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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
Mon May 6, 2019, 09:40 AM May 2019

Donations to Sanders cut in half after Biden entry, asks donors to 'dig a little deeper'

Sen. Bernie Sanders’ presidential campaign has seen a huge drop in donations since former Vice President Joe Biden entered the race, and he’s begging donors to “dig a little deeper.”

In a long email promising to undo President Trump’s actions if elected, the Sanders Campaign Manager Faiz Shakir revealed that the average donation to the Vermont senator’s operation has been cut in half.

“I’m about to ask you to make a contribution, and I hope that it is clear why. But first, I want to be up front with you that our average contribution — which used to be $27 — has been almost half that in the last couple weeks. It’s OK for now, but we would really like to see if you can dig a little deeper if you’re able to,” he wrote.

The email seeks a donation of $3, though it also includes amounts of $27-$1,000 on the donor page.
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In his memo, Shakir rejected that and said only Sanders could both beat Trump and reverse his actions in office.

“We’re not going to be afraid to call out parts of the establishment that think what we’re doing is too radical. We know that Donald Trump is not just an aberration — he is a logical conclusion of a corrupt political system that has left so many people so far behind,” said Shakir.

“If all we do in this moment is try to turn back the clock to a pre-Donald Trump time in Washington, D.C., we will have failed. That is simply not good enough. And we will make clear both during this campaign, and after we win during the fight to implement our agenda, that it is time for a new way of thinking,” he added.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donations-to-sanders-cut-in-half-after-biden-entry-begs-donors-to-dig-a-little-deeper/
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Donations to Sanders cut in half after Biden entry, asks donors to 'dig a little deeper' (Original Post) ehrnst May 2019 OP
"Dig a little deeper"? A plea of desperation. This "average contribution" idea is misleading.... George II May 2019 #1
Sounds like a slam against Biden... NurseJackie May 2019 #2
Sure does: George II May 2019 #3
I only support Democrats. Not socialists. I believe we can do better than that... NurseJackie May 2019 #4
A lot of people would be very happy to just turn back the clock pre-trump. Kahuna7 May 2019 #5
Yep. (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #13
Pre-Trump was Obama NYMinute May 2019 #15
Exactly. Some will nod their heads at first, then.. Kahuna7 May 2019 #16
It's offensive! He's slamming Obama (again) in some lame attempt to slam Biden... NurseJackie May 2019 #40
Indeed. (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #6
...and Obama... Drunken Irishman May 2019 #23
If I recall correctly, BS was calling for Obama to be primaried. Why would anyone want to weaken... NurseJackie May 2019 #24
Yes, BS did.. and we're not forgetting.. Cha May 2019 #41
The more you know... NurseJackie May 2019 #42
We have seen Peak Bernie riverine May 2019 #7
His support is cratering. His funding is starting to dry-up. NurseJackie May 2019 #8
He should just drop out nt NYMinute May 2019 #21
People are getting off his lawn. calguy May 2019 #27
That's a very clever and apt way of putting it. NurseJackie May 2019 #28
... ehrnst May 2019 #35
Interesting. I didn't get that one. I got a long email with strategy session outlined in Nanjeanne May 2019 #9
Did it mention the Nurses superpac? lapucelle May 2019 #17
Or Our Revolution or the LLC in Maryland, "Brand New Campaign" which has already been renamed.... George II May 2019 #19
and they share directors NYMinute May 2019 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author brandnewday2009 May 2019 #10
+1 R B Garr May 2019 #25
Yep Gothmog May 2019 #31
lol NYMinute May 2019 #11
Bazinga! George II May 2019 #18
When the hole is too deep for you to throw the dirt out - stop digging. MineralMan May 2019 #12
Not sure what you mean. (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #14
he means, if the fire is out, then the dinner was cooked a long time ago qazplm135 May 2019 #29
Are you saying that "people can't dig any deeper, so he shouldn't ask them?" ehrnst May 2019 #32
I was just making a joke qazplm135 May 2019 #33
Thank you. ehrnst May 2019 #34
kick for exposure NYMinute May 2019 #22
So far I've donated only to Biden and the ditch Mitch fund kimbutgar May 2019 #26
I gave a decent size donation to Biden on day 1 Gothmog May 2019 #30
Which is why there was a great frenzy . . . peggysue2 May 2019 #36
If they are worried that their average donation has fallen to $14, why are they asking for just $3? W_HAMILTON May 2019 #37
That would certainly drive down the amount of the average donation, and drive up the number of ehrnst May 2019 #38
Yes, but in their email,they are specifically complaining about how their average donation amount... W_HAMILTON May 2019 #39
Speculation - the staffer that wrote the email flunked math. nt NYMinute May 2019 #43
Bump $27 up to $35. nt Blue_true May 2019 #44
gawd! Cha May 2019 #45
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
1. "Dig a little deeper"? A plea of desperation. This "average contribution" idea is misleading....
Mon May 6, 2019, 09:49 AM
May 2019

