Jill Biden Says 'It's Time To Move On' From Anita Hill Controversy

[mobeau69]

https://www.npr.org/2019/05/07/720696969/jill-biden-says-it-s-time-to-move-on-from-anita-hill-controversy

[marble falls]

1. Shocked he would say that. Extremely shocked.

[uawchild]

2. You mean SHE, shocked SHE would say that... its Jill Biden

I like Jill Biden, Joe Biden's wife.

Political wives have to stand by their man.

Don't be too harsh on her.

[marble falls]

3. Do you think HE disagrees????

[uawchild]

5. What do I think?

I think there are several aspects of his record that Biden and his supporters are running away from as fast as they can.

[LakeArenal]

10. Running? Don't think so.

I have said repeatedly that Dr Hill has all the right in the world to not accept his apology. Now we have the right to move on. No one is going to beg. Supporters don’t want him to beg. The only alternative is to move on.

[uawchild]

14. "The only alternative is to move on."

Only alternative for whom?

[LakeArenal]

27. For Joe and Jill.

If someone doesn’t accept your apology there is nothing to do but move on.

[uawchild]

31. Oh, ok.

I misunderstood what you were saying, I thought you were meant that other people should move on.

Thanks for clearing up my confusion.

[Demsrule86]

6. She Jill said it.

[mobeau69]

8. Jill said that, not Joe.

[WeekiWater]

4. The only people who don't, other than Hill herself,

Have a very shady agenda.

[mobeau69]

7. She's the only one allowed to feel that way.

[WeekiWater]

9. Others are free to act like they just can't move on.

[mobeau69]

18. What if it's not an "act"?

[WeekiWater]

20. I've already addressed that in this conversation. NT

[LakeArenal]

28. Yeah but they can't move on....

[Demsrule86]

34. It's an act...30 Years ago.

[uawchild]

12. nothing to see here

move along

[WeekiWater]

17. You seem to think people supporting Biden are scared of this.

Bring it on. The more it’s pushed the more Biden will be appreciated. It will have the exact same impact the great “touching scandal” had.

It’s the people using this as a campaign tactic that are left looking questionable.

[uawchild]

22. "It will have the exact same impact the great "touching scandal" had. "

What great "touching scandal"?

Did someone touch Joe? Is he ok?

[WeekiWater]

23. He is doing great.

Way ahead in the polls at this stage and the most vetted.

[LakeArenal]

29. Your journal shows you dislike Joe.

[uawchild]

32. No it shows I feel Joe is too old to be our best nominee

Joe is a likable man.

At 76 years of age , I just feel he AND 77 year old Bernie Sanders are both too old to best represent our party in 2020. I would like voters to get behind one of several excellent younger candidates. THAT is what my journal is about.

shrug

[LakeArenal]

36. It means any discussion of Joe with you is pointless.

So good evening.

[uawchild]

43. Cheers!

It's always good to discuss differences.

Take care.

[Cha]

62. You got that right!

[WeekiWater]

44. Wow. You ain't kidding. NT

[George II]

19. Yep, it's been in the background for decades, almost unmentioned during his entire....

....eight years as Vice President. Now he's a threat to some candidates and it's coming out again. As though he hasn't done anything or accomplished anything since 1991.

He's apologized a number of times in a number of ways, but it's just not "pure" enough for some.

[mobeau69]

24. Joe himself helped spark the recent focus on it with that phone call just weeks prior to his

announcement.

Not a wise move.

[LakeArenal]

38. So basically: Damned if he's silent and damned if he speaks

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

47. Ya, Joe opened that can of worms, so people should be free to factor into consideration

Joe's actions or inactions in connection with his treatment of Anita Hill.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[marylandblue]

33. It's the inherent problem of any long-time politician running for President.

Even though he may have been scrutinized before, running for President brings it all up again and increases the intensity. Get used to it. Every vote he ever cast since the day he entered the Senate is being reviewed and may be used against him at any time.

[Demsrule86]

35. But it is also helpful that people know Biden and the good he has done.

Despite the attacks, he leads by 30 or 40 points.

[marylandblue]

52. Yes, it's a double edged sword.

My personal view is that a long record hurts a candidate more than it helps, but we'll just have to see how it plays out for Biden.

[LakeArenal]

41. Get used to it. I'm sure Joe is.

And I can depend on you to make sure we do.

[marylandblue]

49. No you can't depend on me for that.

I've never brought up or made any negative comment about anything a candidate has done in the past and I never will. I've only commented on how the candidate and his or her supporters respond to negative information and on how I think it affects the candidate's chances.

