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Peacetrain

(22,874 posts)
Fri May 10, 2019, 09:34 PM May 2019

Sal Rosselli.wanted Sanders to stay in the campaign even after Hillary locked

up the primary/caucuses..

https://www.bna.com/labor-supporters-sanders-n57982073955/


who is Sal Rosselli? he is the President of the union that had 12 people picket Biden...

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Sal Rosselli.wanted Sanders to stay in the campaign even after Hillary locked (Original Post) Peacetrain May 2019 OP
"Picket" NT WeekiWater May 2019 #1
I hear that.. I believe in having passion for a candidate.. but this is over the top Peacetrain May 2019 #2
From top to bottom they are going scorched earth. WeekiWater May 2019 #3
The pattern seems to be repeating from 2 years ago... Peacetrain May 2019 #4
Interesting peggysue2 May 2019 #5
Well, well. Thanks for exposing this publicity stunt R B Garr May 2019 #6
Yes, "unbelievable" until Cha May 2019 #7
Leader ship going rogue, betraying Hortensis May 2019 #21
Excellent analysis, and this is exactly right. There is a history with them that is not R B Garr May 2019 #23
Very interesting. I hadn't read that, Hortensis May 2019 #25
Ah, thanks for the heads up about the Time magazine articles. R B Garr May 2019 #27
They discuss and/or at least touch on them. Hortensis May 2019 #28
Mahalo, Peacetrain! Cha May 2019 #8
Jesus. NurseJackie May 2019 #9
We are known by the company we keep . . . NBachers May 2019 #10
Surprise surprise billpolonsky May 2019 #12
Oh, man, I missed it. Anyone know what it said? NBachers May 2019 #15
I'm tired. I am so so tired. EveHammond13 May 2019 #11
This needs a Cha May 2019 #13
K & R... revmclaren May 2019 #14
... Scurrilous May 2019 #16
So this was a Bernie bro ratfuck? Baclava May 2019 #17
You put it very succinctly in your subject line nt LibFarmer May 2019 #20
She didn't lock until California, and the final Eric J in MN May 2019 #18
She officially locked it up on June 7; Sanders conceded July 12: ucrdem May 2019 #30
It was not a picket .. it was a stunt nt NYMinute May 2019 #19
Reporters need to ask Rosselli how he feels about Charles Rocha working for Sanders advisor LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #22
Yeah, Sal.. what's your take on Cha May 2019 #24
They could have at least thrown dollars. lapucelle May 2019 #26
+1 betsuni May 2019 #29
 

Peacetrain

(22,874 posts)
2. I hear that.. I believe in having passion for a candidate.. but this is over the top
Fri May 10, 2019, 09:42 PM
May 2019

it does no one any good

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WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
3. From top to bottom they are going scorched earth.
Fri May 10, 2019, 09:44 PM
May 2019

I don’t see how anyone can question that at this point.

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Peacetrain

(22,874 posts)
4. The pattern seems to be repeating from 2 years ago...
Fri May 10, 2019, 09:47 PM
May 2019

but I do not think it has the same strength this time.. the one solid to the bone Bernie Sanders supporter I know from 2016 no longer supports him.. for a variety of reasons

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peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
5. Interesting
Fri May 10, 2019, 10:00 PM
May 2019

The original report sounded fishy, a little too convenient. So, now we know for sure.

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R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
6. Well, well. Thanks for exposing this publicity stunt
Fri May 10, 2019, 10:12 PM
May 2019

by the union president. Unbelievable.

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Cha

(297,103 posts)
7. Yes, "unbelievable" until
Fri May 10, 2019, 10:17 PM
May 2019

I consider the source.

Shining the Light

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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
21. Leader ship going rogue, betraying
Sat May 11, 2019, 09:22 AM
May 2019

the duty to represent the membership. We may see more of this pattern as Sanders’ actual approval is seen to have tanked.

The national nurses united union is led by a small clique of radical activists who are longtime supporters of Sanders himself and play dirty politics on his behalf. They are even opposing the Democratic Party’s plans to improve the ACA for political reasons. Somehow I doubt they represent the over 150,000 nurse members, by far most of whom are more devoted to patient care than being part of a socialist revolution.

Best to keep these in mind and wonder in case leaders of any other unions endorse Sanders.

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R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
23. Excellent analysis, and this is exactly right. There is a history with them that is not
Sat May 11, 2019, 06:25 PM
May 2019

totally above board. I recall they tried to get a congressman recalled and it was for completely bogus reasons. They submitted a wish list for M4All that didn't address the costs, and then tried to recall the politician who had to reject their proposal for their failure to include costs. Very dirty stuff and totally bogus complaints about "establishment". Thanks for illustrating this further. I recall reading many informed comments about them after articles in the L.A. area and California papers, and people were very aware of their dirty tactics.

edit to add:
https://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-recall-campaign-against-assembly-speaker-1518556675-htmlstory.html

"A grassroots effort to recall Assembly Speaker Anthony Rendon over his decision last year to shelve a single-payer healthcare measure has sputtered, according to organizers."

