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MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
Fri May 3, 2019, 09:45 AM May 2019

Hey Kids! I know! Let's have a scavenger hunt game!

We'll call it: "GOTCHA!"

Here's the way you play the game. See if you can find video any of the Democratic candidates saying something that seems wrong or bad to you. Context doesn't matter. When it was said doesn't matter, so look way back, if you wish. Then, post it here in this thread as a way of supporting some other candidate.

Doesn't that sound like fun? Don't you want to participate? Don't you just want to go searching for something like that?

Well, join in the fun! Everyone can play!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Hey Kids! I know! Let's have a scavenger hunt game! (Original Post) MineralMan May 2019 OP
I've found it! crazytown May 2019 #1
We have so many to do that for us.. LakeArenal May 2019 #2
Oh I am not playing that game. emulatorloo May 2019 #3
I can't understand why vetting is so unpopular all of a sudden melman May 2019 #4
I would say it's like posting another OP about Anita Hill: crazytown May 2019 #5
Vetting, eh? MineralMan May 2019 #6
Agreed. The time for this kind of stuff to come out is now, not August 2020. WhiskeyGrinder May 2019 #7
Of course, by August of 2020, our nominee will already be chosen, right? MineralMan May 2019 #9
Some people see it as burning -- usually when their ox is being gored, to mix metaphors. WhiskeyGrinder May 2019 #11
Who has an ox? We all use tractors now. MineralMan May 2019 #12
None better than the one in Bemidji, for sure. WhiskeyGrinder May 2019 #14
So you are on board now? MrsCoffee May 2019 #8
Only sometimes, see. Only sometimes. MineralMan May 2019 #10
lol melman May 2019 #13
BOOM! (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #22
Unless it's a fact check on a specific politician that gets very prickly ehrnst May 2019 #21
Yeah wonder why they can't find their own candidate doing something awesome treestar May 2019 #15
Oh, they can, and do, but it just doesn't seem to be enough sometimes. MineralMan May 2019 #16
Purity Control! Purity Control! Can we all dress up as Purity Control? Baclava May 2019 #17
Of course! That garb will be de rigueur at the awards ceremony. MineralMan May 2019 #19
All of them have something I could pick at. Every single one of them. They will all have done The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #18
Yes, of course. MineralMan May 2019 #20
it's really backfiring now NJCher May 2019 #23
 

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
2. We have so many to do that for us..
Fri May 3, 2019, 09:51 AM
May 2019

Continually, everyday, every night, every thread.

Sorta like being a collection agency. Who does that? How do you sleep at night?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emulatorloo

(44,120 posts)
3. Oh I am not playing that game.
Fri May 3, 2019, 09:57 AM
May 2019

Good post mm.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

melman

(7,681 posts)
4. I can't understand why vetting is so unpopular all of a sudden
Fri May 3, 2019, 10:09 AM
May 2019

Seems like just yesterday it was all the rage.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
5. I would say it's like posting another OP about Anita Hill:
Fri May 3, 2019, 10:13 AM
May 2019

a case of diminishing returns.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
6. Vetting, eh?
Fri May 3, 2019, 10:13 AM
May 2019

Cool. C'mon, join in and play. Find some dirt for us.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,332 posts)
7. Agreed. The time for this kind of stuff to come out is now, not August 2020.
Fri May 3, 2019, 10:20 AM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
9. Of course, by August of 2020, our nominee will already be chosen, right?
Fri May 3, 2019, 10:41 AM
May 2019

It's important that people find anything they can to burn candidates they don't support early on, right? Before the nomination and even before there are any primary votes, right? Is that the goal?

I mean, especially the currently leading candidate when you support one that's not doing as well. Gotta bring the leader down. So find whatever you can that will hurt the leader, so your candidate can do better. Is that how it works?