In this particular case, I've simply pointed out that something that was also a problem for Hillary and Kerry will also be a problem for him. Hillary had it even worse, because she was also blamed for things Bill did.

[LakeArenal]

53. Okay. It won't matter

[comradebillyboy]

11. Andrea Mitchell jumped on the Anita Hill thing like a

dog on a bone this morning. I wonder how long she will push this issue.

[WeekiWater]

13. Andrea "But Her Emails" Mitchell?

She can promote the same RW talking point every single day.

[comradebillyboy]

16. Yeah that one.

[mobeau69]

15. These things don't just go away in a campaign.

Just like McConnell on the Senate floor today saying it's time to move on from the Mueller report. Sorry Turtle, that ain't happening.

[uawchild]

25. "The past is never dead. It's not even the past"

One of Faulkner's best-known lines.

[mobeau69]

30. Obama used it in A More Perfect Union

Obama invoked the history of racial inequality in the United States, first by paraphrasing a line by William Faulkner: "The past isn't dead and buried. In fact, it isn't even past.

[Demsrule86]

37. It won't matter.

[LakeArenal]

42. May I steal this response. It's the best one

[Autumn]

21. Sorry Jill. It's time to move on when Anita Hill says it's time to move on.

You don't get to decide that.

[LakeArenal]

45. Oh yes she does get to decide.

If Dr Hill decides not to move on,that’s her prerogative.

But she nor you get to decide for anyone else.

And always, the world moves on from everything.

[Autumn]

48. No she does not. She had nothing to do with it, her husband did.

As you said, just like we and Dr. Hill don't get to decide for anyone else, neither does Jill.

[LakeArenal]

51. I'm guessing Jill gets to decide when she moves on from anything.

The world moves on. You should try it.

[Autumn]

54. I've moved on, so should Jill and Biden supporters. Anita Hill hasn't and I'm fine with that. YMMV.

[LakeArenal]

57. Well we agree at last.

DrHill has every right to feel exactly as she does.

[Cha]

56. Exactly, Lake Arenal.. Jill Biden is deciding

for herself to move on.. she's not speaking for Anita Hill.

[LakeArenal]

59. 😉

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

50. You said it!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

26. Easy for Jill to say... I think Anita should get the last word.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Demsrule86]

39. A big who cares...Biden leads despite such attacks- Bernie for example by 30 or 40 points.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

46. Anita cares... I think she deserves a say. Not that it's fatal to Joe's campaign.

But, under the "Bernie Standard," it's definitely a FACTOR to be considered... that's all I'm sayin, which shouldn't be controversial.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[WeekiWater]

55. Who says she shouldn't have a say?

Is that a widespread thing? Sounds kind of like an “open borders” reply to me.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

60. Everyone saying it's time to move on without giving Anita her say...

At the very least, Joe should directly apologize to Anita for HIS actions or inactions - not for the way she was treated by OTHER Senators - before Jill, or anyone else, says it's time to move on.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[WeekiWater]

61. Anita hasn't had her say?

She doesn’t continue to have her say?

Now you are just making your own demands. Nothing to do with Anita Hill. The exact situation I reference above. I’m glad you were willing to go there that quick.

You have been posting here for a long time. Please show me one post of yours that references something Biden said or did while he was VP and and your recognition that you knew that was who he was because of Hill.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

63. Asked and answered... Anita hasn't finished having her say, NO, as she wants to have a conversation

that invokes REAL change and accountability to the way women like her have been treated. Anita deserves to have that conversation... until she and others have her say on that, it's not even close to being time to move on!! I stand with Anita!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[WeekiWater]

64. This backs up my whole argument.

Thank you for being so clear.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

65. Well, if your argument is that Anita should have her say before we move on, then I'm glad you agree.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[WeekiWater]

69. I don't need for her to have her say before...

Personally moving on from holding it against Biden. To do so and use her as a personal political tool would be to cheapen her.

You see, I actually support Hill speaking out. I’ve said so many times. I don’t support using her as a personal political tool. I appreciate the clear words you used. I appreciate the post of yours you highlighted from Bidens time as VP.

Great spot for this:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287109802

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

71. That's an understandable position to take... I'm also trying to be fair to everyone involved.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[BeckyDem]

40. His wife says its time to move on?

lol

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

67. Seriously!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[BeckyDem]

68. I have no idea what she is talking about, do you?

From the interview, Jill: And I think he was, you know, I think they came to an agreement.

What agreement???

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

70. IKR! Imagine if Jane Sanders said something similar about her husband...the outrage would never end!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Cha]

58. I think Jill Biden is right for her and Joe.. and

for those who Support Joe Biden.

I feel bad for Anita Hill but there's nothing to be gained by staying there.

[NYMinute]

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