Hillary said tonight what many of us have been saying here for a long time

[lunamagica]

It doesn't matter if we nominate the most charismatic, best prepared, most perfect candidate ever...as long as the Russian interference isn't dealt with, they will get away with stealing the election again.

She added that if anything, the Russians are now better prepared to interfere in 2020. This is the most important issue and the biggest obstacle we're facing. I believe all the candidate should join forces to deal with this problem, or else, 2020 will be a loss to us.

[Gothmog]

1. From Hillary's interview

Link to tweet

[dalton99a]

24. +1

[NYMinute]

26. Hillary is always astute

She would have made a great president.

[olegramps]

29. The path back to Democratic rule is elimination of the electorial college.

The surest path is state laws that's mandate the effective destruction of the abuse by awarding the state's electoral votes to the candidate who wins the most votes. This is concept is quickly gaining momentum and I urge concerned citizens to speak out in very forum to make this a reality.

[maddiemom]

30. Yes, even after all the Russian and other meddling...

Hillary still got nearly three million more popular votes. We can thank the electoral college system for that... and most of the states with the most electoral votes were lost by suspiciously narrow margins. If the 2000 election results were reversed, Republicans would never have accepted it. The benefit of that for the Democrats would have been popular votes deciding 2016.

[onit2day]

45. Loved her comparison of a Dem asking China to hack IRS for Trump's tax returns

Her comparison puts it all in a clear light.

[rogue emissary]

2. Unfortunately, a few of our candidates are ignoring this fact while they chase racist Trump voters.

[lunamagica]

11. They need to wake up and see what's going on

[Demsrule86]

20. I have heard no candidate bring this up actually. But a candidate can do nothing as elections are

State matters. There is no way to change this. We have to be vigilant and do the best we can.

[rogue emissary]

35. Harris has talked about and reintroduced legislation to set security standards.

Just talking about can help keep the media and state officials focused on the issue.

[Demsrule86]

36. Give me a method how this can be accomplished in50 states?

[rogue emissary]

38. S.2593 - Secure Elections Act

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/2593/text?r=6

Introduced in Senate (03/22/2018)
Secure Elections Act

This bill gives the Department of Homeland Security primary responsibility within the federal government for sharing information about election cybersecurity incidents, threats, and vulnerabilities with federal entities and election agencies.

The Election Assistance Commission (EAC) shall establish an advisory panel of independent experts to develop guidelines on election cybersecurity, including standards for procuring, maintaining, testing, auditing, operating, and updating election systems.

The EAC shall award election system cybersecurity and modernization grants to states and election agencies to implement the advisory panel's guidelines. Grants shall be awarded to: (1) remediate vulnerabilities identified by a cybersecurity evaluation, (2) replace electronic voting systems that are not optical scanners that read paper ballots, and (3) reimburse states for statistical audits of ballots in close federal elections.

It stalled because of Mitch, but it was bipartisan legislation.

[onit2day]

46. Bernie has been harping for paper ballots so elections have a paper trail for years

[delisen]

53. Itwould be great if he speaks out against Russian interference in 2020

today.

[Grasswire2]

3. We must DEMAND paper ballots, hand counted.

It's insane to frick around with machines that can be hacked or tampered. Just insane.

PAPER BALLOTS HAND COUNTED LOCALLY are the gold standard for election integrity.

[lunamagica]

8. I agree, we need paper ballots!

[Demsrule86]

19. I would love paper ballots but no mechanism to do this.

[not_the_one]

32. sure there is

the way they used to do it.

Every precinct provides multiple counters and multiple monitors from both parties. Throw in some media to chaperone. Make sure every ballot is safe and secure.

Then use AS LONG AS IT TAKES to count the votes accurately. Hell, if it takes a month, so be it.

Then, to top it off, if the EC doesn't support the popular vote, we citizens, en masse, refuse to accept the result, no matter the party who benefits.

We CAN bring this country to a halt, if needed.