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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
25. Very interesting. I hadn't read that,
Sat May 11, 2019, 08:19 PM
May 2019

but it’s certainly in line with behaviors I have read about. One of the activists was head of the 90,000 member California nurses union that joined with the others to form the NNU.

Time magazine had a whole series of articles about them and their relationship with Sanders in 2016.

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R B Garr

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27. Ah, thanks for the heads up about the Time magazine articles.
Sat May 11, 2019, 08:55 PM
May 2019


I'll try and check them out. I want to know all their names and what they are up to.
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Hortensis

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28. They discuss and/or at least touch on them.
Sun May 12, 2019, 04:48 AM
May 2019

This time I notice, close as they've been to him in the past, they're claiming not to endorse anyone yet. May have gotten burned by a little too much spotlight in 2016.

For 2020 the NNU has issued a statement on their endorsement process -- including of course assessment of membership preferences -- and their intent to create a mass movement on critical issues. They're redoubtable activists with overall admirable goals if pursued honorably with good judgement and principles, but that's the quickly identifiable problem on closer look at them.

https://www.nationalnursesunited.org/nnu-statement-2020-election-process

Sanders' choice to join with the hostile power of the right to make repeal (plus eventual replacement) of the ACA, instead of continued expansion and evolution, centerpiece of a presidential campaign in 2015 has never been properly examined under that spotlight. If MfA were socialized, that would provide a reason. But it's not, it's a variation on the same economic model as the ACA.

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Cha

(297,103 posts)
8. Mahalo, Peacetrain!
Fri May 10, 2019, 10:19 PM
May 2019

Looks like Sal doesn't really care about Democracy winning.

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
9. Jesus.
Fri May 10, 2019, 10:21 PM
May 2019

This needs to end.

(Thanks for the post.)

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NBachers

(17,098 posts)
10. We are known by the company we keep . . .
Fri May 10, 2019, 10:52 PM
May 2019
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billpolonsky

(270 posts)
12. Surprise surprise
Fri May 10, 2019, 11:51 PM
May 2019
For a Union Man, Joe Biden Sure Has a Lot of Big Donors Who Aren’t Fond of Labor

"When he’s not doing campaign rallies, though, Biden has been doing some other stuff, like holding his first fundraiser at a mansion owned by the Comcast executive who supervises lobbying operations for the giant telecom company. Comcast’s lobbying division, in turn, works with the hugely influential American Legislative Exchange Council, which writes right-wing legislation—including “right to work,” “stand your ground” and voter-ID laws—on behalf of Republican state legislators. A canned quote from the Comcast exec who hosted Biden’s fundraiser actually shows up in a press release on ALEC’s website, while the New York Times recently wrote that Comcast’s relationship with organized labor “is often strained” and said it has “largely managed to fend off efforts by groups like the Communications Workers of America to organize its employees.”"




[link:https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/05/joe-biden-unions-management-fundraising.html|
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NBachers

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15. Oh, man, I missed it. Anyone know what it said?
Sat May 11, 2019, 02:34 AM
May 2019
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EveHammond13

(2,855 posts)
11. I'm tired. I am so so tired.
Fri May 10, 2019, 11:21 PM
May 2019
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revmclaren

(2,511 posts)
14. K & R...
Sat May 11, 2019, 12:40 AM
May 2019
ONLY!!! 2019 and beyond.
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Baclava

(12,047 posts)
17. So this was a Bernie bro ratfuck?
Sat May 11, 2019, 07:33 AM
May 2019

“I’m confident that Bernie is going to do all he can to unite the Democratic party and defeat Donald Trump,” National Union of Healthcare Workers President Sal Rosselli

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LibFarmer

(772 posts)
20. You put it very succinctly in your subject line nt
Sat May 11, 2019, 09:02 AM
May 2019
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Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
18. She didn't lock until California, and the final
Sat May 11, 2019, 08:09 AM
May 2019

..primary was in DC a week later.

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NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
19. It was not a picket .. it was a stunt nt
Sat May 11, 2019, 09:00 AM
May 2019
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LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
22. Reporters need to ask Rosselli how he feels about Charles Rocha working for Sanders advisor
Sat May 11, 2019, 01:24 PM
May 2019

Sanders hired a guy convicted of ripping off unions; one would think that Sal would have a problem with that.

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Cha

(297,103 posts)
24. Yeah, Sal.. what's your take on
Sat May 11, 2019, 07:43 PM
May 2019

convicted embezzler of union funds, Charles Rocha, being a BS hire?

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lapucelle

(18,238 posts)
26. They could have at least thrown dollars.
Sat May 11, 2019, 08:23 PM
May 2019

It was only twelve bucks...

Have a donut. Sal!

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