Feh! This effort is transparent, ugly, and misdirected.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,332 posts)
11. Some people see it as burning -- usually when their ox is being gored, to mix metaphors.
Fri May 3, 2019, 10:51 AM
May 2019

I see it as stress-testing or inoculating, myself. Part of it is because I don't love any of the candidates; each of them has their own weak spots I find deal-breakers in a primary, and learning more about them is important to me, even if it "brings them down," because I want to be prepared to talk about it during the general.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
12. Who has an ox? We all use tractors now.
Fri May 3, 2019, 10:53 AM
May 2019

Still, we do have lots of statues of Babe the Blue Ox here in Minnesota, but I haven't seen a live ox for a very long time.

I'm not too worried about any oxen getting gored, frankly.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,332 posts)
14. None better than the one in Bemidji, for sure.
Fri May 3, 2019, 11:05 AM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
8. So you are on board now?
Fri May 3, 2019, 10:41 AM
May 2019

Good to know.

Buckle up.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
10. Only sometimes, see. Only sometimes.
Fri May 3, 2019, 10:43 AM
May 2019

And only for, you know, certain candidates who are leading in the polls and blocking someone else's path to the nomination. Then, bring out the dirt.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
21. Unless it's a fact check on a specific politician that gets very prickly
Sat May 4, 2019, 01:33 PM
May 2019

if someone fact checks him instead of simply acting as a stenographer.

Then it's HIT PIECE!! HATERS!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

treestar

(82,383 posts)
15. Yeah wonder why they can't find their own candidate doing something awesome
Fri May 3, 2019, 11:06 AM
May 2019

instead.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
16. Oh, they can, and do, but it just doesn't seem to be enough sometimes.
Fri May 3, 2019, 11:10 AM
May 2019

So, they try to cut down the other candidates, especially the one who is leading and is ahead of theirs.

Oldest trick in the book, but it never really works out very well in the end. Sometimes it ends up with a horrible, awful, terrible conclusions that hurts everyone. But, no matter...if there's dirt, get it out there, irrelevant or not.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
17. Purity Control! Purity Control! Can we all dress up as Purity Control?
Fri May 3, 2019, 11:14 AM
May 2019

Oh this gonna be sooooo much fun. I'll bring the cake and punch

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
19. Of course! That garb will be de rigueur at the awards ceremony.
Fri May 3, 2019, 11:36 AM
May 2019

If you're an entrant, you'll receive a copy of our dress code automatically.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
18. All of them have something I could pick at. Every single one of them. They will all have done
Fri May 3, 2019, 11:32 AM
May 2019

or said something I disagree with or disapprove of. If they've been in politics for a long time they probably will have voted for legislation I opposed or against legislation I supported, possibly for the benefit of a constituency that does not exist in my state. They might have made friends with or least cooperated with or said something nice about, somebody I don't like. Maybe they have a disreputable family member. Maybe they have money because their family owned a business I disapprove of. Maybe they invested in a business I disapprove of. Maybe they made a speech to some people I disapprove of. Maybe they hugged somebody. Maybe they yelled at an employee. Maybe they wore a tan suit. Maybe they have a lot of parking tickets or didn't return library books on time. Will I reject any candidate because somebody dredged up an instance of such malfeasance and posted it on an internet message board? Oh, hell, no.

In fact, I will view the commission of some such venial sin - especially if reported breathlessly on DU by a supporter of someone else (or by a Russian troll) - as having been committed in the ordinary course of business as a politician. I will evaluate whether the perp is worthy or unworthy of my support on the basis of the totality of their career, not because they did this thing this one time some years ago and OMG I have to hate them now.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
20. Yes, of course.
Fri May 3, 2019, 11:38 AM
May 2019

Often, it's not the candidates themselves who do that sort of thing. They know that there are things they'd rather not come out about them, too. Typically, it is enthusiastic, if misguided, supporters who think dishing the dirt is a good idea.

It's not, of course, and often backfires spectacularly.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NJCher

(35,662 posts)
23. it's really backfiring now
Sun May 5, 2019, 05:54 AM
May 2019

Big time. The Biden spoof site has way more hits than Biden's official site. In fact, last I heard Biden's official site didn't even show on the first three pages of a Google search. Now that's what I call a backfire!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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