[Demsrule86]

33. You can't force states to do this.

[Demsrule86]

18. There is no way to do this.

[bearsfootball516]

21. Exactly.

It would be more secure, of course. But there’s no way in hell 50 states are going to agree to get rid of electronic voting machines that can count every ballot in a second, for handcounted paper ballots. It just not going to happen, no matter how many people ask for it.

[Demsrule86]

22. We would be better off working on things we can control. And we have Democratic

governors in Michigan and wisconsin. We need more observers In rural PA where old fashioned cheating went on. The numbers are very suspect. We need to win with a good margin. Close elections are easy to steal.

[bearsfootball516]

23. I don't know where I fall on that.

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Conor Lamb won a special election last year in rural Pennselvania. Over 200,000 people voted and he won by like, 400 votes. It literally as close as it could get. If Republicans were going to steal an election, that would have been the perfect one.

Same when Doug Jones won in Alabama. That election was tight as nails and the consequences were enormous because it was a Senate seat in a deep red state. If Republicans were going to steal an incredibly tight election, there's no reason they wouldn't have done it there.

[Demsrule86]

34. I think paper ballots would help...although you can still steal an election.

But there is no way to force states to use paper ballots.

[TheFarseer]

60. But you could have

Scantron fill in the bubble ballots that can be counted quickly but still have a paper record.

[onit2day]

47. I want congress to make voting mandatory like they do in Australia where 98% vote

[Mr.Bill]

61. That would bring us is more poorly informed voters.

Voting is a right, not a duty. If people are too lazy to care to be informed and vote, that's fine with me.

[FirstLight]

4. It's chilling...

we are literally watching a slow motion coup. (yes, I used Trump's word because he knows and HIM saying it is a dead giveaway)

I feel like I am in the Pre-Oceana days of 1984.or the Pre-Chancellor days of V for Vendetta..it's about to hit the fan. I worry about the rule of law and our safety. Here my daughter is all geared up to get into public service and she may not have a country to do it in.

[lunamagica]

9. It's truly frightening. They got away with it, and they are getting ready to do it again

[Cha]

5. Thank YOu, Hillary! So glad

she's talking about this!!

Gracias, Luna!

[lunamagica]

6. Yes, Cha, I'm so happy she addressed this issue, which is a real threat, but so many are ignoring!

[Cha]

10. Ignoring it at our

peril!

[lunamagica]

13. But so many are doing just that, Cha! Posts saying, "So and so is the BEST candidate and will will

wipe the floor with trump" Don't they see that it's not enough amd we aew being set up again?

[Cha]

14. Hopefully they will

take heed at what Hillary said on Rachel's last night!

[BigmanPigman]

7. This is so damn depressing and frustrating!

[lunamagica]

12. It truly is...every time I read a post sayng "so and so is going to wipe the floor wit trump" I want

to scream! How can anyone be sl clueless?

[Demsrule86]

17. Me too. This will be the fight of our lives. This is the most important election in our lifetimes,

This will be a tough election. I see no way forward unless we rebuild the blue wall. People say all of our candidates can beat Trump. That is just not true.

[Cha]

15. Bookmarking!

[Demsrule86]

16. So we should just give Up? Sorry I am not willing to do that. We have no way to fix the

the Russian attacks ...but perhaps by shining a light on it , we can still win.

[lunamagica]

39. Did I say that? I suggested that all the candidates join forces to fight it

[Demsrule86]

40. Well now that is a good idea...we need to keep track of absentee ballots ...we call people who ask

for them if they are not turned in(Democrats of course). So we don't have the shit that happened in Carolina where ballots were changed and, destroyed...lost. We need lots of observers even in the small towns...especially PA. We need to call our voters and remind them to check the status of their registration...see if they need help with ID's...and offer rides as well. What else can you add? The more ideas the better.

[amywalk]

25. Plus, the Republicans have been ordering new voting machines outfitted with software allowing

remote changing of voter tallies. They’ve already had a lot of it in place since the Bush v Gore days. They definitely did not win Georgia and Florida in 2018 and (Pennsylvania, Michigan, Ohio in 2016)but they changed it just enough that they win, but it doesn’t trigger an automatic recount. And don’t forget Ivanka’s Chinese patents on voting machines. This should be enough to have us all shaking in our boots.

