Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumBernie Sanders personally spearheaded campaign strategy to take on Joe Biden
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/05/02/politics/bernie-sanders-joe-biden-2020/index.htmlBy Ryan Nobles and Gregory Krieg, CNN
Updated at 3:59 PM ET, Thu May 2, 2019
(CNN) The decision by Bernie Sanders' campaign to immediately engage with Joe Biden -- in a series of public remarks, tweets and emails to supporters -- came from the top, campaign manager Faiz Shakir told CNN on Thursday.
"This was driven by Sen. Sanders himself," Shakir said in an interview. "He said, 'Why the heck should I wait to draw contrast between the two of us? That is what a primary is all about.'"
Since Biden entered the presidential primary last week, Sanders has repeatedly sought to highlight where he and the former vice president have split on big-ticket policy questions -- especially those centered on trade and other economic issues. Both candidates, despite their opposing records and differing views, are appealing now to the same base of voters: working class Democrats and independents in the Midwestern states President Donald Trump nearly swept in 2016.
Shakir conceded that Biden is the frontrunner -- polls have shown him building on his early lead since joining the contest last week -- and said Sanders and the campaign expected Biden to come out of the gates strong. But they were also determined to define Biden early on by shining a spotlight on the pieces of Biden's record that, though perhaps standard for Democrats at the time, might run against the party's more recent progressive shift.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
msongs
(67,405 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)General...yes. But he won't win. This sort of behavior will doom his primary campaign...good!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BannonsLiver
(16,370 posts)When Bernie loses again he wont have anyone but himself to blame. There wont be any finger pointing, like last time.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)Sanders always thinks bashing Democrats is a winning strategy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Doitnow
(1,103 posts)bashing. Isn't a primary a discussion of differences between candidates? How else is the public to know who to vote for? Wouldn't you want to know how they differ?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)besides policy differences. Some were outright smears. Now that we know the orders came from Sanders, it makes the picture clear.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,196 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LisaM
(27,808 posts)I am undecided, but if I had to hang out with one of the two of them, I think I'd go have wine and canapes with Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,196 posts)canapés!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LisaM
(27,808 posts)I'm going to laugh all night about this one. Canapés!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ridiculousness of it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Indygram
(2,113 posts)*semi-evil grin*
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LisaM
(27,808 posts)An artisanal cheese platter, maybe some elegant French finger food...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Indygram
(2,113 posts)Store brand saltines and potted meat, lol.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
susanna
(5,231 posts)and it would be an absolutely mail-worthy canape
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,176 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Grey Poupon is next.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,196 posts)a good PR firm stat!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
susanna
(5,231 posts)Because that tells us peasant voters everything about candidate policy. Those damn appetizers have foiled us again!
On edit: I originally said, '"OH SHIT" not canapes!' But I then realized people would freak out about it.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
funnier! Curses foiled again!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
susanna
(5,231 posts)but I am not very good at it, as I have made abundantly clear in the past. I rather like my potty mouth, it seems to suit me.
Thank you much, Cha!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,196 posts)feel bad about mine, then. I can be both. lol
Mahalo nui loa, susanna~
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
nolabear
(41,960 posts)Appetizers are for corporatist elites! We common folk eat cans o peas! And we like em!
As my people say, I think his cheese has slipped off his cracker.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,196 posts)people say!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)Canapes bad? Who knew?
I know I'm late to this thread, but that is just too funny. Or would be if it didn't show Bernie's obsession to bash Democrats every chance he gets.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,196 posts)Ikr.. "obsession"!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)so, apparently, different standards apply.
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
njhoneybadger
(3,910 posts)I always get the feeling that he hates the Democratic Party.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Doitnow
(1,103 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)If he made the general I would vote for him of course but he won't.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)while he runs as a pretend Democrat. He'll revert back to I again after the primaries. He's happy to use the Democratic party when it suits him, and just as happy to bash it while doing it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)They are promoting his strategy. From continuing to bring up Clinton to the attacks on the Democratic Party. They are coming from the top.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)Its really gotten old.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)the pledge he signed.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dogman
(6,073 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Indygram
(2,113 posts)Make the primary constructive. Ill respect the other candidates and make the primary election about inspiring voters with my vision for the future.
Rally behind the winner. Ill support the ultimate Democratic nominee, whoever it is period. No Monday morning quarterbacking. No third-party threats. Immediately after theres a nominee, Ill endorse.
Do the work to beat Trump. I will do everything in my power to make the Democratic Nominee the next President of the United States. As soon as there is a nominee, I will put myself at the disposal of the campaign.
I have underlined the violation.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/respect
Constructive means to only criticize in a RESPECTFUL and productive way.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
JI7
(89,248 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
crazytown
(7,277 posts)He tried to talk her into staying out.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
JI7
(89,248 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
crazytown
(7,277 posts)like Senator Sanders, is never afraid to say who the opponent of change are: The wealthy and their puppets. The difference between the two is that Warren does not see the Democratic Party as an obstacle, but an ally.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
highplainsdem
(48,975 posts)year they thought they'd still vote for Sanders in the primary, as they did in 2016.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,762 posts)He doesnt seem to be getting the message
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,196 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)and if Beto gets going, a triple whammy.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mcar
(42,307 posts)in the polls. We have so many good Democratic candidates, with so many great policies, it's hard to compete.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,196 posts)the opposite.. wonder why that is? Hmmm?
mcar
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Otto Lidenbrock
(581 posts)....Bernie would get a lot more goodwill.