....that's not the average PER contributor! For example, there's one contributor who has already maxed out at $2800, but he did it in 60 separate contributions. So, on the surface the "average contribution" is $46, but in fact that person is the dreaded BIG DONOR!

There's also a contributor who has made 129 separate contributions keeping her "average contribution" only $4.94, another made 112 contributions "averaging" a mere $1.10. The more these multiples of tiny contributions are made, the lower the "average"!

That's how they keep the "average contribution" down.

And people fall for this.

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
2. Sounds like a slam against Biden...
Mon May 6, 2019, 09:49 AM
May 2019
“If all we do in this moment is try to turn back the clock to a pre-Donald Trump time in Washington, D.C., we will have failed. That is simply not good enough. And we will make clear both during this campaign, and after we win during the fight to implement our agenda, that it is time for a new way of thinking,” he added.
Sounds like a slam against Biden, in my opinion. Charming.
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George II

(67,782 posts)
3. Sure does:
Mon May 6, 2019, 09:54 AM
May 2019

“If all we do in this moment is try to turn back the clock to a pre-Donald Trump time in Washington, D.C., we will have failed."

That "new way of thinking" is going back to the '60s.

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
4. I only support Democrats. Not socialists. I believe we can do better than that...
Mon May 6, 2019, 09:59 AM
May 2019

I only support Democrats. Not socialists. I believe we can do better than that, and we have so many candidates who are much more qualified.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
5. A lot of people would be very happy to just turn back the clock pre-trump.
Mon May 6, 2019, 10:02 AM
May 2019
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NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
15. Pre-Trump was Obama
Mon May 6, 2019, 11:00 AM
May 2019

Why would Bernie slam Obama-Biden years?

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Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
16. Exactly. Some will nod their heads at first, then..
Mon May 6, 2019, 11:11 AM
May 2019

think about it for a minute, and think...Yes God, please! Can we have some of that?

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
40. It's offensive! He's slamming Obama (again) in some lame attempt to slam Biden...
Mon May 6, 2019, 05:49 PM
May 2019

It's offensive! He's slamming Obama (again) in some lame attempt to slam Biden. And in the end it's yet another smear of the Obama years AND the Democratic party.

What good purpose does that serve?

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Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
23. ...and Obama...
Mon May 6, 2019, 12:58 PM
May 2019

You know, the most successful progressive president we've had since FDR.

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
24. If I recall correctly, BS was calling for Obama to be primaried. Why would anyone want to weaken...
Mon May 6, 2019, 01:13 PM
May 2019

If I recall correctly, BS was calling for Obama to be primaried. Why would anyone want to weaken and diminish his 2nd term by doing that? What good purpose would it serve? Why not spend all that energy (negativity) trying to weaken and divide and defeat the GOP?

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Cha

(296,867 posts)
41. Yes, BS did.. and we're not forgetting..
Mon May 6, 2019, 08:39 PM
May 2019
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
42. The more you know...
Mon May 6, 2019, 08:51 PM
May 2019
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riverine

(516 posts)
7. We have seen Peak Bernie
Mon May 6, 2019, 10:16 AM
May 2019

it is all downhill from here for him.

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
8. His support is cratering. His funding is starting to dry-up.
Mon May 6, 2019, 10:24 AM
May 2019
it is all downhill from here for him.
His support is cratering. His funding is starting to dry-up. It's my belief that he should go ahead and withdraw now and focus on trying to do positive things in the Senate. We have better choices and candidates who are much more qualified and well-suited to become our nation's president and Leader of the Free World. He simply lacks the demeanor (not to mention lacking real-world plans for accomplishing his pie-in-the-sky promises). I mean, lookit, anyone can give a laundry list of problems (even I can do that) but it take true leadership and true vision (and a willingness to compromise) to come up with a realistic plan to accomplish goals and solve problems. It's not like the potus can just wave a wand with rainbow sparkles and everything is fixed. We need real-world solutions, and I think people are starting to understand that BS just isn't the candidate who can deliver what America needs.
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NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
21. He should just drop out nt
Mon May 6, 2019, 12:10 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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calguy

