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[emulatorloo]

1. Not interested in the opinions of LEE FANG or any other "journalists" from The Intercept

They burned a source, wrote thousands of words denying Russian Interference, and their figurehead just can’t get enough of ‘starring’ on Tucker Calson’s show on Fox.

I wouldn’t trust them if their word came notarized. The source is not credible nor trustworthy.

In fact I’ll donate money to any of the candidates that sordid crowd trashes.

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How The Intercept Outed Reality Winner
https://blog.erratasec.com/2017/06/how-intercept-outed-reality-winner.html#.XNLIdhpOmf0

[DownriverDem]

16. Attacking our own?

We are trying to get rid of trump. Attacking our own is not the way to do it. In politics, if a candidate goes negative that means they are losing.

[Gothmog]

29. Why does anyone pay any attention to Greenwald and the people at his publications?

[dsc]

2. It terms of the Ukraine

Biden's son was on the board of a company that is true. But the prosecutor that Biden wanted fired was actually protecting that company which is why the UK also wanted him fired. So Biden literally was lobbying the Ukraine to fire the person who protected his son's company from prosecution.

[emulatorloo]

3. Don't confuse Lee Fang with the facts.

He can’t smear Biden as “corrupt” if he uses facts.

Fang waged a dishonest war on HRC in 2016, seems to think he can use the same playbook on Biden. Too bad we’ve all caught on to the destructiveness and intellectual dishonesty of The Intercept.

[Cha]

5. Who's Lee Fang?

Mahalo, emulatorloo

[emulatorloo]

6. Journalist for Greenwald's The Intercept. Another one who wants do destroy Democrats

OP’s thread is about Lee Fang’s intellectually dishonest ‘startling revelations’ during an interview on a talk show.

[Cha]

8. Thank you.. I could

have googled him.. I was being lazy 'cause I'm about to sign off.

I saw the "Democracy Now" and I know they promoted Jill Stein.

Of course they're going after Joe.. but, I don't think they're helping their candidates.

[emulatorloo]

11. No, their candidate needs to do positive things and be Presidential to rise in the polls

Dishonest attacks by the twitterverse flying monkeys have made Kamala and Beto stronger candidates. I expect they’ll have the same effect on Biden.

[DownriverDem]

18. Perhaps we should ask

who is Bloom? I don't believe in attacking our own.

[Cha]

4. I'm not interested in anything

that Jill Stein promoter, democracy now, has to say about Joe Biden.

[WeekiWater]

7. The attacks on Biden by way of his son will backfire.

They are truly built on assumptions that require a Sean Hannity connect the dots graphic. The material of deceptive right wing extremists. Thankfully it doesn’t fit on a bumper sticker so it will only work on the hard core conspiracy theorists.

[Cha]

9. I think so, too.. they don't seem

to have a clue about the backfiring.

[emulatorloo]

12. p.s. if you believe posting this will help Elizabeth Warren in some way you are mistaken

Don’t tear down Elizabeth Warren by associating her with this. She’s a strong, serious candidate. She doesn’t need this kind of “help”

Write something positive about Warren, I would love to read that OP

[Cha]

13. +1!

[mcar]

14. Unrec

Intercept garbage.

[MineralMan]

15. When you bring things here from The Intercept or written

by Intercept writers, you show us a false perspective. We have experience with that organization, you know.

[Blue_Tires]

17. I'm not a Biden supporter, but seriously

Fuck Lee Fang and motherfuck Democracy Now... DN may have done some good things in the old days but they've lost the plot now. And Fang of course represents the Intercept which is Bernie's pro bono PR/oppo research firm

[emulatorloo]

21. Well said as always. I think Fang may imagine himself to be the left's version of Karl Rove

half-truths, lies, turn your opponents true strengths into liabilities.

Biden’s foreign policy credibility is a huge asset. Of all our candidates, he could step on the stage day 1 and repair our Trump-damaged relationships w our aliies.

So of course all the Rove wannabes are going to lie and try swiftboat Biden.

Fuck them. It will only make Biden stronger, as it did with Senator Harris and Senator O'Rourke.

[Cha]

24. +1! Exactly!

[George II]

19. DemocracyNow????

[NYMinute]

20. Greenwald's employee spewing smears liberally

and our own people assisting.

[bloom]

22. I agree the that Intercept has it's problems

I didn't know Fang was part of that.

But I am still happy to know factual problems that any of the candidates have - including this.

Several people attacked the source. But that is not the same as attacking the truth (or falseness of the claims).

Too many assume that Biden is the perfect choice.

I like to know all the baggage these folks are carrying.

[bloom]

23. And another thing....

How are we supposed to decide who would make the best president if you don't know the candidates' various negatives - along with the positives?

What would we know about Trump if we ignored his negatives? Nothing.

I, obviously, don't agree with just sharing the good things about the candidates.

I don't always agree with DemocracyNow! - and I recognize their biases. At least they weren't trumpeting Trump as other 'leftwing' sources were doing during the 2016 campaign.

I appreciate Naomi Klein (she associates with the Intercept and DemocracyNow!)

[crazytown]

25. How about some great things to know

VP Biden is a man of great decency, integrity, stability and kindness, and in this respect is a worthy successor to President Obama.

I’m am critical, very critica, l of the Bankruptcy Act. Senator Biden was representing his constituents but did not appreciate how it’s provisions would operate during a sharp recession.

It’s a measure of the sloppy journalism that Democracy Now got the date wrong . The Act was passed in 2005.

[crazytown]

31. I'm not excusing it

I wrote an OP on the subject.

“Amongst other things the Act locked students to their debt regardless of their economic circumstances, threw sick, unemployed and divorced women out of their homes, and, on the Fed’s analysis, contributed to the financial crisis”.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/128795124

[Gothmog]

28. This is so-called bogus scandal is being pushed by Rudy

In the real world, this s-called scandal is not being taken seriously
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/05/07/happy-hour-roundup/?utm_term=.521fc5c0b8b6

Stephanie Baker and Daryna Krasnolutska report that the big New York Times story alleging a potential Biden Ukrainian scandal may have been misleading in important ways:

President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer is raising the specter that Joe Biden intervened in Ukrainian politics to help his son’s business.

But if that was Biden’s aim, he was more than a year late, based on a timeline laid out by a former Ukrainian official and in Ukrainian documents.

The official described to Bloomberg details about the country’s political dynamic in the run-up to early 2016 when Biden, then the U.S. vice president, threatened to hold up U.S. funding to Ukraine unless it cracked down on corruption. Biden’s chief demand was the ouster of a top Ukrainian prosecutor who he said had been ineffective. The episode has come under the spotlight in the last week because at one point, that prosecutor had been investigating a natural gas company where Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, sat on the board and received substantial compensation.

There’s little question that the Bidens’ paths in Ukraine held the potential for conflict, and in a tweet last week, Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani said the U.S. should investigate the matter. But what has received less attention is that at the time Biden made his ultimatum, the probe into the company -- Burisma Holdings, owned by Mykola Zlochevsky -- had been long dormant, according to the former official, Vitaliy Kasko.

Who could have predicted that Giuliani wouldn’t have been a reliable source on a story like this?

[delisen]

30. Hiring of relatives legislators/presidents or granting of patents (Ivanka)

when you are negotiating for the US
is troubling whether done by Republicans or Democrats.

The best thing to do is be transparent.

A good. exercise is to imagine yourself the legislator or president and in Trump's case would you have taken your daughter on a trip to China while you were negotiating a deal for the US ad been comfortable with your daughter
engaging in business and being suddenly granted patents?

[marble falls]

32. Reads like shit stirring to me. Just saying.