putting forward...
Wed May 1, 2019, 01:46 PM
May 2019

I think it is too early to say he is having issues with the AA community. If you have bought into the to highly speculative and one sided pieces on him about his housing plan and the police chief then it is what it is.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
16. I wonder from what quarters does this line is attack is coming from.
Wed May 1, 2019, 02:04 PM
May 2019

If you have bought into the to highly speculative and one sided pieces on him about his housing plan and the police chief then it is what it is

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
18. When I first read them I noticed one was backed by very little and the other was....
Wed May 1, 2019, 04:03 PM
May 2019

Almost complete speculation. I read additional articles and information to find that the housing issue is actually very positive today and it appears the main harm done when initiated was to investors who were bringing down neighborhoods by not doing any upkeep. The code enforcement was a bit aggressive but that is often the main power of a mayor. They ended up increasing the money available to low income residents to do repairs. With respect to the police chief, you find out that he was going on recommendations by the FBI and did as little as possible when it came to firing people. It's a bit funny that not a person here has heard about the white person that was fired at the same time as the police chief in the same matter. Then there are the tapes. Reading further into that and you find he is simply doing what any mayor would do. Protecting the city from law suits that will come about from what are ill gotten recordings.

People need to read. I'll be one of the first to say one of our candidates has done something wrong. I can't stand maligning them for good works because all a person reads is an overzealous article or two full of omissions or deception.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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