(5,294 posts)
27. People are getting off his lawn.
Mon May 6, 2019, 01:30 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
28. That's a very clever and apt way of putting it.
Mon May 6, 2019, 01:32 PM
May 2019


If I were to vote in a presidential
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Nanjeanne

(4,915 posts)
9. Interesting. I didn't get that one. I got a long email with strategy session outlined in
Mon May 6, 2019, 10:27 AM
May 2019

a lot of detail from Shakir.

I also got one from Bernie about SuperPacs.

But not the one above. There must be very targeted emails.

In any case, I donated again.

I also got three from Warren’s campaign asking for money to keep her fighting. Gave to her as well.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

lapucelle

(18,187 posts)
17. Did it mention the Nurses superpac?
Mon May 6, 2019, 11:12 AM
May 2019
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George II

(67,782 posts)
19. Or Our Revolution or the LLC in Maryland, "Brand New Campaign" which has already been renamed....
Mon May 6, 2019, 11:52 AM
May 2019

...."Brand New Congress LLC"?

It's tough to keep up with all these intertwined groups.

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NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
20. and they share directors
Mon May 6, 2019, 12:09 PM
May 2019

which shows that they are all one and the same.

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MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
12. When the hole is too deep for you to throw the dirt out - stop digging.
Mon May 6, 2019, 10:45 AM
May 2019
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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
14. Not sure what you mean. (nt)
Mon May 6, 2019, 10:50 AM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
29. he means, if the fire is out, then the dinner was cooked a long time ago
Mon May 6, 2019, 01:36 PM
May 2019

I mean I don't know how else to make it clearer!

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Undecided
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
32. Are you saying that "people can't dig any deeper, so he shouldn't ask them?"
Mon May 6, 2019, 01:51 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
33. I was just making a joke
Mon May 6, 2019, 01:57 PM
May 2019

about the difficulties of understanding aphorisms

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
34. Thank you.
Mon May 6, 2019, 01:59 PM
May 2019

I see so much pretzel logic and circular arguments at times here that I missed the joke about it.

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kimbutgar

(21,056 posts)
26. So far I've donated only to Biden and the ditch Mitch fund
Mon May 6, 2019, 01:22 PM
May 2019

I just don’t see sanders as viable against the orange anus.

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Gothmog

(144,939 posts)
30. I gave a decent size donation to Biden on day 1
Mon May 6, 2019, 01:41 PM
May 2019

I have also contributed to Beto, Castro and Warren (my middle child asked me to do so).

If I were to vote in a presidential
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peggysue2

(10,823 posts)
36. Which is why there was a great frenzy . . .
Mon May 6, 2019, 02:34 PM
May 2019

BEFORE Joe Biden officially entered the race, the whole touchy-feely brouhaha, the 'but joe has all this baggage from 20, 30 years ago.'

And you know what? Voters do not care about the dredging up of old news. They care about kicking Trump and his enablers to the curb and think Joe Biden has the best shot to do that. Because getting 30% of the vote and hoping for a brokered convention is a losing strategy, Senator Sanders. And the word 'socialism' still carries a taint in the US whether you like it or not. Which is exactly why Nancy Pelosi has warned us: support the center left mainstream for the win.

A GO4JOE/2020

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W_HAMILTON

(7,835 posts)
37. If they are worried that their average donation has fallen to $14, why are they asking for just $3?
Mon May 6, 2019, 04:17 PM
May 2019
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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
38. That would certainly drive down the amount of the average donation, and drive up the number of
Mon May 6, 2019, 05:20 PM
May 2019

individual donations that could be reported in press releases.

It's a status quo fundraising tactic by politicians. Certainly not revolutionary.

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W_HAMILTON

(7,835 posts)
39. Yes, but in their email,they are specifically complaining about how their average donation amount...
Mon May 6, 2019, 05:44 PM
May 2019

...has fallen, therefore, why would they be asking for a donation amount that would cause it to fall even further?

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NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
43. Speculation - the staffer that wrote the email flunked math. nt
Mon May 6, 2019, 09:37 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
44. Bump $27 up to $35. nt
Mon May 6, 2019, 09:56 PM
May 2019
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