[bearsfootball516]

27. Have you considered that maybe, we just don't win every single election every time?

[ecstatic]

28. Exactly. If the election is fair and non hacked,

we win in a landslide, regardless of who our nominee is. The only way trump gets a 2nd term is through cheating. Period.

[oasis]

31. HRC is mighty right in her assessment. nt

[robbedvoter]

37. yet the B boyz assume we need to court Trumpies because EC

(Hllary didn't go to Wisconsin) turning a blind eye to the election steal.

[Sparkly]

41. She is spot on, as usual.

[coti]

42. Might be good to have a candidate with hacking familiarity then, someone who knows skilled people nt

[DesertRat]

43. k&r

[Chin music]

44. When President Clinton speaks,...

I listen.

[WiffenPoof]

48. Of course...

..... the implication is that she lost due in part to the Russian interference. I for one agree with her.

[NurseJackie]

49. Any candidate who has ever attacked, smeared or denigrated the Democratic party should withdraw now.

Any candidate who has ever attacked, smeared or denigrated the Democratic party should withdraw now. Anyone who's droned on and on and on and on about how "corrupt" and "ideologically bankrupt" the Democrats are is really NOT in a very strong (or believable) position to say "Hey, vote for Democrats! (Never mind all those other things I've been saying.)" He (or she) is not the one for me.

The candidate that I support will be one that's a loyal and stalwart support of Democrats and the Democratic party. That's someone who has character and integrity... and those traits are very important to me.

[sheshe2]

63. + infinity.

[Stuart G]

50. k and r..nt

[Kurt V.]

51. there many tools in the box to battle this. one of those tools is voter turn out.

a charismatic, well prepared candidate IS one of tools to accomplish that

[INdemo]

52. If they steal another one our Democracy is toast

We need to go back to paper ballots

[NastyRiffraff]

54. Hillary is right, as usual

I wish some Republicans would show leadership, not to mention patriotism, and step up to defend the country, but I'm afraid it's up to the Democrats, and the people. We all need to make our voices heard, no matter which primary candidate we support. This is an emergency. Although we can and should strongly support a primary candidate, the bickering must stop when it comes to our national security, which is what the Russian interference involves. And it should go without saying that once we have a nominee, she or he must have our full support to the point of being willing to do the hard work.

[Honeycombe8]

55. I agree. I don't know that the Dems can do anything about it...except to win big.

We're not in control. But I don't know what could be done.

Couldn't intel disrupt them?

FB & Twitter are going after trolls, but that isn't 100%, and it doesn't address election hacking.

[lunamagica]

59. Perhaps scream about Russian interference from the rooftops until the MSM takes notice?

[Hortensis]

56. We must fight Russia, yes, but disagree with the absolute

terms this is being restated in. Neither Russia nor the Republicans have a guaranteed means of stealing our next election. A majority of Americans are against them. If we vote even somewhat more of our strength they can't stop us.

Nancy Pelosi, for another voice, is concerned that we not just win but win by such a large margin of votes that it robs credibility of any accusation that Democrats stole the election.

[lunamagica]

57. And I hope that happens, Hortensis. But I don;pt think that ignoring the elephant in the room

like all candidates and Democrats in general seem to be doing, is the way to go.

[Hortensis]

58. No one's ignoring who's

supposed to be dealing with it — except for what Trump and RepubCo and what they can stop. But that’s not even everyone in government. And no competent campaign is not aware and planning.

Let’s face it, WE are by far the most ignorant and clueless, and passive because our role is huge but doesn’t come for well over 500 days still. And that will be very simple. Fortunately, we don’t have to know anything more than we do to play our part.

[MH1]

62. THIS - "I believe all the candidate should join forces to deal with this problem"

Any candidate who isn't ready to join with the others to get ONE of them through, is off my list.