The red rose brigade see people with a different point of view almost as if they're evil monsters. Many of them are so mean spirited.
I will vote for Bernie if he is the democratic nominee. There's no doubt in my mind about that. How many of them will vote for another candidate though?
It's not about being an ideologue. Elections have consequences. A democratic president no matter whether he/she is "neoliberal" will be better for progressives because at the least he or she will appoint liberal judges that will shape the rule of law for years to come.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Doitnow
(1,103 posts)nominated. I wish more of the candidates would sign on to state the same. And I still want to hear how they all feel about the issues because, as far as I can tell, Bernie represents what what most Americans want. That's middle America, folks, not a crazy far left, as some would like to characterize it.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)Sanders supporters have been having to deal with an ongoing assault ever since he dared to go against the "inevitable" Hillary Clinton in the last primaries. And it doubled after she "lost". As if just doing what a contending candidate should do.....explain the differences in policy and why theirs is better than the others, or where they see the other as not being adequate.....is some evil unforgivable attack. and now against Biden! He even used the word "canopies" against him! Unforgivable!
And Biden represents better than anyone else what Sanders sees as the opposite of what he wants to achieve for Americans, and as the stagnation of the party moving progressively forward. The paralysis in beholding the party to the whims of the corporate classes over the economy and even public policy. He represents the old status quo guard no matter how personable he is. Not FDR status quo, third way status quo.
Rightly so, Sanders sees him as his greatest threat. Why shouldn't he clearly position himself now. At least he's honest about where his priorities lie.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BannonsLiver
(16,370 posts)Sanders supporters have been having to deal with an ongoing assault ever since he dared to go against the "inevitable" Hillary Clinton in the last primaries
Oh FFS...
Yeah, youre really undecided.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
aikoaiko
(34,169 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,176 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,196 posts)Nails It!
Thanks, Goth
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
watoos
(7,142 posts)Is the purpose to suppress the vote in the general?
If Biden cant handle Bernie wait until the Trump goons hit him.
Bernie did release his taxes right? How many useless threads were there here over that?
Bernie was the 1st one to sign the indivisible pledge to immediately throw his support behind whoever our nominee is.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,196 posts)Democratic Party..
Link to tweet
Do you ever have anything to say about that.. or just when BS gets called out?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Me.
(35,454 posts)Wonder if HRC is watching
aloha and happy Merrie Monarch to you
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,196 posts)Mahalo for the Merrie Monarch Good Wishes, Me!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(42,307 posts)How does that work, exactly?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)He is sinking fast.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
kcr
(15,315 posts)His supporters would be responding with huge giant, flashing canape gifs before sticking them in their sig line.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TomSlick
(11,098 posts)I tend to agree with most of Sen. Sander's position. (Extending voting rights to incarcerated felons being the only example that comes to mind.) I still haven't decided who to support in the primary but attacking other Democrats will not get any candidate my vote.
Democrats should only compare their positions to Trump's.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)(apologies to each candidates supporters) but its what's best for America. imo
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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Me.
(35,454 posts)Bashing trump? No..wait..again..he mainly does it to Dems
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(42,307 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Irishxs
(622 posts)it to some Bernie workers one time and they exploded. I ended up saying Were all tired. Thats probably it. But I wonder.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)All day long.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)to be a nasty war on the way to the convention. I just hope that the time we have between the end of that convention and Election Day is enough to bind the wounds that will surely be opened.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
melman
(7,681 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
RandySF
(58,799 posts)Let Warren pass you by while you drive up your own negatives.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
KitSileya
(4,035 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Irishxs
(622 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
nolabear
(41,960 posts)He is living rent free in more peoples heads Than anyone except Hillary than Ive ever seen!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Biden represents the sane, quiet professional excellence of the Obama era and Sanders has never even tried to hide his utter contempt of Obama.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)and many RW sources picked up on it, too.
Not a good look.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)So this is unsurprising.
And yet he "didn't know" about a $30,000 settlement paid out by his campaign for harassment, as has been recently revealed, and one of the staffers that was involved in the harrasment reports got a sterling enough recommendation to get a job as chief of staff for congressman Chuy Garcia in January, so what he does and doesn't know about his campaign isn't really clear.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,187 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PDittie
(8,322 posts)Glad this wasn't something his "surrogates" could be entirely "blamed" for.
(Please try to keep in mind that facts are NOT attacks)
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)We need better decisions from our candidates.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,176 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)disturbing examples. It's a fallacious argument, but it's true.
Biden voted against busing in the early '70s? Sanders was a deadbeat dad at the time. Biden voted to authorize war? Sanders lauded communist dictators. Biden made women uncomfortable? Sanders ran a campaign with a predatory culture of sexual harassment.
There are tons of examples. Yes, Bernie can attack Joe, but only by making himself look worse.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,196 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden