Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumHow Joe Biden could win the battle but lose the war to Trump in 2020
KEY POINTS:
* Cook Political Reports David Wasserman is challenging two broadly-accepted understandings about Joe Biden and the 2020 presidential race.
* That Bidens moderation muddies his chance to lead a left-leaning Democratic Party, while his broad acceptability and blue-collar appeal makes him the strongest Democrat against Donald Trump.
* But the opposite could be the case - circumstances make his chances of winning the nomination strong, but his age and moderate views could dampen voter enthusiasm in the general election.
* The Democrats best-equipped to beat Trump, Wasserman says, include a young gay man and a young black woman who make party traditionalists nervous.
In Sept. 2017, with many political analysts still preoccupied by President Donald Trumps blue-collar base, David Wasserman identified something else: the Democrats burgeoning white-collar base.
The Cook Political Report elections expert envisioned the looming 2018 campaign as the Year of the Angry White College Graduate. And thats precisely what the mid-term elections became, handing Democrats control of the House of Representatives.
Now Wasserman is challenging two broadly-accepted understandings of the 2020 presidential race: that Joe Bidens moderation muddies his chance to lead a left-leaning Democratic Party, while his broad acceptability and blue-collar appeal makes him the strongest Democrat against Trump.
Both notions, he argues, have it backwards: the former Vice President holds a strong position for the nomination race, but less so for a general election. The Democrats best-equipped to beat Trump, he adds, include a young gay man and a young black woman who make party traditionalists nervous.
Bidens early polling surge has dented skepticism that he can win the Democratic nomination on his third try over three decades. But only slightly.
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The case extends to his age, currently 76, which would make him the oldest president to take the oath of office if he wins. Sen. Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota, gently drawing an age contrast with Biden, calls herself a candidate for our times.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/07/how-joe-biden-could-win-the-battle-but-lose-the-war-to-trump-in-2020.html
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)The Cook Political Report elections expert envisioned the looming 2018 campaign as the Year of the Angry White College Graduate. And thats precisely what the mid-term elections became, handing Democrats control of the House of Representatives.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
uawchild
(2,208 posts)lol Yeah, it's always about the white people this year, according to the pundits, eh?
Only white men approaching 80 years of age can save us, I know, its crazy making. -rolls eyes-
This assumption that the Democratic Party can't nominate a younger candidate, a person of color, and perhaps even, dare I say it... a WOMAN is ignoring whom the heart of our party actually is.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)"We know what's best for everyone (especially people who have always been underrepresented and youth)."
It baffles me that it all seems to be based on tradition -as if we have been operating with a fantastically successful strategy.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BlueTsunami2018
(3,492 posts)Because your priorities are garbage.
Seriously.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lkinwi
(1,477 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
obnoxiousdrunk
(2,910 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mobeau69
(11,144 posts)Motivation is born by the opponent; enthusiasm by the candidate. It's up to them.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)Whether it's Biden or someone else.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JI7
(89,249 posts)those types are also usually attention whores.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
tymorial
(3,433 posts)First of all no one is saying that they would not vote for buy them or Sanders in the general if they managed to win the nomination. Second, age is absolutely illegitimate issue and any claims other why is foolish. Age increases the likelihood of illness and or death. This is a fact and no amount of whining or stamping of feet is going to change this reality. Further it is also a reality that our country needs stability and it is less likely that we will have this with an older candidate that is approaching being octogenarian let alone becoming one in office.
You like Biden oh, you like Sanders that's great. There's no problem with people supporting their candidate of choice but pretending age isnt an issue is denialism. Accept the reality. People did not relish having an 80 year old in office in this crucial time.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mobeau69
(11,144 posts)but less so for a general election. The Democrats best-equipped to beat Trump, he adds, include a young gay man and a young black woman who make party traditionalists nervous."
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
uawchild
(2,208 posts)Last edited Tue May 7, 2019, 05:39 PM - Edit history (1)
Good point. People who say Kamala Harris or Pete Buttigieg can't win this time, I bet, I just bet, said the same thing about candidate Barack Obama.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
obnoxiousdrunk
(2,910 posts)Obama don't work. Obama was a once in a lifetime candidate.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)Some people feel Buttigieg is a once in a lifetime candidate, others say O'Rourke or Warren.
I know a lot of people felt that about Obama, but they couldn't know for sure until he won.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blue neen
(12,319 posts).
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
uawchild
(2,208 posts)lol I was actually trying to type: I am the typo king. lol
Good lord, I can't type.
Thanks for the correction.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)the party. He has worked hard on it. It's why he is not feared as an outsider and a lot of people like myself are excited about him. He is a coalition builder and party insider at a really young age. He is going to play a big role in the future of our party.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mobeau69
(11,144 posts)Good example of using faux praise to cloud what is really just bashing.
The "future" is now.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)Sorry thats how you see it.
The present is actually now
Go Mayor Pete!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MFM008
(19,808 posts)None of this poo pooing any of our candidates compared to the maggot.
Biden. Sanders
Harris. ANY ONE is a MILLION times
Better than the trash in the white house.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)Just like Meghan McCain loves to tell democrats what they need to do....
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)if you cannot get motivated for whomever is running against Trump in 2020 then you are worthless to me.
If it's Bernie, then even I am going to be all feeling the Bern because it's fucking Trump.
Period. Full stop.
So if your voter enthusiasm is "dampered" by Biden v Trump, then that's a "you" problem not a Biden (or Bernie or anyone else) problem.*
*Using the general term you.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
highplainsdem
(48,975 posts)Quoting from the article:
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,196 posts)is full of Shyte.
So who is the one going to win against trump in the GE according to Wasserman?!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,975 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,196 posts)he was talking about. Didn't know Stacy was in the race.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emulatorloo
(44,120 posts)At least for me, the more anti-Biden msm hitpieces and the more tweets from questionable Stein 2016 supporters I see, the higher Biden moves up on my list.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
highplainsdem
(48,975 posts)reply right above yours.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)Those who would constructt clever arguments to the contrary are engaged in political masturbation
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,191 posts)This same analysis applies to sanders
I still think that Biden/Harris ticket will win
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)and posting them here but it is not going to help Bernie Sanders -- strike that - I mean Cory Booker.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,196 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,196 posts)and fortune tellers abound.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden